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 What to do with RM100K?, Choosing the best way to invest.

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dreamer101
post Feb 14 2007, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Feb 14 2007, 09:18 AM)
Billy, if you can amass Rm100k with an SPM qualification, you must be a hard worker.

With such quality, I recommend you to find a sales job. Rm2.5k is peanuts for excellent salesperson. This is what you want to consider selling. Be a sales agent :-

1) Stock market is doing good - Consider joining Public Mutual as unit trust agent, they dont pay you salary but commission is 2.8% - 3.1%. My senior makes  RM5k like this. He's excellent. Your target are people with EPF. Those people invest a lot. If you can get RM200,000 from EPF (this is normal), how much is the commission.

2) Ever heard of Marcus Evans ? This company sells ticket that costs a bomb. Their target are usually big companies. Commission is good and salary is minimal. IINM around Rm1.5k+ for salary and 30% commission. Tickets are like RM500 each. LOL

3) Be a computer salesperson for Dell or IBM.
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If you are good in selling, sell insurance. Insurance has the highest commission comparing to everything else. And, everyone need some kind of insurance.

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post Feb 14 2007, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(billycomeback @ Feb 14 2007, 03:32 AM)

I'm not sure what you mean by 'this by the best interest rate you can get for your capital.', but let's just say I'm paying a RM400 rent every month which would make my yearly rent to be around RM4800. So do you mean I divide this by the amount of interest I can earn from the capital I'm willing to put down for a house?
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Sorry bout that. I meant that if you bought a home, you wouldn't need to pay for rent so you'd save on 4800rm. To get 4800rm a year, and thus not need to pay for rent through your salary, you'd need (according to colorola's 4% FD) 120,000 in the bank. Furthermore, the dividend you'll get will be taxed, so that means that the chap who's renting the house to you is actually making a nice profit off you. You might want to shop about for a home yourself, but you'd have to consider the mortgage if it's applicable and all that nonsense. Try going to this other post by jasondotcom over here to which dreamer has also contributed.

I apologise if what I write doesn't make much sense but I'm lacking sleep, sorry.
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post Feb 14 2007, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Feb 14 2007, 10:14 AM)
Sorry bout that. I meant that if you bought a home, you wouldn't need to pay for rent so you'd save on 4800rm. To get 4800rm a year, and thus not need to pay for rent through your salary, you'd need (according to colorola's 4% FD) 120,000 in the bank. Furthermore, the dividend you'll get will be taxed, so that means that the chap who's renting the house to you is actually making a nice profit off you. You might want to shop about for a home yourself, but you'd have to consider the mortgage if it's applicable and all that nonsense. Try going to this other post by jasondotcom over here to which dreamer has also contributed.

I apologise if what I write doesn't make much sense but I'm lacking sleep, sorry.
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I do not use that kind of formula. The formula and system that I use according to typical rent versus buy decision is based on a very simple assumption.

Does it cost more for you to rent or buy??

So, if it cost you $4,800 to rent a house, the house need to cost you less than $4,800 per year to own. Or else, it is NOT worthwhile to buy. You may be willing to pay a bit more but not a lot more.

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post Feb 14 2007, 10:41 AM

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o.i.c ...that 's how you earn your 100k ...

sorry for my statement prior posting ..

but .. this is a special advice ( if i may ) to you biilycomesback ,

with all the hard work while at oversea .. you had no clue what is the actual happening here in town be in penang or in KL ....


your 100k now seems no big deal at all ( at this Moment of time ).... cos ... the actual facts is that the 100K will be down to nothing in no time....

just an example ... buying a house .. 100K or lesst is hard to come by ...unless in a very very small town ..... so if you are looking for investment in buying an house ... forget it ....

and if your invest it on "money market" also.. forget it .. cos .. the return its slow .. and will not be able to support you in time ... and needing ....

buying a car ...??? you must be really think twice .. !!! .. your 100k will even burn fasting ...

but if you are buying a car for the job requirement ....
then can consider ... but still it will lead you nowhere ..

with a car available ... you may look for a "sales" job ... in any fields that suits you ... then you
are taking about RM2.5K or more ....

but the company can be "cina ah peh" company ... whom are paying cheap and does not bother about your SPM status....


even open up a "watan mee store " will burn half of your 100K ...



conclusion to this :: It will be better to "Jump the Plane" again and work hard for few more years to earn another 100 K


believe me my friends ..I am in the fields of works .. that has the exprinces seeing thousands of this people whom works overseas ( Jump plane) ... and the results is all the same ...


well ..!! i guess this is the price you pay in life .. remember .. the phrase : you win some , you lose some...

so good luck to you ... take care ....
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post Feb 14 2007, 12:45 PM

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use that 100k to start a hawker food stall in singapore. can earn 5k per month if im not mistaken drool.gif
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post Feb 14 2007, 02:14 PM

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How bout investment?
I think RM100k is enough for u to do land banking. Land banking is always better than invest in condominium or other property as land value can grow rapidly if u work on it.
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QUOTE(jong52yuara @ Feb 14 2007, 12:45 PM)
use that 100k to start a hawker food stall in singapore. can earn 5k per month if im not mistaken  drool.gif
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yeh, the rental can kill u fast if no customer. My aunt rent a small shop below the HDB Flat for S$10k p.m that's RM23,000 p.m selling clothes. blush.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 14 2007, 09:28 AM)
If you are good in selling, sell insurance.  Insurance has the highest commission comparing to everything else.  And, everyone need some kind of insurance.

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i'm considering dis too. 35% commision is very attractive. but never know wether i'm gud in selling becoz never do. haiya wat to do. no harm to try but is it worth my time to try hmm.gif

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post Feb 14 2007, 08:43 PM

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There are 100,000 insurance agents in Malaysia. Most will drop out after a while. You need to be really good at sales to make a living from insurance.

QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 14 2007, 03:11 PM)
i'm considering dis too. 35% commision is very attractive. but never know wether i'm gud in selling becoz never do. haiya wat to do. no harm to try but is it worth my time to try  hmm.gif
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Added on February 14, 2007, 8:51 pm

To save cost ... why not just register your marriage and organise a small dinner party where only the immediate families and closest friends are invited? That's what one of my friends did. But of course, your partner and relatives might not be too happy, since the concept of face is very important in Asia.

QUOTE(billycomeback @ Feb 14 2007, 03:32 AM)
True, I can't seem to figure out how much a marriage will cost until I see a marriage counsellor, but overall, I believe it won't be a big spending spree. Planning to keep it simple yet memorable, and hopefully the angpows I get can cover some of the cost involved.


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post Feb 14 2007, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 14 2007, 03:11 PM)
i'm considering dis too. 35% commision is very attractive. but never know wether i'm gud in selling becoz never do. haiya wat to do. no harm to try but is it worth my time to try  hmm.gif
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Mucklampir,

From my understanding, the commission is 130% to 140% of the first year premium. It is NOT 35%.

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post Feb 15 2007, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 14 2007, 02:36 PM)
yeh, the rental can kill u fast if no customer.  My aunt rent a small shop below the HDB Flat for S$10k p.m that's RM23,000 p.m selling clothes.  blush.gif
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i mean not really a shop, i said food stall. not really sure how much is rent, but the profit sure can get SG$5 - 6k per month. especially busy place like chua chu kang, toa payoh..
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post Feb 15 2007, 03:13 AM

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although i duno much bout economy...but i think money changer and air ticket seller make quite a money...
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post Feb 15 2007, 07:31 AM

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still young n already have rm100k, salute to u bro..
if u are not a risk taker : put yr money in FD, ASW2020 0r ASN..
if u are not : Unit trust n Stock Market


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post Feb 15 2007, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Addicted2Money @ Feb 14 2007, 08:43 PM)
There are 100,000 insurance agents in Malaysia. Most will drop out after a while.  You need to be really good at sales to make a living from insurance.

Added on February 14, 2007, 8:51 pm

To save cost ... why not just register your marriage and organise a small dinner party where only the immediate families and closest friends are invited? That's what one of my friends did. But of course, your partner and relatives might not be too happy, since the concept of face is very important in Asia.
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Addicted2Money,

Agree with you in that there is a lot of competition. But, it is the same everywhere. Can you really find any profitable job that has NO competition?? The difference here is selling insurance is actually highly profitable comparing to MLM, unit trust and so on..

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post Feb 15 2007, 09:52 AM

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To save cost ... why not just register your marriage and organise a small dinner party where only the immediate families and closest friends are invited? That's what one of my friends did. But of course, your partner and relatives might not be too happy, since the concept of face is very important in Asia.


This is a major burden to people getting married. In the West, nobody cares about the size of the wedding.
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may I ask why you came back since life seems greener for u on the other side...
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QUOTE(colorola @ Feb 15 2007, 03:13 AM)
although i duno much bout economy...but i think money changer and air ticket seller make quite a money...
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every job also can make alot of money if u r best in it. Even grave digger, corpse collector, executioner also can make lots of money. Type of job is not important, most important is the attitude toward the job. blush.gif
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post Feb 15 2007, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(walau @ Feb 15 2007, 11:57 AM)
may I ask why you came back since life seems greener for u on the other side...
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It is greener because I earn more, but the reason I saved so much is because I have no life there. I saved where I can and hardly spend on anything other than the necessary. There are other colleagues of mine that have worked outside their country for so long that they don't even see their children more than 2 weeks a year. It becomes like a self imposed prison because the money is so good, it would be crazy to quit their jobs and go back home at their education level. I don't want that kind of life, so I decided to come back early when I'm still young to start myself new so I don't fall into the same situation. Money isn't everything. It's a means to an end but it should never control your life.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 14 2007, 10:32 AM)
I do not use that kind of formula.  The formula and system that I use according to typical rent versus buy decision is based on a very simple assumption.

Does it cost more for you to rent or buy??

So, if it cost you $4,800 to rent a house, the house need to cost you less than $4,800 per year to own.  Or else, it is NOT worthwhile to buy.  You may be willing to pay a bit more but not a lot more.

Dreamer
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Thanks for your advice dreamer101 and also empyreal regarding house buying. I've done some thinking as well about buying a house, it will be a hard decision but most likely will involve some kind of beneficial loans from banks which I have family working in. Still too early for that at the moment but your advice will be in my head of course. I won't increase my monthly expenditure too much just to pay for a house compared to renting a house. I'm wondering though, is it possible to pay the entire amount for the house? Is it worth it? Because if I can find a medium cost house, I might share it with a family member to pay for the entire house in full so no loans will be applied. Just wondering if it is a wise thing to do.

QUOTE(Addicted2Money @ Feb 14 2007, 08:43 PM)
There are 100,000 insurance agents in Malaysia. Most will drop out after a while.  You need to be really good at sales to make a living from insurance.

Added on February 14, 2007, 8:51 pm

To save cost ... why not just register your marriage and organise a small dinner party where only the immediate families and closest friends are invited? That's what one of my friends did. But of course, your partner and relatives might not be too happy, since the concept of face is very important in Asia.
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Don't think I'll do insurance selling to be honest. I have a habit of avoiding insurance agent friends, not that I don't like them, but I treat them the same like MLM friends. Just something I'll try not to do, unless I have tried every possibility. No offence to any agents out there, I respect your job as a provider of a service, I just don't feel comfortable with certain sales tactics that are questionable. Maybe just me and my suspicious outlook.

Regarding wedding, absolutely impossible to have a small dinner with immediate families. It would be a PR disaster for me and gf hahahaha. My side would probably think I'm such a 'scrooge' and her side would think I'm trying to hide the marriage from public like as though it is something wrong hahahaha. So it would be a reasonably sized dinner, nothing pompous or extravagant, just simple and easy. Just need to convince the other side to do the same.... blush.gif

QUOTE(colorola @ Feb 15 2007, 03:13 AM)
although i duno much bout economy...but i think money changer and air ticket seller make quite a money...
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I thought about that before but money changer is a definite no-no because the capital needed is too big. Air ticket seller sounds like a credible business since Air-travel in Malaysia will be broadening with Air-Asia selling cheap flights but then Air-asia doesn't have plane tickets. They just give you the booking number and thats it.


QUOTE(suns8630 @ Feb 14 2007, 10:41 AM)
conclusion to this :: It will be better to "Jump the Plane"  again and work hard for few more years to earn another 100 K
believe me my friends ..I am in the fields of works .. that has the exprinces seeing thousands of this people whom works overseas ( Jump plane) ... and the results is all the same ...
well ..!! i guess this is the price you pay in life .. remember .. the phrase : you win some , you lose some...

so good luck to you ... take care ....
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Maybe if I can't survive in Malaysia after trying then maybe I would consider the option of "jump plane" again. I've seen people make it with minimum wage, I believe I can too. But if it really is bad beyond my expectation, I will probably look for other opportunities elsewhere then.
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Feb 14 2007, 08:22 PM)
insurance? yea maybe everyone need it...but look there are so many agent around already, so u have confident u can win them?
lolxx....i thought cant say bout that at here?
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reserch shows tat in japan alone a person hv 7 policies but in m'sia only 10 out of 3 ppl got insurance. shocking.gif shocking.gif
so start think bout it now! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(janice87 @ Feb 15 2007, 03:19 PM)
reserch shows tat in japan alone a person hv 7 policies but in m'sia only 10 out of 3 ppl got insurance. shocking.gif  shocking.gif
so start think bout it now! icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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but dun forget that the 7 ppl is mayb 5 is conservative and unwilling to buy insurance...there are such ppl....

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