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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Jan 23 2023, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyDiver @ Jan 23 2023, 12:57 PM)
Total interest paid for 24mths @4.8% = total interest paid for first 12mths @4.3% plus total interest paid for second 12mths @X%. Solve for X and you should get 5.3%.

The bank would maximise profit if they minimise their costs in terms of interest paid on deposits. Therefore they should only have offered the 24mths FD @4.8% if they expect the 12mth FD interest rate in January 2024 to be 5.3% or higher.
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Even if they did up it to 5%, you will still not win that much anyway if you put it when it was 4.8.

And you are assuming that banks will up their interest rate to more then 4.8 just because the opr is increased.

Look at the interest rate right now. How many banks offered 4.5. so why would they do a 5.3 even if there is an interest hike unless the interest rate hike is so significant.

Some of your reasoning is totally off.

But maybe you were just lazy to go and renew at 4.8 ,when you had the chance and are making excuses right now.
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post Jan 23 2023, 05:23 PM

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Anyway. My opinion on why they decided to give 4.8 is because they have a special customer that require funds very urgently. That is why they offered 4.5 first and then 4.8 as the deadline to raise the money become more urgent.

And I think banks do have inside knowledge as to whether or not opr is going to be increased
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post Jan 23 2023, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 23 2023, 03:20 AM)
How do you come across that conclusion is Para 1? ZERO chance 12m FD at 5.3% in a years time man. For us to hit that OPR needs 4 to 5 25bps hikes. Which is insane given inflation has been moderating the last six months.

FYI in any case, forward OPR curve is not the only consideration when setting FD rates across longer tenures.
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It's ok. He is probably crying inside.
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post Jan 25 2023, 12:39 AM

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So which bank gives the highest now. ignoring the period.
Bank rakyat?

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post Jan 25 2023, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Jan 25 2023, 08:02 AM)
since you've been following this topic closely, refer all new promo rates (effective 20 Jan) which have been posted here since 19 Jan

ignore all other rates until stated otherwise (eg reconfirmed by users)
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I will once I am about to place the next FD.
But I am sure there are someone who has probably done that homework for me so I probably do not have to waste my time if possible.
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post Jan 25 2023, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jan 25 2023, 12:45 PM)
i wonder what are the chances that this will be extended.....
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For me it's a "c###" promotion considering that you have to be an invika customer and min deposit is 50k.

If they dun give competitive rates, I will probably close my invika account after my fd expires.
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post Jan 26 2023, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jan 25 2023, 01:54 PM)
their eFDs is 4.15% for 12m and also ending Feb 3rd. Wonder if this will be extended or even reduce since no OPR increase
Looks like Invikta members only get a tiny bit more. Btw do they charge any membership fees?
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You just have to put 200k to be an invika member
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post Jan 27 2023, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Don don @ Jan 27 2023, 12:29 AM)
Hi all sifu what benefit fd put in 1month with 1year?

As I know 1year fd rate higher then 1month rate but if put 1month ez take out anytime becoz every month got interest
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If you are going to put 1 month might as well pit on versa or in tng.

For most of us, we are just putting money that we do not need at the moment. And retirees put their money in fd so as to cover their monthly expenses.


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post Jan 28 2023, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Jan 27 2023, 01:45 PM)
if monthly they pay interest, if let just say after 10 months then i decided to withdraw will they clawback the interest from my principal amount?
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Obviously.
Use logic. They already very good give you monthly interest.
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post Jan 28 2023, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 27 2023, 12:47 PM)
Bank Rakyat 4.8% for 2 years with monthly interest is still available but it needs at least RM 100K or above.

You can ask any Bank Rakyat branch for 4.8% for 2 years, this rate does not open to anybody unless you have sufficient
fund to meet the minimum requirement, this 4.8% rate needs to get approval from Bank Rakyat HQ.
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Thx for letting us know.
Can I put in 2 separate FD slips?
50k each. Just in case I am not near the bank I created the FD in?
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post Feb 1 2023, 01:07 AM

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If cannot get 4.5 then really thinking of putting short term. Wished my FD expired last month.
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post Feb 4 2023, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 3 2023, 11:26 PM)
Last round interbank  interest rate Klibor 3 m kept moving up hitting my CIMB upper limit 3.70, my structured product 5.5% coupon  became  ZERO, luckily lasted only  6days since OPR was kept same, very fast interbank rate retreated from 3.71 to 3.70, then to 3.68 and today 3.67..interbank rate is indication OPR going up or not unless the bankers again get it wrong .
Ambank 4.3% for 12 month is premier banking only...

other bank premier give higher FD rate?

So fast the 4.5% FDs all gone...

the highest may be Ambank TIA upto 4.37%  50:50 CASA thingy
but need at least Rm1 million only can reach that 4.37%
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Seriously, now those who did not take 4.8 when they can are really fools.

Hai. After putting so much in 4.5 . The next highest is 4.3 alliance bank for me. Unless you can recommend something similar where I dun have to put in 1 million dollars.

I think I will have to consider short term like this. I really hope we can get 4.5 soon.

Anyway. Do you think I should put in versa cash at the moment. I really dun feel like putting it less then say 4.3

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post Feb 4 2023, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Feb 4 2023, 02:27 AM)
Self contribute to EPF  smile.gif
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Would probably consider doing this if I am in my early fifties.
Now I just want to take out as much as possible.

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post Feb 4 2023, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 4 2023, 07:00 AM)
So u put  a lot into 4.8% fd?
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Unfortunately.. my fd has not matured when they announced 4.8. and I already put all that matured earlier to 4.5

But thinking about it. Maybe I should have just uplifted and put to 4.8.

But I would have put all that matured later this month to 4.8 if still there.

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post Feb 4 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 4 2023, 11:08 AM)
u can get more urself?
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I dun trust epf with my money for the next 15 years.
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post Feb 5 2023, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(virulence @ Feb 4 2023, 08:39 PM)
Central banks & governments all over the world will inflate their currency so that it is cheaper to fund their national debt i.e. inflation rate > interest rate which leads to EPF having to speculate into riskier assets like KLSE for higher gains. At the current inflation rate, doesn't matter if EPF dividends or bank interest rates are even at 7% as you will still be losing purchasing power over time.
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Having money in your own hands is still better then leaving it with epf.

And if you research on cbdc, you will realize that it's a very high possibilty that the current currency might not even be around in say 5 years time.

And stock market is very likely going to crash soon anyways

I am just being responsible by putting my monies in fd that I can take out anytime if I sense real danger.
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post Feb 7 2023, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 7 2023, 02:37 PM)
Got

Post #25425
memang TIA bank can pay us less

if no one kena less before can in again

if someone sudah kena ->means bank now dare lose reputation just to cut from us
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This 4.37 is it only for priviledged customer?
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post Feb 9 2023, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(michaelchang @ Feb 9 2023, 05:12 PM)
Don't need to wait too long, by 3rd quarter FD rate should be around 4.8% or more
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Will not "risk" it though. If they cannot even give 4.3now what makes you think they will give 4.8 later.

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post Feb 9 2023, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Feb 9 2023, 04:05 AM)
12 months. Bundle deal. I done more checking, Basic Savings account apparently based on rate online is 0.25% if less than rm500k... So for the first rm500k 0.25% not 0.3%. Meaning effective rate might be between 4.38% to 4.4%. Not sure if the earmarked BSA 50% portion will get 0.3% or rate based on online. Still better than 4.3% OTC pure FD with a nonsense 10k requirement in BSA.
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Make until so complicated.
Not talking about you the bank.

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