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post Dec 23 2016, 07:40 AM, updated 9y ago

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Fundsupermart.com (FSM) Malaysia is the online unit trust distribution arm of iFAST Capital Sdn. Bhd. ("iFAST Capital").

iFAST Capital is a holder of a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) and is licensed by the Securities Commission to conduct the following regulated activities:

- To deal in unit trusts
- To offer investment advisory services
- To deal in Private Retirement Scheme

iFAST Capital is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FiMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Adviser (IUTA).

iFAST Capital is a subsidiary of iFAST Malaysia Sdn. Bhd., which is wholly owned by iFAST Corporation Ltd. ("iFAST Corporation"). iFAST Corporation is headquartered in Singapore and the iFAST group of companies are also present in Hong Kong, Malaysia and China. The company was incorporated in Singapore on 10 January 2000.

iFAST Corporation was listed on the Singapore Exchange Mainboard in December 2014.

iFAST Corporation, via its wholly owned subsidiary iFAST Financial Pte. Ltd., is Singapore's leading online distributor of unit trusts as well as the leading operator of an investment platform for financial advisers and financial institutions. It carries the Capital Markets Services (CMS) and Financial Adviser (FA) licences issued by the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), and is also one of three appointed Central Provident Board (CPF) Investment Administrators.

One of iFAST Corporation's shareholders is SPH AsiaOne Ltd, the Internet arm of Singapore Press Holdings, which is Singapore's largest media group. In recent years, iFAST Corporation has been expanding beyond local shores. In 2007, iFAST Corporation launched its first overseas business, Fundsupermart in Hong Kong and in 2008, it launched Fundsupermart in Malaysia. iFAST Corporation launched its office in China in 2014.

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1. Wide range of information
2. Extensive product range and value-added services
3. One of the cheapest Sales Charges in town! thumbup.gif
To keep discussions at this thread fruitful and constructive, it would be greatly appreciated that fellow investors try to look for answer to their queries at Frequently Asked Questions before posting here. icon_rolleyes.gif

And FSM has a very helpful LIVE Customer Service, MAKE FULL USE OF THEM. Look for this at FSM home page:
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What is unit trust?
Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia - ABC of Unit Trusts

Other FAQs on Fundsupermart.com and unit trust investing in general

1. NAV pricing and processing time
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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FSM Idea Of The Week: Unit Split and High Fund Price Misconceptions [24 October 2014]
3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions:

(i) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(ii) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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(iii) Topping up my holdings after dividend distribution pulls down my cost per unit, lower cost = higher profit.
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(iv) Distribution = Income

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4. Annual Management Charge, Trustee Fee and NAV pricing
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5. Return On Investment (ROI) vs Annualised Return, similar to Internal Rate of Return (IRR)
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Important link to v8 - The MS Excel Masterclass version!

Download here >>> Pinky's Portfolio Worksheet with IRR Calculation

Download here >>> polarzbearz's Portfolio Summary with Pinky's IRR Calculation (and here for Polarzbearz's FSM-to-Spreadsheet Conversion Tool)
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Make sure you read the instructions as many of the cells have formula in it. You can freely modify, update, or change it to suit your needs (and even share with others if you don't mind tongue.gif )

For Mac Users (credit to idyllrain):
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Performance data for most Malaysia funds (inclusive of non-FSM available funds like funds available in the respective insurance companies) (credit to dasecret) : iPortfolio

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Happy investing! rclxms.gif

Disclaimer -
I am not a UT agent, nor am I employed by FSM. All my comments here are posted in good faith and with the intention to share knowledge. I am not to be held liable for any losses that may be incurred as a result of following any advice/opinion shared here. I believe the same should be applicable for any other LYN members posting here.
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post Dec 23 2016, 07:46 AM

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Ponzi 1.0 ---> Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund

Ponzi 2.0 ---> CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund

Evergreen Fund / Lee Sook Yee   wub.gif  wub.gif  ---> Kenanga Growth Fund

Aladdin Fund ---> Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund

Kap Chai Fund  ---> Eastspring Investment Small-Cap Fund

Titanic Fund  ---> CIMB-Principle Global Titan Fund

Anitamui Fund ---> Libra Asnita Bond Fund

Esther Bond / Esther Teo   wub.gif  wub.gif  ---> Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund (MYR)

p/s: Reason for nickname Ponzi Because of its impressive return in short term (historical)

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post Dec 23 2016, 07:52 AM

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Continue from FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY
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post Dec 23 2016, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 23 2016, 09:10 AM)
well said. hence why active management is necessary.

Anyways good morning to all! I thought lowyat has already allowed us to have more than 3k replies in threads? they did an upgrading a few months back.
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Depends on individual and their target I suppose tongue.gif

Personally, I already have funds to cover most of the regions, so region wise, I am on the passive management side (will follow the ups and downs of the market in the region)

However, active management will be needed in comparing peers within the same umbrella of region/sector to get the better option within the group smile.gif
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post Dec 25 2016, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 25 2016, 02:57 AM)
Guys, another thing I want to ask about is, how come some of the funds appear to be using another fund as their basis?

Like the TA Global Technology Fund uses Henderson Horizon, and a number of RHB/CIMB regional/global funds use Shroder and Principal Global. So what's the purpose of these funds if they are effectively just using another fund? The only regional fund I can see that handles its own portfolio is the CIMB Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund.

Would like some explanation regarding this. Maybe I am misunderstanding it and the likes of RHB and CIMB still do play an active role in managing the funds even if they are using Shroder or Henderson Horizon or something else.
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If you noticed, most of these funds are investing in foreign areas such as debeloped market or emerging markets far far away tongue.gif

Probably they didn't have the expertise to self manage such funds but they wish to bring in such investment opportunities to local investors (assumed this kindness laugh.gif)

There are difference between single feeder fund and fund of funds, which you can refer to xuzen as below:

QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 13 2016, 10:07 AM)
On Europe exposed UTF,

Both TA & AM's European UTF suxs right now, with TA's suxs less than AM's.

Interestingly, TA adopt a fund-of-fund structure whereas AM uses a daughter-mother feeder structure.

Pros of fund - of - fund:

I) greater diversification than feeder structure
II) more active management, the local fund manager can pick and choose according to his expertise.

Cons of fund - of - fund

III) More expensive because you need to pay multiple parties management fees and this drives up Total fund expense.
IV) Actively managed = higher cost

Pros of feeder fund

V) Simpler arrangement, that is, by just piggy - back on an existing mutual fund
VI) No need to employ local fund manager. It is passive at the local side.
VII) Cost is lower

Cons of feeder fund

VIII) You better make darn sure the mother fund is performing, if it doesn't, the daughter fund will also "koyak" like the mother.

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post Dec 27 2016, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 27 2016, 09:32 PM)
I don't follow. Meaning if my transaction was transacted today...there is no price? They already pull out the money from my savings account this morning. Cause I bought the Global Titans on the 23rd (actually 24th early morning at midnight, which is Saturday).
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Based on your question asked here, I will suggest you read up FSM's FAQ if you are interested in their platform and wanting to know their process (do the same foe other platform as well)

For example:

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/0...ying-Funds-1605

Q: WHEN WILL I KNOW ABOUT THE PRICE I GET?

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Q: WHEN WILL MY BUY ORDERS BE COMPLETED?

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Q: WHEN WILL MY SELL ORDERS BE TRANSACTED?

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Q: HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO RECEIVE MY MONEY?

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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...g-of-Funds-8922

Q: HOW LONG WILL THE WHOLE INTRA SWITCH PROCESS TAKE?

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Q: HOW LONG WILL THE WHOLE INTER SWITCH PROCESS TAKE?

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Take some time to read the FAQ, grasp the basic terms and process gradually, you can also experience them by using small amount.

From there, you can gain more confidence on your understanding in the overall transaction and pricing process smile.gif
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post Dec 27 2016, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 27 2016, 10:49 PM)
At least my experience on M2U was buy Wednesday early morning and get on Thursday evening. So no idea why FSM taking four business days. Plus most funds priced at T+1 right? Like tomorrow they will publish today's prices. How is it T+2 as FSM claims?
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Because not all fund houses publish price at the same pace (kenanga EI and libra published price on second working day morning, hwang cimb and am published on second working day evening, aberdeen published price on third working day morning), so T+2 is about the maximum time for you to get to know a fund's transaction day NAV (T)

As long as you place the order and they received your money before working day 3pm, your transaction will be priced on the same day (T) as in the price you will be buying

For example, you buy KGF on today (27/12) 12pm, so once the respective fund house (kenanga) publish the price for 27/12, you will know what price you are buying into smile.gif

T +4 is just the time required for FSM to update your portfolio holdings with what you have bought, but info such as your transaction NAV price and unit bought will be known by T + 2

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post Dec 27 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 27 2016, 10:59 PM)
Kenanga and EI published the same day price in the evening wor. Unless I am missing something?

https://www.kenangainvestors.com.my/KIB/KIB...idual/Home.aspx
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You are talking about the price timing updated by the respective fund houses

I am talking about the price timing updated received by FSM or other agents

Yes, Kenanga and EI updated 27/12 NAV price on their website on 27/12 evening, but FSM will only update KGF price list on FSM page on 28/12 morning

Kenanga and EI update their price quite fast compared to normal timing like CIMB and hwang and to slow timing like aberdeen

So the T+2 is actually referring to the maximum time that you will take to know your transaction NAV and unit purchase if you buy from universal agent platform like FSM instead of buying via respective fund houses (which may be different depending on the respective fund houses practices)

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post Dec 28 2016, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 28 2016, 07:16 PM)
Wow guys. During the weekend I put in the buy orders on CIMB Clicks and a switch order on M2U.

And you know what? The switch has been completed (2 business days) on M2U but the buy order is still pending on CIMB Clicks.

So it's clear from this that at the very least M2U transacts and displays your portfolio holdings the fastest of all platforms in Malaysia. Two business days for Buying and Switching (maybe even Selling, who knows).
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I thought nornally switch order will be faster than buy order right? sweat.gif
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post Dec 28 2016, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 28 2016, 08:02 PM)
The guys above said switch is T+4 or something. Here everything A-Z completed in 2 days, so same with buy.
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Hmm.. for FSM, switch order will switch sell faster and switch buy another fund (different fund houses) in average T+6 whereas sequentially sell and then buy another fund requires T+8, so switch is faster than sell then buy

Intraswitch will normally be same T+4

If m2u can perform faster in the processing, congratz smile.gif

If you are kind enough, may be you can suggest this to them to alert them to improve their processing biggrin.gif to let FSM know her competitor can do things faster (may be different sales charge caused different processing time laugh.gif)
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post Dec 28 2016, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 28 2016, 08:13 PM)
NO THANKS. why should I pay more for a process that's so trivial to a long term investment? that's t+4 or t+2 when all you get is less than a percentage of movement? this ain't stocks everyone.
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I did not suggest to increase SC though tongue.gif

Just may be he can ask to understand why such a difference tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2016, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 28 2016, 10:27 PM)
doh.gif EI Global Leader MY still at 23 Dec Navs ...........
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Same for Aberdeen islamic world equity fund


Guess adele is right, foreign funds, especially global funds like these take times for all relevant region's stock market to close and count respective invested equities smile.gif
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post Dec 29 2016, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 29 2016, 12:17 PM)
I just stop cash DDI for my psscf (already invest for 3 years and still -ve from day 1 until today) and would like to invest on new fund. Any recommendation sifu?
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If you still believe in Malaysia, within the same category with psscf, suggest you to compare with its peers' performance via iportfolio and bloomberg.

Some of its' peers : Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund, RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust, CIMB-Principal Small Cap Fund, Kenanga Growth Opportunities Fund etc...

If you dont believe in Malaysia, suggest you to review FSM recommended fund/portfolio, or you can browse through this thread to find some forummers' portfolio construction as a starting point such as Avangelice

Note: Like esther bond and Ponzi 1.0, kap chai (Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund) is currently giving distribution, so there will be a temporary performance disruption in these days sweat.gif

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post Dec 29 2016, 02:42 PM

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I just asked FSM about the 0.5% SC

It turns out that regardless of your attendance to either event in penang or kl, as long as on 7th and 14th Jan 830 am to 6pm, you place your order and pay within the time frame, you are entitled the promo SC even if they only process it on next working day
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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Dec 29 2016, 02:57 PM)
Sorry din exactly get what u're saying.

U're saying 0.5% for
(a) Only event attendees? Or for all?
(b) Only for purchase submit on 7th and 14th?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 29 2016, 03:00 PM)
So I'm entitled to that discount if I'm not attending?
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For all purchases made on 7th and 14th between 830am to 6pm, every FSM investor (doesnt matter you attend the event or not) are entitled to the 0.5% SC

"You are encourage to attend the seminar" according to FSM biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 30 2016, 12:32 AM)
Guys, can someone tell me which fund site carries the "Advantage BRIC" fund (by AmInvestment Bhd)? I can't find it on FSM, CIMB_Clicks, nor M2U.
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If you can't find it in these platform, chances that they are not offering this fund to their clients

Note that not all platform will provide the funds from all fund houses, some funds may have exclusive deals.

QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 30 2016, 12:57 AM)
It's just a general question here. I'm sure some sifu know where to find it.
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If it's just a general question, I am pretty sure is not hard to google around and get the answer.

As always, there are a tons of information on each platform's plus google, it only takes about 5 minutes to simply google the fund name and search potential providers that provide the funds.

IF something is a general question, may be sifu here will let them find the answer their own if the answer is not hard to find around.

If is something very specific that no sifu know the answer, is time to do your part to contribute to this forum to let those in future who have similar question able to find that info too smile.gif

But if you prefer to be spoon feed, a simple google search suggest that this fund was offered by hsbc, if you are interested, may be give them a call to enquire more smile.gif

According to their latest annual report as of 31st July 2016 if you google about this fund, this is a feeder fund which the mother fund is HSBC Global Investment Funds - BRIC Equity.

YOu can read about the latest fund fact sheet about the mother fund HSBC Global Investment Funds - BRIC Equity FFS @ November 2016

There is also only 2 investors invested into AmAdvantage BRIC.

AmAdvantage Annual Report @ 31st July 2016

If you are really interested in this fund and you know what risk you are facing, you may consider go for its mother fund instead tongue.gif

QUOTE(tonytyk @ Dec 30 2016, 08:47 AM)
there is AmBRIC in https://www.eunittrust.com.my, not sure it is the same though
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Similar but not the same fund, 1 is Am BRIC Equity Fund, the other is AmAdvantage BRIC

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post Dec 30 2016, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 30 2016, 09:40 AM)
with eGIA has a potential to lose your investments and rates fluctuating every month.

sacrificing 0.3% for a stress-free sleep. that's a bargain!
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You do know CMF also has fluctuating interest right biggrin.gif

RHB Cash Management Fund 2 - Historical Net Interest Rate

It depends on what purpose it serves you la tongue.gif

Daily Liquidity - eGIA-I

Investment Liquidity - CMF

I feel like bring this up will caused another argument that we were caught on previously, so I will stop here laugh.gif
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 30 2016, 01:32 PM)
Now this is a helpful post. Yes from Bloomberg I knew it used the hsbc fund. But the rest of your info, google not give. You share it well.
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If you search the fund name as you intended to know for, and its mother fund, these information can be obtain with little effort smile.gif

Just gotta click a few times here and there tongue.gif

QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2016, 01:35 PM)
Well, I think Msia doesn't give much choices when it comes to BRIC, even FSM SG only has 2 funds on BRIC. I guess if you can stomach the risk you can go ahead with it
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To be fair, even FSM HK at most only offer 3 BRIC funds, and in USD terms, all of them are not impressive sad.gif

IF really want BRIC exposure, go directly to the HSBC mother fund will be better laugh.gif
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QUOTE(iampokemon @ Dec 30 2016, 04:51 PM)
actually how did u guys choose the correct fund to invest in? Just click on recommended unit trust and simply pick one over there?
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Define correct fund tongue.gif

You can start with recommended portfolio and funds, understand your risk apetite, explore more into the relevant funds with the articles and guidance in fsm smile.gif
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QUOTE(fense @ Dec 30 2016, 05:57 PM)
Anyone invested in PRS?
I want to ask about AMPRS. what is the different between Class I and Class D?
In fundsupermart only class D.
from PPA website, best perforamce for past one year is AMPRS Asia Pacific REITs Class I. more than 10 percent this year.

Mine was Affin Hwang PRS Growth, normal perforamce for pass 3 years, lesser than 6 persent

I am planning to Transfer IN all my affin Hwang into Fundsupermart. Clienthelp infrom it take 2 months to complete transfer. Anyone tried transferred before?
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Have you searched and read up on their product highlight sheet? AMPRS Asia Pacific REITs Product Highlight Sheet @ 7th October 2016


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