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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Jan 4 2017, 07:50 PM

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Just browse through Malaysia funds, see that Eastspring investment Equity Income Fund, which has very similar performance trend with KLCI

Wanted to know anyone invest in this fund and comments?

Also seeing that this fund and eastspring investment my focus fund are both Malaysia general equity fund

JUST that the former is equity income and equity captial growth, what are thebdifference between this two and how much they differ in the kind of stock selection?

Thinking to only keep one Malaysia fund, should I keep kgf or kapchai? innocent.gif
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post Jan 5 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(iampokemon @ Jan 5 2017, 11:31 AM)
Let's say there is a global economy downturn next month. Which funds would be safe from it or at least has the most minimal impact from the economic downturn?

Any recommendation?
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the recommended approach for this kind of situation is to diversify your investment globally or across different region

this will reduce your risk in a specific region downturn that severely impact your performance

IMO, aberdeen islamic world equity fund is the better global diversified fund that diversify across region more equally rather than most global funds which have at least 50% in US smile.gif

This post has been edited by AIYH: Jan 5 2017, 11:41 AM
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post Jan 5 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 5 2017, 01:52 PM)
Sorry to ask this question:

May I know why Affin Hwang Select Income Fund service charge is 1% instead of 2%?

This could be asked by others before I think but my memory is poor.
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Mixed asset class SC I suppose (although there are only 2 mixed asset fund tongue.gif)
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post Jan 5 2017, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 5 2017, 02:54 PM)
Affin Hwang also charges 3% instead of usual 5.5% for Affin Hwang Select Income Fund
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Affin Hwang Select Income Fund usual SC is 3% as per their PHS hmm.gif

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...anceMYHWSIF.pdf
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post Jan 5 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 5 2017, 03:17 PM)
So it appears to me that this SC of 1% is its normal SC, meaning if one purchases it, he can get additional discount based on his reward tier. It isn't a promo SC.
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But I remember last month when FSM reintroduce this fund along with esther bond, they were all in 0% SC because in FSM, all of them were fixed income fund hmm.gif

Apparently FSM had reclassified esther income to mixed asset and charged 1% SC laugh.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 07:49 AM

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Wanted to ask, had anyone received the esther bond distribution?
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post Jan 6 2017, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 6 2017, 07:58 AM)
sorry, I got no idea which fund you are referring to....
I just simply "tembak"...
I got my Affin hwang select Bond fund distribution data already....
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When did you get the distribution?

Am still waiting for the extra units, without them it distorts the FSM performance table which is a bit annoying sweat.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 6 2017, 08:18 AM)
I think I remember yklooi said he bought that AFSBF directly from AH, not thru FSM
thus he maybe able to view the data from I-access.

your FSM funds holding page have not displays the updated data yet?
the X-date of that distribution is very long time already....19 Dec
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FSM, yes, x date 12/12, reinvestment 21/12, yet one year gone still havent receive distribution laugh.gif

QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 6 2017, 08:29 AM)
Not yet, Kenanga usually even slower than FSM  tongue.gif
Interestingly Ponzi 1.0 was updated since last week

Anyway, FSM's performance chart is adjusted for distributions very quickly. Just that individual holders' distribution not updated yet until you receive the email on distribution. You can manually calculate the distribution and include in your own spreadsheet. But I don't bother la
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Thats why I ask, ponzi 1 received, why esther bond take longer tongue.gif

Very lazy to recalculate tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Jan 6 2017, 09:25 AM)
This is the reply from FSM on Esther bond :

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But it was 3 weeks since then tongue.gif

Still awaiting tongue.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 6 2017, 09:33 AM)
oh yeah. shit. it's a participation event. fml. thanks David. I'll go back to the drawing board
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Hmm.. I see aminvest as one of the company in the participating booth section although not giving talk, shall see tmr how their promotion inclusion works then tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 6 2017, 08:25 PM)
hmm.gif instead of tomorrow.....wait till 14 Jan?
got another week to decide......
btw,...he who hesitate MAY or MAYBE NOT lost for now......it is for the whole year portfolio....

sweat.gif but looking at the chart.......FLAT for 9 mths??  devil.gif
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Flat for 9 months due to volatility, so best to counter is to DCA monthly across that period. smile.gif

Or, if you can predict, withdraw them first then later reinvest back? laugh.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 6 2017, 11:03 PM)
My only problem is RM25 switching fee. India is too volatile and will be a waste not to exit on a high.
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Not sure about your view since you already invested in dragon fund (cimb greater china)

But I neither invest that nor manulife india, so instead I invest in CIMB china india indonesia equity fund, 3 countries in 1 fund smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2017, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 7 2017, 12:14 AM)
Don't like the idea where they lump Indonesia which is a totally different demographic, culture, beliefs, government into three. honestly I put myself in the fund manager's shoe and it feels like it's neither here nor there but that's just me. i am an extremist. you can find me on other side of the spectrum but never in the middle.
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The 3 countries are distinctive enough that they are each to their own.

I investing that to diversify them at once instead of individually maintaining dragon fund and manulife india.

If i am not wrong, the indonesia portion in cimb cii feeds into cimb indonesia fund, so they let their local buddy to do the job as well (hopefully not a bad one tongue.gif)

Plus comparing CII with the other 3 individual countries fund, it seems to be less volatile and have better risk return ratio smile.gif

Thats just me though biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by AIYH: Jan 7 2017, 12:20 AM
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post Jan 7 2017, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 7 2017, 03:18 PM)
Fund NAV will raise if USD raised? or just mergely because of their higher/better income?
if aim exchange rate, rather buy/exchange more USD now, isn't?
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If funds are in foreign currecy, forex play a part in the fund performance, whether the performance is due to MYR strengthen/weaken against USD (mostly) you cna compare it against MYR/USD forex graph to observe, or simpler if the fund has USD class, just read their performance smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2017, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 7 2017, 03:44 PM)
My question is very simple. If what you say is true, we should have seen much better regional and global returns in the past 2 years since the MYR has depreciated by some 30%. However I am comparing the performance of these funds to their underlying funds and there doesn't seem to be any major deviation in performances. Why is that so?

Btw underlying fund for RHB US Focus Equity fund is the Schroder International Selection US Small and Mid Cap Fund.
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Forex risk is only part of the story.

There is also the movement in the funds, i.e. teh transaction of buy sell by the fund manager within the fund which consist of different timing of forex rate

Unless the fund doesnt involve buy sell for the entire period, chances that forex performance wont be a one to one comparison tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Jan 7 2017, 03:47 PM)
would you mind to tell under which fund house you managed to switch?
I tried to switch from affin hwang bond fund to affin hwang select asia (ex japan) quantum fund & rhb emerging bond fund to rhb gold & general fund, both prompted me 2% sales charge  sad.gif 
but when I tried to buy using FPX, the sales charge is 0.5% only for the above equity funds..
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If I am not mistaken, normally the promotional SC are not valid for switching sad.gif
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post Jan 7 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 7 2017, 03:50 PM)
I know that. Which is why i am taking about the underlying mother fund. The mother fund is not exposed to forex risk. It is denominated in USD and invests solely in the USA.
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Local fund manager may decide to increase or decrease the proportion of the target fund(USD) from/to liquid MYR cash, that buy and sell may also involve forex risk, which is not part of the buy sell in the mother fund
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post Jan 7 2017, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 7 2017, 03:54 PM)
I done two switch today, both also 2%.
was planned to switch next week but realise today got such promotion then I do it today,
Jimat 1.5%.
Had finished switching my 25 Funds into 18.LOL bye.gif
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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Jan 7 2017, 03:55 PM)
I see. Then I shall redeem my bond fund and have the proceeds in Cash Management Fund so that I could make purchases on 14/01/2017 with the 0.5% sales charge instead of today
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If you had planned earlier, may be you can use the infamous credit ninja trick biggrin.gif

Good to cut down high correlation fund within the same region/sector smile.gif

This post has been edited by AIYH: Jan 7 2017, 03:56 PM
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post Jan 7 2017, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Jan 7 2017, 05:58 PM)
thank you very much. I tried to switch from affin hwang bond fund to rhb gold & general instead of affin hwang select asia (ex japan) quantum fund, it is 0.5%.  thumbup.gif
For the credit system, I am facing some dilemma since I have fund from few fund house like RHB, CIMB-Principal, Eastspring Investments etc. If I were to purchase one bond fund under each fund house to park the proceeds from the fund which I lock the profit to earn credit points, then I would have many bond funds. I need to do initial investment for bond fund first, as the profit that I usually lock (usually lock 10% of profit, so for RM 3000 invested, profit is RM300) is insufficient to initiate an initial investment for bond fund. Therefore, I resulted to park the proceeds in CMF.

And assuming I initiate a purchase for bond fund and have the switching proceeds park into it, I earn 300 credit points. Later,  when I want to purchase a fund under a same fund house, the 300 credit points accumulated is not sufficient to meet the initial investment threshold again..So I have to repeat the steps like I did for bond fund, initiate an initial investment for the fund which I wish to purchase using the credit points earned (which is subject to sales charge), then only I could utilise the credit points for subsequent investment... On top of that, there is bond fund that has redemption fee if sell within 1 year of purchase such as RHB Bond Fund.. so make it less sensible to use the credit points knowing that I will be penalised an exit fee if I were to use it within 1 year for a purchase ...

However, gathering the proceeds from the funds I have under the few fund houses into CMF, I could easily accumulate sufficient fund to initiate a purchase and of course some little gain from CMF. Given sales charge is a concern, if I purchase when there is promotion like 0.5% sales charge, for every RM 1,000.00 I invest, the sales charge is only RM 5.27 including GST which is bearable.

My two cents. I still could not view how is the credit system beneficial to small investor like me.
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I understand your concern, I am also a small fry investor biggrin.gif

That is why I practice passive investing, select the better funds (performance and fundamental) and just let it go for some time smile.gif

If you want to lock in profit just transfer into CMF smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2017, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 8 2017, 12:17 AM)
if you mean most diversified in terms of the number of countries it invested in?....
then this is better 21 Vs 12
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Personally, I think the problem with EI GEM is that its greater china portion took up too much (40%) given that it was suppose to cover emerging market across the globe.

Unlike Ponzi 2.0 which stay quite diversified within the asia pacific ex japan spectrum

Same with EI Global Leader (50% US) even though it suppose to cover globally (I know US kinda affect everywhere in the world and the recent speculation in US does make it seems an advantage in having large portion in US, but still I think they should diversify more in allocation)

Unlike Aladdin fund which cover globally with more reasonable allocation

Thats just my opinion though smile.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 8 2017, 10:10 AM)
uhhhh nobody updated what transpired yesterday? who went?
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Kl lang here wait for 14th for event and promo tongue.gif

No penang lang went to yesterday's event?

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