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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Dec 22 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(VinceCheong @ Dec 22 2016, 03:16 AM)
Actually, at what point in time do we start a whole new thread version? biggrin.gif
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Used to be 2500 posts but now it no longer need to observe such rules.
I would suggest a new thread for each calendar year.
If the thread is too active, can always break it down to two i.e. FD rates in Malaysia 2017 1H and FD rates in Malaysia 2017 2H.


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post Dec 30 2016, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 30 2016, 12:05 PM)
guys, I went buka one joint FD today and got the shock when the bank told me that even though the account is "either one to sign", both person must be present in order to withdraw that FD.

Doesnt makes sense to me at all. The bank says its a new BNM ruling. Anyone heard of this news?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 30 2016, 12:09 PM)
Ive tried before, they say I will lose the interest and I have to withdraw the day after the maturity date
Please try yourself and report back here
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I've never come across these issues.
Which bank you are having problem with ?

For either one to sign FD, what is your instruction on the interest and upon maturity ?
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post Dec 30 2016, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 30 2016, 04:59 PM)
I have this problem with Public Bank.....make me go 2 times to uplift  mad.gif  bruce.gif
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I have no problem uplifting FD on maturity date with PBB. You definitely can demand compensation for interest + traveling + time loss from the staff who misleaded you.

QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 30 2016, 07:39 PM)
I did "argue" but you must understand these are not the type of person you want to shout and argue with lol. I don't want to piss off anyone as I still want to go back to place more FDs
They explain that joint accounts either one can withdraw the interest only which again don't makes sense since I select auto renew with interest

Anyway I want to ask this - does all your FD receipts typed written there "either one to withdraw" ?
Long time ago it does but few years now it just have two names there and Not written anything
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The bank staff who explained to you is a new staff or experienced staff ?
You can request the bank to show you the operating mandate written on the application form executed by the both joint account holders when opening the FD account. Maybe the previous staff keyed in the operating mandate wrongly in the system.
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post Jan 3 2017, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Darren @ Jan 3 2017, 03:34 PM)
Well. I know what u mean.
But mbb can declare the fund not performing oso right?
Not necessary that mbb having financial problem.
Jz mbb use the fund money to invest on high risk investment.
Mean if the investment gone bad doesn't mean mbb having financial problem right?
Did mbb need to bear the responsible if the fund not performing/burn?

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I think you are right.
To regard investment risk in GIA is as sound as the entire Maybank group is technically incorrect.
One out of many financial products turn bad doesn't mean the whole Maybank will go down together, Maybank can still remain sound and strong financially.
Unless GIA is capital guaranteed by Maybank, only then we can say "GIA wouldn't fail unless Maybank go under"
I personally categorize GIA higher risk than FD, but I would still put some short term money in GIA because it offers competitive rates with high liquidity and no premature withdrawal penalty.

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post Feb 16 2017, 11:56 AM

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Want to withdraw my FD from Affin this morning but they counter offered me 4% 12mths. They have to call treasury for approval.
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post Feb 28 2017, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Feb 28 2017, 05:57 PM)
Hong Leong and Public Bank both pay. PB will pay out cash, HL bank into your SA. Still better mention it to them when uplift OTC. No experience with CIMB.  biggrin.gif
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CIMB automatically set FD maturity date fall on working day during FD placement.
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post Mar 7 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(c_subra @ Mar 7 2017, 05:06 PM)
Hi,
I have a question there is a investment plan from insurance co.
i.e. invest 3600.00 per year for 10 years,  and returns is 17% (612.00). This is guaranteed for 10 years.  the next 10 years, return is 33% (1188.00) per year.

End of 20th year the investment of 36000.00 returned.

Q: is this better than FD investment or I am missing something here?
Advice is appreciated.

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Assuming current FD rate say 4% pa. never change for 20years, at the end of 20 years, you will get yearly compounded interest + principle RM115,089.00
Now you compare with the investment plan, which one is better?
Write down your calculations.
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post Mar 20 2017, 04:42 PM

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Pbb latest step up FD promo. Effective from today.

2 steps. 3.99%.
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3 steps.
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Can withdraw without penalty upon completion of each step.
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post May 10 2017, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Darren @ May 9 2017, 07:51 PM)
got one staff from cimb call me
ask regarding the branch n the staff...
frankly say,i cant recall the staff name but i did tell them is cimb jinjang

then he say dunno who kinda hard to take action....
anyway,he call me back after he make a call to cimb jinjang
cimb jinjang branch manager told them that they got provide BSA as usual.....
what else to say?
dishonest n try to cheat customer la.....

the cimb staff ask me to go back the branch to close the saving account with annual fee.....the annual fee will be waive.....
then can open a BSA with them for the interest......
i wonder what will happen when i go back the next day for the BSA....lols.....sure alot black face....
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No sure Cimb staff gave you wrong info or you got the right info wrong.
The RM15.90 is the debit card annual fee, applicable to both BSA without annual fee and BSA with RM8.48 annual fee.
There are two types of fees. Basic Savings account RM8.48 annual fee and Debit card RM15.90 annual fee.
You open BSA without fee but you still have to pay debit card RM15.90 annual fee.
Cimb doesn't provide free debit card to all casa eventhough you opted for BSA without fee.
The only way to get truly free BSA from Cimb is to open BSA without fee account and ask the staff to disable the debit card feature, the debit card can only be used as ATM card though.



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post May 10 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ May 10 2017, 10:14 AM)
the debit card tagged to BSA (either type) will not be charged the annual fee, that is what I was told and so far I haven't been charged anything on the debit card.
perhaps other can confirm?
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I have a BSA without fee account + CIMB master debit card, no account fee and no debit card RM15.90 annual fee too. But the catch is my debit card doesn't come with debit card function, it's only an ATM card although there is a Master card logo printed on it. Debit card function can be reactivated at any time by calling up Cimb CS but CIMB will start charging AF RM15.90 thereafter.
Do a test, charge your CIMB debit at any CC merchant to see if your debit card works.

Debit card used to be free for BSA previously but I think Cimb's fees and charges policies had changed.




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post May 18 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ May 18 2017, 09:27 AM)
I award you with most valuable post in FD thread Jan to May 2017. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 1 2017, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(thisisyourname @ Jun 1 2017, 07:05 PM)
Hello,
I check online if interest 4.1 p.a
Year Year Deposits Year Interest Total Deposits Total Interest Balance
1 $0.00 $417.79 $10,000.00 $417.79 $10,417.79

If UOx the final interest should RM 410
If you CIXX received "Profit to be Paid", I don't know every month fixed of not, if fixed the final interest > RM 417.79 and not counting compound interest.

I surprise of this !!!
This is because "Islamic" or "CIXX" very fair?
If like that sure very support "CIXX" not "UOx" because the "extra" can cover BC fees and more than UOx. Very great.

Everybody same situation, do you know how this "Islamic CIXX" counting? Can show the formula.

Thank you.
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If you are not defaming the bank, no need to use X, just type the exact abbreviation.
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post Jun 2 2017, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Jun 2 2017, 07:03 PM)
In anticipation of some BR funds maturing on Monday, I have already opened a savings account at Bank Muamalat today. First time the branch manager came to talk to me & gave me his name card. Everything same as per reported here:
- if cheque, effective date is the next day
- monthly interest if RM 500k & above
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Mind to share which branch and FD receipt can be collected on same date (if chq)?
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post Jun 3 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jun 3 2017, 10:03 AM)
OK, update on yesterday Bank Muamalat's FD.

Totally dismayed with this bank !!  tongue.gif

On Monday I placed the 4.5% 12 mth FD with personal cheque. Received the FD cert (which was shown here) but effective date 1 day later. Was expecting that may get the FD cert on the same day but dated on Monday.

However, was told CANNOT get the cert on Friday and effective date on Tuesday, used personal cheque !! They said new instruction from HQ. Bank Muamalat has encountered a lot of cases where cheque bounced and they want to ensure that cheque are cleared before issuing FD cert and effective date ! doh.gif

The last time I encountered cheque clearance of 2 days was with HL Islamic FD >2 years ago. But still receive FD cert same day. Heard now HL Islamic FD do not have this 2 days clearance issue.

Told them that other banks are issuing cert and effective date same day even using personal cheque. Their officers tried to convince me that they know this and have feedback to HQ. They are trying to work out a best practice SOP.

Based on what has been reported the last 2 weeks, looks like there is no SOP in Bank Muamalat !!

Confirmed below (or will it be changed soon  brows.gif ):
- 500k and above in one single cert then will get monthly interest. Cannot be 250k X 2
- no Priority Banking for this bank (they said I will be treated like their PB  laugh.gif )

I was even thinking of pulling back my cheque !  tongue.gif

Then they keep on trying to convince me. I said I am reluctant to come to collect the cert on Tuesday. Offered to send the FD cert to me on Tuesday. Offer accepted.  biggrin.gif

As another "compensation", was given one more golf umbrella.  devil.gif

So lose 4 days interest due to Friday placement ! Thats why I regretted that I did not open a BSA on last Monday when I placed my FD. Then would be able to RENTAS or ibg the dough in and will not lose 2 or 4 days interest.

Not sure if I will put in another FD there if another bank has similar offer in the future !  biggrin.gif
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Can't they just stamp it on the FD receipt that FD receipt is only valid upon clearance of chq and give it to the customer on the same day? Adui... doh.gif
4days interest loss for RM200k is about RM100, can buy 2 bags of 10kg Sunwhite AAA premium frangant rice liao biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jun 3 2017, 01:28 PM)
But if go for CIMB 4.2% or Affin 4.3%, difference of RM600 or RM400 for 200k. Buy even more bags of 10kg Sunwhite AAA premium frangant rice. What is your choice then ?  hmm.gif  laugh.gif

One of the pioneers in this forum got the same 4 days lost. Another one 3 days lost. Both placed on Fridays.  Damx inconsistencies in their administration of FD eff date !  biggrin.gif
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RM400 is the obvious choice but they took RM100 back with their new 2 business days float policy which I think is not fair to the depositor. May I know, you presented the chq to muamalat bank before or after 4pm and chq payment got debited on Friday evening itself from you current account?

QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jun 3 2017, 04:13 PM)

That 3 day versus 4 day delay may not be a wrong SOP thingy but may be due to time the cheque put in and processed fast before say 11 a.m Friday. My personal cheque went in after 11 a.m. The best time and day and how  the bank staff and system works, also always played a part when dealing with short term money, forex, transfers and trade documents.

The question of the extra weekend days as posed by nbi Friday 01:20 a.m post # 2355 if effective on Friday is still unanswered. Maybe guy3288 can answer this question if his Placement Date was Friday 2 June, is his Maturity Date on Saturday 2 June 2018 or automatically adjusted to Monday 4 June 2018 like Bank Rakyat and UOB will do.?
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I believe Bank Muamalat is the participating bank of MyClear since they also offering current account service. Therefore, similar to other commercial banks, any chq that was presented and validated before 4pm, the fund will be on float in their account in the same evening. They shouldn't shortchanged chq depositors 2 business days or even one business day.
Can you confirm that your chq payment to Muamalat was debited on the same day you presented the chq?
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jun 3 2017, 08:46 PM)
I have complained and the senior staff said they have heard similar complains and was feeding back to HQ. That other banks accept personal cheque and FD eff date on day of placement. It looks to me they may not have been focusing on consumer banking before ?

My placement was done around 12.20pm. Sat morning CB sent an SMS saying cheque has been cleared from my account.

My grouses was tamed when they offered to send the FD cert to my house.  biggrin.gif
Anyway someone else also said this bank has no PB program. So the officer told me no such program but I will be treated as such ! laugh.gif
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Thanks! I guess your CTB account was debited on Friday evening. The question is can muamalat shortchanged depositors 2 days interest under Malaysian standard banking practices ?


QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jun 3 2017, 08:52 PM)
Can see online debitted same day as placed on Friday 19 May morning as follows:-

19-May-2017  INWARD CLEARING CHQ DEBIT 14xxxx  RM101,000.00

As for presented and validated? What does this really mean practically? Is this not something entirely dependent on what the bank staff will actually do on a Friday with a break like at Bank Muamalat?
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Thanks!
Presented means, you bank in the chq at the bank counter.
Validated means, the staff enter and scan the chq thru e-SPICK system to MyClear.
With the CTCS, e-SPICK chq clearing system, I don't think Bank Muamalat has any valid reason to hold the FD effective date even for one day.

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Jun 3 2017, 11:11 PM)
How about Affin 18 months 4.5% promo? I just remekmbered about this promo & thinking should I just eventually stick with Affin instead.
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Affin got 4.5% ?

QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jun 3 2017, 11:14 PM)
Thanks for your reply.

But if bank staff is slow to scan the chq, then what happens?

If Bank Muamalat has no valid reason, why BNM not pressing them? (Or for that matter, Bank Rakyat and Bank Islam as well)

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1) Nothing happen, u just have to wait a bit longer.

2) I guess you need to make some noise, can you help to complain to BNM? I'm not good at writing and I'm not yet muamalat customer.
Tell BNM, your money deducted on Friday but Muamalat only commence interest calculation on Monday.

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post Jun 4 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jun 4 2017, 09:04 AM)
Not too familiar with this type of interbank xfer. Was thinking even if my acct debited, but another timing is when the other side receive the money. It won't be immediate, right ? Next working day ? hmm.gif

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The money will be in muamalat account on the same day and interest start counting despite the money is still under float.
Example: you bank in a chq into your savings account before 4pm on the 1st, (assuming business day) you will only see the credit entry the next day but dated back to 1st. The savings interest will commence from 1st even thought the money is still under float.
Similarly, if you make a repayment by chq to an OD or loan account before 4pm, the saving on loan interest will take effect on the day you presented the chq and not upon the clearance of chq.
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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Jun 9 2017, 03:46 PM)
any bank giving monthly interest ....

so far the good deal as below

Muamalat bank 4.5% per year for 24 months

affin bank 4.25% per year for 12 months

cimb bank 4.10% per yearfor 12 months
however all above only payout interest upon maturity ....
btw, why bank giving high interest rate especially 4.5% bank, running out of liquidity ????
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Instead of looking for monthly interest FD deal, you can place the muamalat 4.5% 12months FD, 100k and give yourself the monthly interest (from your own money), the effective rate is still a decent 4.40%.
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QUOTE(drbone @ Jun 9 2017, 11:56 PM)
Still less than if one manages to get monthly interact from the 4.5%
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Not comparing with the >500k placement. It was just for the sake of comparing effective yield as he was looking for monthly interest FD deal. You don't actually pay monthly interest to yourself do you biggrin.gif .

Anyway, for 4.50% 12 mths with monthly interest, the effective rate is about 4.60% (assuming monthly interest compounded at 4.5%)

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