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post Dec 17 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 17 2016, 04:33 PM)
Going back to the points in the above,... I discovered the following :-

I calculated if I am to use the current exchange rates to convert directly from the RM into the AUD, compared against if I am to convert from the RM into the USD first, then after that into the AUD at about the same time, I will spend RM10 less for RM100 to buy the same amount of AUD worth of conversions.

Hence, yes, I believed the actual value f the RM right now is actually more that 4.47,... perhaps even touching as high as RM5 per USD. But because of help from our central bank, we can 'enjoy' a lower USD. Yeah,.........

....... I await further comments,........
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u mean to get same AUD, u spend less RM doing RM->AUD than RM->USD->AUD?

if so, that is only normal.

if u mean cheaper the other way round, that will be something interesting... arbitrage opportunity?

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post Dec 17 2016, 05:37 PM

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this big gun say weak RM is great!
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Weakening ringgit good for trade, says Vincent Tan
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ys-vincent-tan/

but this other big gun disagree.
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Matrade: Weak ringgit won’t result in higher trade surplus
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-trade-surplus/

weak RM cannot be good overall. it's BS to say it is good.
if it's really good, just devalue to 7.0 or even 8.0, all is good then.
so easily done.
try getting it back to 4.0, u can only get defensive responses like "all external, can't control, not too bad".

of course, the ever wise statement is "too strong no good, too weak also no good, just right is good."

so, the big question now, given:

.. the continued strength of the $.
.. USD/RMB going >7.0 soon.
.. our debt levels and addiction to debt.
.. gomen priority for gdp growth (and hence reluctance to raise int rates), which is primarily driven by consumption and construction that bring no fx.
.. our budget deficit, br1m, subsidies, leakage, wastage, graft.

what is the "right" no. for RM?

5.0 by 2018 sounds about right, no?

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post Dec 17 2016, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 17 2016, 05:37 PM)
this big gun say weak RM is great!

but this other big gun disagree.

weak RM cannot be good overall. it's BS to say it is good.
if it's really good, just devalue to 7.0 or even 8.0, all is good then.
so easily done.
try getting it back to 4.0, u can only get defensive responses like "all external, can't control, not too bad".

of course, the ever wise statement is "too strong no good, too weak also no good, just right is good."

so, the big question now, given:

.. the continued strength of the $.
.. USD/RMB going >7.0 soon.
.. our debt levels and addiction to debt.
.. gomen priority for gdp growth (and hence reluctance to raise int rates), which is primarily driven by consumption and construction that bring no fx.
.. our budget deficit, br1m, subsidies, leakage, wastage, graft.

what is the "right" no. for RM?

5.0 by 2018 sounds about right, no?
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If you're product is priced in USD and exported out then its good cause you'll get more RM.
If you're a consumer then it's bad cause it's going to be more expensive for you.

Don't take all these people seriously because what they say is just for their own best interest not yours.
Vincent Tan just wants to make more money that's why he is promoting a weaker ringgit.
Again he probably doesn't care what the other impacts is but only himself.

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He said Tan’s statement was accurate to describe his trading position at the moment, especially as the latter would profit more from the weakening ringgit.
“Tan has a number of businesses overseas and the revenues from these operations would bring greater gains should it be brought back and converted to ringgit, while the ringgit is weak,” Dzulkifli said of the Cardiff City football club owner.


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post Dec 17 2016, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 16 2016, 11:15 PM)
Ringgit oversold by 10% to 12%, says Public IB Research
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/r...lic-ib-research

boleh percaya kah this news devil.gif
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These people have been wrong so so many times. Sometimes I wished someone recorded down what they say and the real outcome for the past 5 years, and do an analysis on how accurate they are with real names.

Something like:-

xxxx name working in KPMG consultancy was wrong in 2/3 of his/her prediction.




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post Dec 18 2016, 12:48 AM

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I think the exporters are no more enjoying themselves as they used to after BNM forced them to convert 75% of their proceeds back to the RM !

I believed nobody would want to convert into 'a lot of a currency' that CONTINUES TO WEAKEN !

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post Dec 18 2016, 01:03 AM

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post Dec 18 2016, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 18 2016, 12:48 AM)
I think the exporters are no more enjoying themselves as they used to  after BNM forced them to convert 75% of their proceeds back to the RM !

I believed nobody would want to convert into 'a lot of a currency' that CONTINUES TO WEAKEN !
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the bigger question is with this 75% thingy, who will put big money into exports biz?
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post Dec 18 2016, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2016, 01:30 AM)
the bigger question is with this 75% thingy, who will put big money into exports biz?
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And why FDI need to set up shops here for export?

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post Dec 18 2016, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2016, 01:30 AM)
the bigger question is with this 75% thingy, who will put big money into exports biz?
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I believe businessman made most money from the trade margin. The Forex gain from sitting on usd pile is just bonus. Nobody likes their bonus being taken away, but that doesn't mean they will just quit/walkaway from their money-making trades.

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post Dec 18 2016, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 16 2016, 01:59 PM)
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quoting with quotes again?

you should at least type something to express your own views smile.gif

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post Dec 18 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Dec 18 2016, 06:06 AM)
quoting with quotes again?

you should at least type something to express your own views smile.gif
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if u hv nothing to share, pls don't post at all.
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post Dec 18 2016, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Dec 18 2016, 04:47 AM)
I believe businessman made most money from the trade margin. The Forex gain from sitting on usd pile is just bonus. Nobody likes their bonus being taken away, but that doesn't mean they will just quit/walkaway from their money-making trades.
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Hmm,... I tend to disagree somewhat,.. for myself, even though I am making a lot from the margin, but if what I made MUST BE converted into something that will lose its value slowly, I will still hesitate.
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post Dec 18 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Dec 18 2016, 06:06 AM)
quoting with quotes again?

you should at least type something to express your own views smile.gif
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Bro,... for myself, I think it's great that AV can furnish us news. He put in great effort to find and post. I wouldn't ask more of him if he is not ready to comment. The great thing abt this thread is we all scour and post what we find from the net. thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 18 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2016, 09:18 AM)
if u hv nothing to share, pls don't post at all.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 18 2016, 10:15 AM)
Bro,... for myself, I think it's great that AV can furnish us news. He put in great effort to find and post. I wouldn't ask more of him if he is not ready to comment. The great thing abt this thread is we all scour and post what we find from the net.  :thumbsup:
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wow didn't realize there's an douche bag in every thread. I feel you AV as I always post stuff on the fsm group and there's one guy who never gives anything in the conversation and will pop up for no where and start complaining. keep up the good job AV news articles help a lot when making a decision on what to invest and where to invest
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post Dec 18 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 18 2016, 10:15 AM)
Bro,... for myself, I think it's great that AV can furnish us news. He put in great effort to find and post. I wouldn't ask more of him if he is not ready to comment. The great thing abt this thread is we all scour and post what we find from the net.  thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 18 2016, 10:26 AM)
wow didn't realize there's an douche bag in every thread. I feel you AV as I always post stuff on the fsm group and there's one guy who never gives anything in the conversation and will pop up for no where and start complaining. keep up the good job AV news articles help a lot when making a decision on what to invest and where to invest
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well, if one has hung around any thread LYN or any forum for a while, one surely knows - there are all kinds.

one liners, trolls, "feed me's", post for post sake, stalkers, hijackers, derailers, troopers...

it is true not everyone can keep up with a dynamic and complex subject and hence get lost in the middle.

more so when one is lazy and does not want to read or think a bit.

and that causes frustration on one side and exasperation on the other.



however, one can also find value in some others' posts.

it is for this reason i only go to a handful of threads where i know there are good contributors to share with and brains to pick.

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post Dec 18 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Dec 18 2016, 04:47 AM)
I believe businessman made most money from the trade margin. The Forex gain from sitting on usd pile is just bonus. Nobody likes their bonus being taken away, but that doesn't mean they will just quit/walkaway from their money-making trades.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 18 2016, 04:18 AM)
And why FDI need to set up shops here for export?
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the actual impact of that 75% thingy has yet to be seen.

however, the comments from topglove already give a clue - it will stifle export industries' growth, i.e. new investments for export biz will think very hard about whether to go ahead or not.


what sectors are we talking about when we say "export biz" or anything that earn FX?

that should be largely manufacturing.

this new report says mfg investment approved (not actual) is down by 39%.

not much details about foreign or domestic; the nos. are for jan-sep, before the trump win, before the 75% thingy.

i doubt the 75% thingy is going to help the RM overall over time.

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On the manufacturing sector, he said approved investments for the sector dropped 39% for the January-September period from the corresponding period last year.
He said the total investments approved in the manufacturing sector were mainly in petroleum products, including petrochemicals (RM9.4 billion), electronics and electrical products (RM7.3 billion), natural gas (RM3.7 billion) and food manufacturing (RM3.3 billion).

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ed-since-jan-1/


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post Dec 18 2016, 11:49 AM

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Besides u.s fed rate, with China as the largest trading partner, economic downturn e.g property bubble burst in China, RMB breached 7.0 will have impact on Myr forex rate.

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post Dec 18 2016, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 17 2016, 05:22 PM)
u mean to get same AUD, u spend less RM doing RM->AUD than RM->USD->AUD?

if so, that is only normal.

if u mean cheaper the other way round, that will be something interesting... arbitrage opportunity?
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Bro,... pls help me to confirm,... I discovered an arbitrage opportunity here ! AUD will be weakening these 2 to 3 days, but after it 're-strengthened', pls allocate a few minutes to help me cfm,... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 18 2016, 11:49 AM)
Besides u.s fed rate, with China as the largest trading partner, economic downturn e.g property bubble burst in China, RMB breached 7.0 will have impact on Myr forex rate.
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i am starting to wonder if bnm is intervening to keep RM closer to RMB rather than USD.

since there is so much hype about RM144 bil investment to come from china.


QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 18 2016, 01:01 PM)
Bro,... pls help me to confirm,... I discovered an arbitrage opportunity here ! AUD will be weakening these 2 to 3 days, but after it 're-strengthened', pls allocate a few minutes to help me cfm,... tongue.gif
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so, u mean it is better to do RM->USD->AUD than RM->AUD?

in another thread, i mentioned i was checking if SGD->USD->RM is better than SGD->RM due to the ridiculous RM/SGD spread with the local banks.

i will post what i find tmrw. smile.gif
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post Dec 18 2016, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2016, 01:18 PM)
i am starting to wonder if bnm is intervening to keep RM closer to RMB rather than USD.

since there is so much hype about RM144 bil investment to come from china.
so, u mean it is better to do RM->USD->AUD than RM->AUD?

in another thread, i mentioned i was checking if SGD->USD->RM is better than SGD->RM due to the ridiculous RM/SGD spread with the local banks.

i will post what i find tmrw. smile.gif
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Tq for helping to confirm, bro,.. maybe PM if you wished to.

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