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Lenovo Lenovo P2 Chat V1:Snap625 AMOLED 4GB/32GB 5100mAh, Throw away powerbanks & car chargers !!!

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post Feb 2 2017, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(supersaiyanmomo @ Feb 2 2017, 11:35 AM)
In my opinion, P2 slightly slower compare to stolen Xioami Mi Max.
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Of course. P2 AnTuTu is 60k while MiMax is 80k. Luckily you are coming from Mi Max. If you are from Redmi Note 4 with X20 (AnTuTu 90k), you are almost slow down by half by downgrade from Redmi Note 4 to P2.

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post Feb 2 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 2 2017, 02:54 PM)
Anywhere you go, Pixel 2 is always there with you....LOL...
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Very blurry photo. My Redmi Note 3 is took better photo than this. Maybe it's user problem.

QUOTE(supersaiyanmomo @ Feb 2 2017, 03:07 PM)
I was pointing to Gaming smile.gif But for internet usage, either Xioami Mi Max or Lenovo P2 doesn't have any lag/performance drop.

If watch movie/streaming/gaming, in my opinion Xioami Mi Max performance better then Lenovo P2. Other then that, on-par excluding for Lenovo P2 camera > Xioami Mi Max camera.
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Yes, SD625 only good for normally web surfing and WhatsApp. It's using A53 core which is same as what used in Mi4i. Mi4i is universally panned as the worst performing phone ever. I thought P2 will continue to hold the performance torch for Mi4i. I am only partially right. Luckily P2 have 5000mAH which is great for light user. Performance is OK because frequency is increased.
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post Feb 2 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersaiyanmomo @ Feb 2 2017, 03:13 PM)
I need to get a second device/phone to cover the "audio recording bug/features" of Lenovo P2 for video+audio recording purposed.

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Maybe Huawei Mate 9 or Samsung S7 Edge or something?
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iPhone 7 plus is better all around device. iPhone 7 plus kill all Android phone for video recording. It is way too far for Android to catch up.
For photography, S7 edge or pixel can fight with iPhone 7 plus.
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post Feb 2 2017, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 2 2017, 04:29 PM)
The performance difference of the soc between mi4i and p2 is day and night imo. Non comparable. P2 soc 625 imo in real term usuage is just slightly slower than soc 650.
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I agree due to double RAM and higher frequency. 77k vs 60k in AnTuTu might be slight depending on your usage.

QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 2 2017, 04:37 PM)
That was taken when P2 was in deep sleep... just double-click the volume button and it snaps in less than 2 seconds....Hence, I don't bother to check whether blur or not as it is merely from sleep... Always do this after I parked my car. Just double-click the volume button and I know where I park my car edy.....no need to tap-to-focus laaa.... unlock the device laaa... too slow "experience"....No point having powerful chipset if the "experience" is horrible...

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Depend on what you want though. Experience is relative.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 2 2017, 04:47 PM)
I have Parkinson decease... I do have shaky hands... thus, the camera in P2 does no good to me anyhow... only my Note5 is my pure camera galore ...LOL...
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Sorry my bad.
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post Feb 2 2017, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 2 2017, 05:07 PM)
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LoL kay
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QUOTE(starship1 @ Feb 2 2017, 07:30 PM)
a big statement there mate. AnTuTu ,they are only numbers after all and have no bearing whatsoever on real world usage.

you are almost slow down by half by downgrade from Redmi Note 4 to P2 ??- dont make me laugh.

the Xiaomi Note series even up to the latest generation, is only a phone for the budget conscious buyer or for those who want a stand-by with a rather long battery life.the RN3 and RN4 serve its purpose by being a very reasonably price phone but overall,both simply lacks the P2 more premium user experience feel.the overall built quality ,screen display,music and movie audio output quality with DAC and AMP,expansion slot versatility,RAM  and a much improve UI make it on par with some flagships model.many people think the P2 is only about a big arse battery where infact it has much more to offer.

Xiaomi created and marketed them for a reason, to dump this 2 bugger into the market to kick its competitor nose ,making them hard to breathe ,to boost sales figure and thus better phone manufacturers sales ranking placement knowing well they dont bring much if any profits at all.

i have tested the RN3 for a week which i bought for my sis,one unit which i sent in for repair was meant for Singapore market but ship here probably to dump here cheaply (i have no complaints as the warranty was honored )and also use the Mi5 Prime 64gb for 2 months and although the Mi5 can hold its own on performance ,it is just a light and smallish phones and it could serve no other purpose especially ,media consumption.although it has the SD820, honestly ,i feel no difference in performance at all when compare to the P2.so to me after comparing ,SD 820 or whatever dont matter or hold any water except for those who care for paper specs ,are rich or are deluded and/or  wannabe youtube or internet reviewer.i must admit it is fun to watch and read though, as they took turns to justify those numbers and colorful charts  which in the end have no bearing in everyday use.cant blame them as many of them need to be seen as a PRO in writing,talking and drawing something.

i guess you just pluck those numbers from there and paste it here and try to make a statement just by those silly numbers. ahhh....if only ,buying and selling smartphones can be this silly, simple and easy
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The reason you don't feel different because you are light user. You like P2 because you like the design, the battery and the higher price. If you buy Redmi Note 4 which is faster than P2 by half, you feel ashamed because it's so cheap. I get it. You are rich. You need to act rich.
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post Feb 3 2017, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(starship1 @ Feb 2 2017, 11:15 PM)
how do you know i am a light user on the P2? what makes you think i like the design and the higher price ? who said the RN4 is faster than P2 by half? you kah ? 

like many others ,though i can afford more expensive phones  .i will only buy phones i deem most suitable for me and me only.although the RN4 is cheaper ,i have my reasons for choosing the P2 and why should i be ashamed of myself if i were to use the RN4.because you say so ah

who are you to tell me and imposed your will on this thread, the RN4 is faster than the P2 by half and blah blah blah
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Redmi Note 4 is faster than P2 by way of benchmark. This is more realistic way instead of just using feeling which is subjective to bias.
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post Feb 5 2017, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 5 2017, 08:08 PM)
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Source : Malaysianwireless.com

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Hard to say. Maybe they no longer use adups but kernel level snooping. cool2.gif
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post Feb 9 2017, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 9 2017, 12:12 AM)
The first pix
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P2 camera is terrible. Note 5 way better. Based on ur pix.

QUOTE(apecorp @ Feb 9 2017, 08:18 AM)
Is coming frm oneplus1 to p2 considered an upgrade or downgrade? Performance wise in processing.
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OP1 so old. Sure upgrade but nearer to sidegrade. 60k Antutu.
Redmi Note 4 with MTK is real upgrade with Antutu 90k. Cheaper too by almost half.
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post Feb 9 2017, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 9 2017, 09:01 AM)
hows the camera of RN4 vs mi max/rn3 pro bos
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RN4 better because using Sony sensor. Redmi Note 4 with MTK X20 at 90k AnTuTu and better camera totally destroy Mi Max/RN3/P2.
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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Feb 9 2017, 10:58 AM)
noted, later i tested side to side with my fren rn4 and my mi max  blush.gif
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Sure laugh.gif post photo here and tag me. Pls use auto and manual mode ya.
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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 9 2017, 09:03 PM)
For people who make final conclusions about soc performance based on antutu. Please check the link below.

https://youtu.be/ZGYtlwJwfvQ

Hopefully i dont see anyone now boasting about antutu scores as real life usage is very different. Also fyi MTK soc isn't famous on real term usuage performance and batttery life when compared to Snapdragon.
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Final conclusion must be made based on Antutu because real life usage is very subjective. Hopefully I won't see anyone boasting about real life usage because that is your usage and not mine.

MTK X20 not famous but kick SD625 down the drain. Famous or not is not the point here. We are not fanboy. But technology enthusiast.

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Feb 9 2017, 09:56 PM)
And antutu isnt subjective? If you call yourself an tech enthusiast, that's funny. The link i shared is one video. Please research more. I never said SD625 is faster than mtk X20. I just said mtk has performance issues generally and isnt power efficient as Snapdragon.

Once again antutu can never be used to make final conclusion on real use smartphone performance.
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Of course isn't subjective. You run and I run also get same Antutu score if we holding same handphone.
You said MTK not famous. Dont deviate. Also X20 have improve tremendously over old MTK SoC. If you are enthusiast, you know instead of talking nonsense here. Don't waste time watching those real life video because its subjective to the reviewer. Should make final decision on Antutu alone.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 10:42 AM)
Landscape scenes time...

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P2 vs Note5

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Which one is P2 and which one is Note5?
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post Feb 10 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 10:46 AM)
Post #1702
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P2 (4.0x max) vs Note5 (8.0 max)

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Bottom one better. The top one noise reduction smearing the image.
So which one is P2?
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post Feb 10 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 10:42 AM)
Landscape scenes time...

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P2 vs Note5

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The same smearing happen in top photo.
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 10:53 AM)
All 1st pix is P2. Remember that I have Parkinson decease.... :\
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Smearing have nothing to do with parkinson disease. Do not blame P2 bad camera to yourself. Blame it on Lenovo. devil.gif
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:08 AM)
Me if not happy, I'll quickly sell the unit. Just like what happened to hot-selling models like RN3P.

But this P2 is giving me  experiences beyond my expectations. So, it's a keeper...
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RM1200 compare to RM800. So you paid 50% more with lower CPU and smearing still happen in your photo. The only thing better is 5000mAH but its useless sometimes because 4050mAH battery in RNP3 already enough for 1 day for heavy usage. Normally we charge phone everyday anyway. smile.gif Also AMOLED is great! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:40 AM)
I'm doing Uber and Grab as my past-time hobby with my Prius... So, using navi for more than 6 hours without charging is a must which RN3P failed due to overheating after 30 minutes Navi...Got 2 units... 32GB imported and the 16GB Malaysia set... Both overheated after prolong Navi...Sad but that's the reality...
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Didn't know that you're doing that. My bad.

I'm sure you can rig it so that RN3P can sit in front of an aircond. Direct sun sure overheat. P2 under direct sun and GPS will probably not long eventhough it does not overheat. But I'm sure AMOLED display is better than the sunlight display in RN3P.

Conclusion: P2 is better suited for your usage.

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