QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 4 2017, 01:25 PM)
Malaysian bond funds are not as stable as Affin Hwang Select Bond fund (evidence from the Nov sell-off)
Any single-country fund would be more volatile than a multi-country fund.FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Feb 7 2017, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 7 2017, 11:07 AM) This people ar.... keep thinking about the 2007 crash lar, 1997 crash lar.... Cool but people should stop saying that FD < inflation. FD is only < inflation is you aren't really smart.Forgetting that these things happen so infrequently. So between those times, whatcha gonna do? Put in FD and tunggu like a dungu? FD returns like 3.XX% p.a. and we all can agree that FD is < inflation. OK lar, lets say the market drop like 30% during these times... and you very cleaver - clever buy at the lowest price. But if you DCA regularly in those ten years time, the compounding could be more.... I will do on to Excel it to find out. Xuzen |
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Feb 7 2017, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 7 2017, 11:15 AM) That's why I said.. if you are smart, your nasi lemak is really cheap This post has been edited by wodenus: Feb 7 2017, 11:18 AM |
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 7 2017, 12:00 PM) FD is a short term parking place. For short term tactical reason is ok lar. If for long term as a wealth preserver, FD suxs big time! http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/inflation-cpi Inflation has gone up a lot This post has been edited by wodenus: Feb 7 2017, 02:00 PM |
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Feb 7 2017, 03:40 PM
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Feb 7 2017, 08:50 PM
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Feb 7 2017, 09:01 PM
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Feb 7 2017, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 7 2017, 09:58 PM) Since I already have the data I can share these two tables here to show how well some of the funds I own have performed since I got them. One is a day to day performance, the other is the cumulative fund performance. It's very clear that Asian funds have been the best performing ones. Should include the 2% commission perhaps.. then you can get a truer picture? also you want to add those figures up and see how you are doing overall.. and yes traditionally developing countries usually do better than developed ones.![]() ![]() This post has been edited by wodenus: Feb 7 2017, 10:10 PM |
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Feb 8 2017, 11:20 AM
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Feb 8 2017, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 8 2017, 11:39 AM) Another question. I have rhb bond fund and it says min initial investment rm 1k and min holdin 100 unit. So if I invest then take out my investment left 100 unit but lower than initial investment is ok right? Yes should be ok. But after that you can't take out any more. |
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Feb 8 2017, 05:13 PM) So anyone want to talk about the funds for "high net worth" investors? I have an invitation to a luncheon in which they are promoting AFFIN HWANG ABSOLUTE RETURN FUND II. The returns for it look crazy. 18.49 annualized return over the past 5 years. Do you want to have that much in one fund? still it is a free lunch |
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 8 2017, 05:51 PM) actually are HNW funds better at performing than the regular funds? Not all of them.. they take on a lot more risk though, because investors can afford it i mean if I have 100k would it be better to break it up into a portfolio rather than lump sum into one particular fund? sad that I'm born poor. I have to start building my assets from the ground up. They are shorting EM and US, buying China and Malaysia. This post has been edited by wodenus: Feb 8 2017, 06:03 PM |
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 8 2017, 06:45 PM) Don't. let your daughter pick what she wants. also if I had a chance to turn back time I would have picked to be a Vet. I am beginning to hate people. they are the worst patients to have. Well they are sick and uncomfortable.. so I guess that's pretty par for the course |
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Feb 8 2017, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 8 2017, 07:54 PM) Come on man, most investors are institutional - mutual funds, index funds, pension funds, insurance/annuity funds, EPF schemes etc. We will turn into Singapore then, and may have to do what Singapore does. But here's hoping.. Retail investors are dwindling. But individuals do impact the stock market - tomorrow 1 million people withdraw their EPF savings mean, gone lah the Malaysian stock market. Also, EPF doesn't actually have all the money to pay back its holders. Because stock price, if EPF sell all their stake in a single stock, it will be worth so little. So EPF survives because it keeps getting younger people to contribute. If one day old>young, EPF will fail. |
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Feb 9 2017, 08:48 AM) Since you seem to understand their strategy, do you know if this counts as a hedge fund? I always read that hedge funds on average underperform due to their high costs but the stated returns on the one FSM is promoting is very tempting and I keep asking myself what is the catch. Whether or not it's a hedge fund is a matter of semantics. They have performance incentives, so it's not a hedge fund according to US law. They are a sort of mutual fund/hedge fund hybrid. They are betting big that Trump will kill the US economy, and EM will be affected the most by his policies. Also, I feel very silly about buying big into a new fund just after announcing here that I think there might be a big crisis this year and that I'm divesting some investments. Then again, I suppose that if anyone can properly take advantage of a crisis, it would be a hedge fund. They stand to make a lot of money if they are right. It's a fairly valid strategy, the large buy-in and minimum reduces churn so it's probably a lot less volatile. If you think there's going to be a crisis, you're probably going to be in that fund, because as it stands, they are going to profit big time if the global economy crashes these next few years. If not.. you're going to be in for a long time, and hoping they don't fold in the meantime Of course, I'm only looking at their monthly fund sheet so I wouldn't know what they're planning next month or the month after that, but as of last month they are betting on Trump to cause a downturn and take the EMs with them. The catch it that it's pretty expensive.. 2% of Rm100,000 is someone's monthly salary This post has been edited by wodenus: Feb 9 2017, 10:58 AM |
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