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DerekKuah
post Jun 12 2007, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(billycomeback @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)
Thanks again for all the feedback and advice from everyone in this thread. Since the time I wrote this topic till now, there has been some major changes to my life which I made for the past couple of months.

I've set myself some targets when I wrote this post am trying to achieve it, but unfortunately it is all not going according to plan. But what the hell, this is life, not some precision assembly factory, some cock-ups are expected.
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I have so far spoken to my partner about our future and we have decided to buy a house for ourselves. So this is one new financial burden I have to live with for the next 25 years. We are planning to marry sometime next year or so, when the house is ready so there is still time for that.

I've been looking for jobs in the market and have so far yielded none that can suit my expectations. I was hoping to get something which I can lend my current work experience to so I'm still holding out for something better. Its not like I'm out of work so at the moment, it is not a desperate situation. Still thinking whether to completely change industry or to stay in my current one.

I have spoken to a few close friends about the prospect of opening a business, two of them are now in some form of business on top of their daily job. One seem to be successful and the other is still looking for his footing. But both are happy about their achievements and I feel happy for them as well. I can't seem to find the same enthusiasm they both have though, so it's still not an option for me.

I have started looking at numerous investments in the market and will try my hand at a few soon, namely unit trusts and the stock market. Nothing big, just testing the waters.

Dopey,
the house I'm going to buy with my partner now is a form of investment itself. Although we don't plan on selling it the moment it is built but the idea will probably spring itself up when the market heats up a bit. For now, the plan is to get cosy and build a family. But like I said, if the market does heat up to a point that it is favourable for us to sell it, then we probably will. No emotional attachment whatsoever yet.

Zombie,
thanks for the advice. My partner still seem to hate the idea of working  rolleyes.gif . She still hopes she is going to be a housewife after marriage, I of course will remind her of the reality we will be facing. To be honest, I hope for that as well. Well, only time will tell.

lwb,
thanks for the advice about the saver to investor thing. I am like you describe and will be very prudent in any investment I decide to go into. Although its hard to shake off the saver out of me, I believe it is a good thing to be mindful of all costs.

Again, thanks for all the comments and please don't stop here, keep the comments and advices and warnings coming. I believe this is good education for all.  thumbup.gif
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Billy

My advise is alwis make strong of your foundation first. Get invest to education(at
least get a degree). Forget abt those investment & house whatever. Put the remaining investment all into FD. Alwis remember 100k u save from ur hard work at other country is not easy to earn. Bare in mind & i guranteed there is a lot of ppl in their whole life can earn RM100k but cannot save 100k in their bank.

It is alwis a wrong path to throw the money u earn into the business. This becos u was outside with the acknowlege of the growth in malaysia. Thats why i seen a lot of my frens dump into drain of their Rm100k (invest in car accesories, restaurant, cafe & etc). Its easy to open a business but not easy to run the businees successfull. a busineess is not abt 3-4months....is abt 3-5 years if talk abt ROI.

To buy a house is not a rush. A lot of ppl into rush to own something ending up killing themselves with commitment. Abt marriage i also i dont encourage in rush as well. Mostly nowadays marriage divorce is duly of financial problem. The main here is not abt u have RM100k, its abt how monthly u can afford & contirbute to ur future expenses. Let say as previous so many comments that u invest house, unit thrust & marriage.
House = Rm30k(assume u buy low cost house-pay more d/p so ur monthly reduce)
Marriage = Rm20k(cheapest extimation)
1st child = Rm10k(minimum estimation)
All above mentioned is a minimum estimation only. All u using now is ur RM100k. How abt u contribute monthly with ur income as with ur qualificaiton as SPM.The remaining u have is only Rm40k.To built a family, u easily need at least RM5k monthly earning with provide have abt 1k saving.(1 person earning). As u mentioned u working expetation of 2.5k, i will foreseen u will have a problem even with the amount u have in ur bank. Mayb u can say a family is a combine of ur wife as well?What will the total income of u & ur future wife? Have u work in out?Pls do all this before u get into marriage.Remember to raise up a children is costly nowadays(minimum 1k for one child). And also with ur spm holder, how far & how long with ur expected 2.5k will go to 6k or higher.
What the answer to this?

To share my experience here>>>
Im a graduate engineer in Uk. After graduate i spend 2 years working in Uk(use student pass). The purpose i stay is to save capital money to open my busineess(which i plan since im at 18 years old). I graduate at 21 after 2 years back to malaysia to start my 1st work(at age 23).... i invest on a car(RM28k cash) & others all in FD. Thoughout the year i been working while im thinking of my planning of own busineess. Somehow at a certain brainstorm & advise from senior & my parents. Somehow i gave up my plan & concentrate to my career as an engineer. On that year i replan my onother 5 years plan with calloborate with my carrer path. With these investment i had no any commitment somehow i gained pure interest form my FD(yearly abt 3k) & also monthly saving from my salary(no commitment as my car was paid in cash). For info my starting pay is Rm2k(for my first job). After 1 1/2 year i jump to new company with the higher salary (Rm4k) till current at age of 26. Within the year without any commitment i able to save abt Rm20K. Till to my new job i change my old car & started to have commitment into buying a new car(altis)....Till now im working in a mNC company & more stable career & somehow now only starting to eyes on some investment but not to house yet. I will only buy a house when my salary achieve Rm6k...Dont alwis drag urself when ur income is just sufficient only for a car & a house. Sometimes we dont know where is out career will end up with if we so fast buy a house & end up ur house us at north & ur working is at south.

Hope this can share with you.
TSbillycomeback
post Jun 12 2007, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Jun 12 2007, 09:55 AM)
Billy
Hope this can share with you.
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Thank you Derek. It is always been a dream of mine to be educated abroad and also to get a degree like most of my friends have done when they finished secondary school. Unfortunately for me, the interest to study is there but the inability to finance it is the prime reason I am working overseas. Until now, I still have some hope that I would be able to start studying again but it is getting fainter as I get older and more commitments. Hopefully, when I start working in Malaysia, I can find some time to do some part time studying. hmm.gif

I fully agree with you about planning my commitments according to what I can afford. It is my hope that my future expenditures won't be so taxing on me as I am preparing for it now. What you did with your savings is a great way to accumulate not only your wealth but your confidence as well in managing your money. Although I commend your efforts to discipline your expenditures, I hope you have kept an open mind about buying a house. It should not be a rush but it is better to be on a lookout for a house always rather than looking for it once you achieve something like a RM6k pay. This could save you a lot if you happen to find a good deal and will keep you abreast of property prices. Just keep an eye for your future house or what house you plan to have in the future, by visiting property launches and houses for sale. There are no commitments for doing those but it will equipped you with the knowledge of terrain and keep track of development cycles. cool2.gif

Regarding marriage, I remember my mother used to say "When you have money, girls will flock to you." Now this is true for the most part, as girls DO really flock to you when you have cash to splurge. But these aren't the kind of girls you want to spend the rest of your life's with. Thankfully, my partner and I have been going out for a long time even before I started work and the decision to marry was not in rush or by surprise. Here is a little advice from a person going to get married, the decision doesn't come like a sudden idea popping on top of your head. Time will mold your thoughts to a point where marriage isn't a big thing anymore, more like a customary event just for the convenience of administration. I hope that doesn't pop the romantism bubble you guys and girls have out there regarding marriage. Hahaha a bit boring the way I explained it. rclxms.gif


Lcsx, you are absolutely right about debt there. I don't believe in "rolling" money. I only believe in one thing and that is CASH in hand. Hopefully one fine day I can truly say I will be debt free or financially free.


And a special mention to ansonz. I will NEVER put my money into some get rich scheme and if it is my loss not to do so, then so be it. So Swisscash or swissmutual or any other internet investment scams out there that even has the word swiss in it is definitely out of the question. I hope you don't truly believe that they are actually real and that they have really been operating for even the past decade. Try to research your investments and not believe the advertisements. doh.gif
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post Jun 12 2007, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Jun 11 2007, 07:55 PM)
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To share my experience here>>>
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On that year i replan my onother 5 years plan with calloborate with my carrer path. With these investment i had no any commitment somehow i gained pure interest form my FD(yearly abt 3k) & also monthly saving from my salary(no commitment as my car was paid in cash). For info my starting pay is Rm2k(for my first job). After 1 1/2 year i jump to new company with the higher salary (Rm4k)  till current at age of 26. Within the year without any commitment i able to save abt Rm20K. Till to my new job i change my old car & started to have commitment into buying a new car(altis)....Till now im working in a mNC company & more stable career & somehow now only starting to eyes on some investment but not to house yet.  I will only buy a house when my salary achieve  Rm6k...Dont alwis drag urself when ur income is just sufficient only for a car & a house. Sometimes we dont know where is out career will end up with if we so fast buy a house & end up ur house us at north & ur working is at south.

Hope this can share with you.
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Derek/Billycomeback:

Say if you have 100K in FD that will earn you 3k/year, but don't you have to pay taxes on your interests too since it is your income as well?



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DerekKuah
post Jun 12 2007, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(netfan @ Jun 12 2007, 12:53 PM)
Derek/Billycomeback:

Say if you have 100K in FD that will earn you 3k/year, but don't you have to pay taxes on your interests too since it is your income as well?
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Divide ur FD into below Rm20k/FD...can put ur other family name....thats it..Definite u will be prob if u put Rm100k in a FD...


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post Jun 12 2007, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(netfan @ Jun 12 2007, 12:53 PM)
Derek/Billycomeback:

Say if you have 100K in FD that will earn you 3k/year, but don't you have to pay taxes on your interests too since it is your income as well?
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if i not mistaken, FD less than 50K won't kena tax, so, split....
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i think you should try public mutual unit trust.
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post Jun 13 2007, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Jun 11 2007, 06:12 PM)
pls don simply give ideas without further explaination with facts...
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i just say the truth.. for ur info a construction cost for a shophouses is more than 18k... n this 18k is far below their launching price few years ago.. after 20 year u think the price wont increase?? 20 years ago people who bought house in Puchong we say they stupid n see now... n now Tesco bought a 25 acres land in Bukit Beruntung... if u go auction now u will see agent bought the shophouses at 18k...
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QUOTE(su8aru @ Jun 13 2007, 03:02 PM)
i just say the truth.. for ur info a construction cost for a shophouses is more than 18k... n this 18k is far below their launching price few years ago.. after 20 year u think the price wont increase?? 20 years ago people who bought house in Puchong we say they stupid n see now... n now Tesco bought a 25 acres land in Bukit Beruntung... if u go auction now u will see agent bought the shophouses at 18k...
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thanks for explaination now.....

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