"value for money" is relative.

i know a number of khs owners, buy bikes which normally we would consider "value for money". retailed lower than other major brands, good discounts, great spec. less than 3 months of use, their bikes got major problem. everytime kayuh, got major clunking noise every few seconds. turned out, freehub body wobbled badly. each bike same problem. asked shop, shop said not covered under warranty. freehub cheapo, cannot be removed and replaced. so only solution, buy new hub or wheelset.

a mechanic friend told me, khs bikes good value in terms of groupsets packaged with their bikes. but other components buyers like u usually overlook, they put on cheapo parts. and the frame oso heavy. pipu see groupset gooding, terus beli.

so... again, "value for money"?

except the fork (which is unknown for me) and also the frame (which is also i have no idea)

Thanks for your input. Guess polygon is a better option to go minus the groupset.

check out lapierre @ fooksang. got gooding sale

I'm totally new on this.. My only knowledge is from google..
Once I start to venture into this, then only will I know whether I'll invest more in future.. Or it will just be a leisure past time for me.

Honestly I think most people can't tell the difference between Deore, SLX or XT. Me included. Some claim XT is "smoother and faster" but try to ask them to do a blind test with all 3 groupsets. I wonder how many can actually identify which is which. Lol. 

I think best option for you now is not to buy new. Go to bicyclebuysell.com and look at 2nd hand bikes within your budget and area. Find something you like and nego kau kau. Buy it and ride it until you get the itch to upgrade... or get bored of it and keep it in your house for the next 6 months. 

Honestly I think most people can't tell the difference between Deore, SLX or XT. Me included. Some claim XT is "smoother and faster" but try to ask them to do a blind test with all 3 groupsets. I wonder how many can actually identify which is which. Lol. 

I think best option for you now is not to buy new. Go to bicyclebuysell.com and look at 2nd hand bikes within your budget and area. Find something you like and nego kau kau. Buy it and ride it until you get the itch to upgrade... or get bored of it and keep it in your house for the next 6 months. 

Thanks for your feedback. I did search around BBS.
Problem is, I don't know whether the price they offer is good or not.
Besides, I don't even know how to check whether the bike is in good condition or the parts are correct.
Easier get scam for newbies like me..

if you decided to get siskiu, then should be no problem
when sudah bosan can upgrade lighter air fork + lighter wheelset

my 1st bike is deore
never ride xt xtr
my guess only 1) efficient gear shift?  2) lighter <- these mainly i heard from fellow seasoned rider
just my opinion here for new bike since it come with better model
but for frame not easy to guess unless ride it and feel the weight

Checked but the price is more than my budget..
Besides I am from penang.

Maybe you could drop by at Liim Bicycle Shop located just Sunshine square.
36, Jalan Mayang Pasir, Bayan Baru, 11950, Penang, Malaysia

guys can recommend me a front light for night riding? there's so many of those china brand selling locally but i prefer something that lasts, bright and doesn't break the bank.

my 1st bike is deore
never ride xt xtr
my guess only 1) efficient gear shift?  2) lighter <- these mainly i heard from fellow seasoned rider
just my opinion here for new bike since it come with better model
but for frame not easy to guess unless ride it and feel the weight

actually.. haven't make up my mind.. so many brand n diff specs/etc to choose..
main thing.. budget is limitted.. lol

another brand exitway.. should I explore this as well? or just put it aside.

guys can recommend me a front light for night riding? there's so many of those china brand selling locally but i prefer something that lasts, bright and doesn't break the bank.

I'm using this brand called Moon. Check it out. Price is quite decent. I bought from K2C in Sunway. I've also bought those cheap China lights that you connect to an external batt from BBS. Still working well and bright as hell.

for onroad only or offroad?

Here are the spec
-mosso 985xc 29"
-shimano deore with 3 x 10 gear (not sure the details)
-tektro draco hyraulic brake
-truvativ stylo t10 handle bar
-schwalbe rapid rob tyre
-inferno25 rims
-srsuntour shock (dont know the details)