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Lenovo Lenovo P2 Chat V1:Snap625 AMOLED 4GB/32GB 5100mAh, Throw away powerbanks & car chargers !!!

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post Feb 25 2017, 08:37 AM

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MIUI's nasty "hidden" services running in the background is the culprit...

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I hope they don't fix what is NOT broken...

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post Feb 25 2017, 09:19 AM

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Ive used both rn3 and p2. Loading time p2 may be faster but there is a time where p2 is sluggish. Eg. when you scroll activity log in clash royale it is not smooth.

Im planning to sell my p2. Anybody from kuching interested? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 24 2017, 10:31 PM)
Hahaha, dont kid yourself. We all know P2 very slow compare to RN3P. You keep searching for those Video to comfort yourself also no point. In the end, you have a slower device but is compensated with useless big battery. The reason is RN3P still last 1 day.
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Rn3pro? Nope x sampai 1 day, max sot for my wife heavy usage 5 to 6 hours shj, if mi max then yeah, one or more then 1 days. Sot minimum 9 hours on wards

Imo rn3pro rom not so optimize vs mi max is the main reason.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 25 2017, 08:37 AM)
MIUI's nasty "hidden" services running in the background is the culprit...
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You can off them.
QUOTE(game4life @ Feb 25 2017, 09:19 AM)
Ive used both rn3 and p2. Loading time p2 may be faster but there is a time where p2 is sluggish. Eg. when you scroll activity log in clash royale it is not smooth.

Im planning to sell my p2. Anybody from kuching interested? biggrin.gif
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60k vs 78k AnTuTu hehe

QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 25 2017, 09:20 AM)
Rn3pro? Nope x sampai 1 day,  max sot for my wife heavy usage 5 to 6 hours shj,  if mi max then yeah,  one or more then 1 days. Sot minimum 9 hours on wards

Imo rn3pro rom not so optimize vs mi max is the main reason.
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Have to optimize with some setting then you are good to go.
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QUOTE(game4life @ Feb 25 2017, 09:19 AM)
Ive used both rn3 and p2. Loading time p2 may be faster but there is a time where p2 is sluggish. Eg. when you scroll activity log in clash royale it is not smooth.

Im planning to sell my p2. Anybody from kuching interested? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 25 2017, 09:48 AM)
You can off them.

60k vs 78k AnTuTu hehe
Have to optimize with some setting then you are good to go.
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Yup2.
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post Feb 25 2017, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 25 2017, 09:48 AM)
You can off them.

60k vs 78k AnTuTu hehe
Have to optimize with some setting then you are good to go.
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Antutu is for kids.
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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 25 2017, 09:49 PM)
Antutu is for kids.
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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 25 2017, 09:49 PM)
Antutu is for kids.
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i agree antutu is not conclusive to gauge an overall performance of a smartphone flagship or not, just like a car hp, horsepower alone doesnt tell the whole picture there r other factors as well, weight, engine, aerodynamics, etc. but if putting a 300 hp car (SND 835) with a 150hp (SND 620), obviously hp alone is conclusive unless the 300hp car manufacturer has completely no idea what it is doing. the high SND 835, cant be possible the ram n other UI r not streamline to send high antutu reading for its 835 SND. its a no brainer.

imho antutu just give a surface yet rather relevant performance of a smartphone though not overall cuz there r other elements like UI, OS, Ram but it is rather suggestive in my opinion because the UI, os ram efficiency do (minimally) contribute to the antutu reading (thus, narrow) result thats why i believe antutu is a reflective of the smartphone performance but not conclusive because it doesnt translate to UX (user experience) suggestive in the sense that, pound for pound, it is sufficient for a modest match (relatively reliable result)....say, same spec hp, then antutu is a relevant derivative of the sum of the respective phone because the antutu reading is part outcome of the ui, os, ram etc.

so to me, i would read antutu reading as a relevant but not conclusive factor albeit proc segment alone is more

relevant/distinctive to antutu i.e Antutu reading surely higher for (1) SND 820 to 625 but doesnt mean 625 UX is worse off than a 820 phone such as leeco that one as long as the 625 all factors r in harmony like iphone their os just helped their low ram significantly, it may not have high antutu if ever applicable. but antutu (2) 625 4G will higher than 625 2G Ram cuz the ram helped. n usually a 835 will higher antutu than 620 hp at same ram or even 620 higher ram than the 835 cuz 835 is just too much to pull the gap for 620 so it is EXPECTED (suggestive, not conclusive) the 835 to be better overall performance than 620 just like a (3) 300hp car> 250hp but putting the 300hp car to a 100hp car will be conclusive like SND 835 vs 620 hp...so antutu will be suggestive or conclusive depending on the which phone u r putting against refer back to eg. 1 ,2,3...

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Feb 26 2017, 12:58 AM)
i agree antutu is not conclusive to gauge an overall performance of a smartphone flagship or not, just like a car hp, horsepower alone doesnt tell the whole picture there r other factors as well, weight, engine, aerodynamics, etc. but if putting a 300 hp car (SND 835) with a 150hp (SND 620), obviously hp alone is conclusive unless the 300hp car manufacturer has completely no idea what it is doing. the high SND 835, cant be possible the ram n other UI r not streamline to send high antutu reading for its 835 SND. its a no brainer.

imho antutu just give a surface yet rather relevant performance of a smartphone though not overall cuz there r other elements like UI, OS, Ram but it is rather suggestive in my opinion because the UI, os ram efficiency do (minimally) contribute to the antutu reading (thus, narrow) result thats why i believe antutu is a reflective of the smartphone performance but not conclusive because it doesnt translate to UX (user experience) suggestive in the sense that, pound for pound, it is sufficient for a modest match (relatively reliable result)....say, same spec hp, then antutu is a relevant derivative of the sum of the respective phone because the antutu reading is part outcome of the ui, os, ram etc.

so to me, i would read antutu reading as a relevant but not conclusive factor albeit proc segment alone is more

relevant/distinctive to antutu i.e Antutu reading surely higher for (1) SND 820 to 625 but doesnt mean 625 UX is worse off than a 820 phone such as leeco that one as long as the 625 all factors r in harmony like iphone their os just helped their low ram significantly, it may not have high antutu if ever applicable. but antutu (2) 625 4G will higher than 625 2G Ram cuz the ram helped. n usually a 835 will higher antutu than 620 hp at same ram or even 620 higher ram than the 835 cuz 835 is just too much to pull the gap for 620 so it is EXPECTED (suggestive, not conclusive) the 835 to be better overall performance than 620 just like a (3) 300hp car> 250hp but putting the 300hp car to a 100hp car will be conclusive like SND 835 vs 620 hp...so antutu will be suggestive or conclusive depending on the which phone u r putting against refer back to eg. 1 ,2,3...
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Fully agreed plus adding on the fact that manufacturers mess with antutu to get higher speed rests. In your explanation you can't expect the higher hp car with full rpm to hold on n keep up that speed ALL the time. The engine will seize aka cpu will get so hot that it will eventually throttle. Smartphones have better cooling now but it is no where close to what antutu does to phones to get that higher score. Problem is some manufacturers are doing n some aren't. But dont get me wrong, im not saying sd625 is the best. But looking at all aspects it puts some high end soc's on shame for now.

I'd say again antutu is for kids, infact people who base their conclusions on antutu, i find them cute.
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post Feb 26 2017, 06:14 AM

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It's already a known fact SD625 is not as powerful as 650 if all things else created equal. However 625 is more power efficient than 650 and can perform most basic tasks adequately. Even Antutu 10k+ isn't that big of a deal.
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Feb 26 2017, 12:58 AM)
i agree antutu is not conclusive to gauge an overall performance of a smartphone flagship or not, just like a car hp, horsepower alone doesnt tell the whole picture there r other factors as well, weight, engine, aerodynamics, etc. but if putting a 300 hp car (SND 835) with a 150hp (SND 620), obviously hp alone is conclusive unless the 300hp car manufacturer has completely no idea what it is doing. the high SND 835, cant be possible the ram n other UI r not streamline to send high antutu reading for its 835 SND. its a no brainer.

imho antutu just give a surface yet rather relevant performance of a smartphone though not overall cuz there r other elements like UI, OS, Ram but it is rather suggestive in my opinion because the UI, os ram efficiency do (minimally) contribute to the antutu reading (thus, narrow) result thats why i believe antutu is a reflective of the smartphone performance but not conclusive because it doesnt translate to UX (user experience) suggestive in the sense that, pound for pound, it is sufficient for a modest match (relatively reliable result)....say, same spec hp, then antutu is a relevant derivative of the sum of the respective phone because the antutu reading is part outcome of the ui, os, ram etc.

so to me, i would read antutu reading as a relevant but not conclusive factor albeit proc segment alone is more

relevant/distinctive to antutu i.e Antutu reading surely higher for (1) SND 820 to 625 but doesnt mean 625 UX is worse off than a 820 phone such as leeco that one as long as the 625 all factors r in harmony like iphone their os just helped their low ram significantly, it may not have high antutu if ever applicable. but antutu (2) 625 4G will higher than 625 2G Ram cuz the ram helped. n usually a 835 will higher antutu than 620 hp at same ram or even 620 higher ram than the 835 cuz 835 is just too much to pull the gap for 620 so it is EXPECTED (suggestive, not conclusive) the 835 to be better overall performance than 620 just like a (3) 300hp car> 250hp but putting the 300hp car to a 100hp car will be conclusive like SND 835 vs 620 hp...so antutu will be suggestive or conclusive depending on the which phone u r putting against refer back to eg. 1 ,2,3...
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It is conclusive. SD650 is really faster.

QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 26 2017, 04:09 AM)
Fully agreed plus adding on the fact that manufacturers mess with antutu to get higher speed rests. In your explanation you can't expect the higher hp car with full rpm to hold on n keep up that speed ALL the time. The engine will seize aka cpu will get so hot that it will eventually throttle. Smartphones have better cooling now but it is no where close to what antutu does to phones to get that higher score. Problem is some manufacturers are doing n some aren't. But dont get me wrong, im not saying sd625 is the best. But looking at all aspects it puts some high end soc's on shame for now.

I'd say again antutu is for kids, infact people who base their conclusions on antutu, i find them cute.
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Nowadays no one mess with Antutu. SD650 really faster. SD625 is just A53 on steroid. Not efficient one. Very bad single core performance.
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judging by antutu scores is like saying a V8 mustang is a better car than a 2 liter miata.
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Look it as this way, 625 power efficient, while 650 series is performing efficient.

Btw rom optimisation and lightweight is also a reason. For p2 case, it's rom is lightweight vs rn3pro, mi max, a9 pro, s7e, zen3max, (miui, touch wiz and etc)
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Feb 26 2017, 08:45 AM)
judging by antutu scores is like saying a V8 mustang is a better car than a 2 liter miata.
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OT:

The so-called "the world's most secure Android" for RM2,599 (my hypothesis...)
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Snap625 is getting lots of manufacturers attention in order to gain massive profit.

By claiming "The world's most secure Android", putting the Google Pixel, Sammy S8, LG G6, P2, etc can be hacked anytime...What a marketing stunt Mr Berry...

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 26 2017, 11:08 AM)


Snap625 is getting lots of manufacturers attention in order to gain massive profit.


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Snap625 is considered "flagship SoC" in Berry KEYone...

That is awkward...
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