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post Feb 8 2007, 05:36 PM, updated 19y ago

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Old thread has a lot of information, do visit it eventhough old.
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Gerbil information:
The gerbils I have are Mongolian Gerbils. They are pretty easy to care for and are generally more active and are friendlier than hamsters.

Gerbils make great pets for older children and adults. Tame and friendly, gerbils rarely bite or never bite at all. Once a while they do nip to test their surroundings or to give you a warning. Nipping is not painful.
Gerbils need to live in pairs, same sex pairs or mating pairs because they will become depressed and lonely. Aggressive and possive gerbils do occur and they should live solitarily once you find out they hate other gerbils but you as an owner need to give more attention to a single gerbil.

Why a pair? Well, gerbils are colony animals. They need to feel safe and secure in a family. Once they are alone, they become depress and will be destructive by chewing on everything they find, tend to dig at the tank's corners the whole day without stop, show nervousness and other unhealthy activities.

Gerbils do not have odours, the males have a bit but you will never notice it at all. They are clean, not smelly. They do not urinate much coz they are desert animals and do not consume much water. You still need to provide clean drinking water to them. If your gerbil doesn't like water, provide more leafy vegetables and fruits(non-citrius) for them to consume.

Gerbils are very hardy, they do not easily get sick. Gerbils can have allergy reactions to beddings. Always provide the best dustless beddings. Do go for some brands like Chipsi Classic/Super, Aspen shavings, corn cob... DO NOT USE CEDAR OR PINE!!!! These woods can cause serious health damage to all small animals.
The bedding needs to be changed once a week. The most is once every 2 weeks. The best bedding for gerbils is providing them with a mix. They and mix :

Hay(timothy or any bedding hay)
Wood shavings
Wood chips/corn cob
Paper(tissue or plain white shredded paper)

This mix will provide the best digging mix for a gerbil. You will need to fill up about 8cm of bedding cause gerbils are DIGGERS! They need to dig and make tunnels and burrows to satisfy their natural instinct.

How about breeding?
Please see the link below... breeding is not easy as it will cost money and time and space. So think carefully before breeding. Also, it takes a lot of studying of the genetics to get the best colour quality from a pair. Some gerbils can only produce black and agouti pups.... so that is why the genetics have to be studied. Breeding needs a goal, to be a breeder one must never think of money but the goal of getting new colours or promoting the pet. If any information needed on breeding, PM Nezumitaro, jaswwp or me(crazymouse_yyh)

You CANNOT pull their tails or it will come off. No, gerbils are not lizards, they come off coz their tails have very sensitive nerves and skin, pulling hard can detached the bone and tear the skin, resulting in the lost of a tail.


Important stuff to have before getting a gerbil:

1.5ft Aquarium with lid- you can get plastic or glass, plastic is easier to clean. The bigger, the better. (rm30 to rm40 for plastic) DO NOT CAGE THEM! Examples:
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Hamster staple food- Any brand would do but best is Hagen to me. Gerbils prefer food mix with more grains and nuts than pellets.

Treats- Wooden chews, peanuts, dog biscuits and bread are great treats.

Water bottle- They need a bottle but if you don't want them to tear the bottle up, searh the internet for tips on making a bottle guard or cage. I feed my gerbils water using a bowl and watch them drink their fill and take away he bowl. Gerbils do not need much water if you feed them fruits and vege often.

Vege and fruits- Important to have in their diet. Give mustard greens(Sawi/Choy Sum), apples and carrots, french beans, lettuce. PUMPKIN makes an excellent treat!!! It deworms the intestines as well.

Toys- Gerbils love wooden stuff to chew, cardboard box to chew and glass cups and small clay flower pots to play in. Do not buy plastic toys coz they will chew them and you will waste your money.

Hide Box- Gerbils like to sleep in hide boxes. You can DIY one from an old coconut shell, buy a wooden one or plainly make one out from wooden ice cream sticks and PVA glue.

Wood Shavings and Wood Chips- No pine or cedar, please use aspen shavings or chipsi wood shavings. Pine and Cedar will cause breathing problems and watery eyes. Wood Chips are a good substitute if you can't find proper wood shavings.

Timothy Hay- Gerbils love hay. They chew it, build nest with it and sleep in it.

Alfalfa Hay- High in protein and is still good for gerbils to nibble and chew and make their nest.

Sand Bath- When your gerbil's fur looks ruffled and dull, give them a sand bath. You can get this cleaning sand that is for hamsters, works well and will make a gerbil look all velvety and clean looking.

Bedding Hay/Straw- You can try Russel Hay or Sluis Comfort Hay. These hay are used to build nest... cheaper than Timothy and Alfalfa hay.... and smells nice too.

Updated!!!!!


I do not give out mating pairs. Strictly only single sex pairs.

I will only consider letting go breeding pairs if you can convince me you are a good keeper.

Those in the waiting list, if you are thinking twice about gerbils, do inform me. PM me for more info.

- Gerbils like to have friends. So get them a playmate. A pair at least.

- Only have single sex gerbil clans unless you want to breed. You would need a lot of tanks to breed gerbils.

- Gerbils like wooden toys and hides to feel secure and healthy.

- Never mix gerbils with other small rodents like rats, mice or hamsters.... there may be casualties later on.

- Never give plastic to gerbils, they will chew it to bits and may ingest some which could cause a health problem.

- Gerbils are not nocturnal, there are awake throughout the day, with naps in between.

- Provide extra protein for gerbils with cooked egg, mealworms and crickets.

- Food such as lentils, wheat germ, rolled oats, rice, pasta, oat biscuits, dog and cat kibble, bird seeds are good food for gerbils.


Useful Websites:

http://www.sensi-media.com/gerbil/domestic.htm - thanks to Jaswwp

http://www.gerbils.co.uk/

http://www.abcgerbils.com/

http://www.agsgerbils.org/

http://www.petermaas.nl/gerbils/english.htm

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/e...bils/colors.htm

http://www.gerbilbreeding.com/gene.htm - thanks to Nezumitaro

http://home.wtal.de/ehr/gerbils/colors.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/6961/index.html

~ Quote Crazymouse_yyh


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post Feb 8 2007, 05:36 PM

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Yay its up !

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SEXING GERBIL:
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WE HAVE GERBILS IN VARIOUS COLOURS AS BELOW:

Black Eyed, White Belly

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Black Eyed, Solid Belly

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Ruby Eyed, White Belly


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Ruby Eyed, Solid Belly

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post Feb 8 2007, 05:42 PM

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Basic Cost:

Plastic Tank: 1.5ft - $28; 2ft -$38
Bedding (recommend Chipsi Classic/Super or Corn Cob): $18 - $25
Hay (Alfafa or Thimoty): $12 - $20
Food: Hamster food. $8 - $20+ depand on brand. (Nezumitaro's Gerbil love Prestige Hamster Nature $17+.)
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Water Bottle: $7 - $20 depand on brand.
Toy: Paper Box, Cardboard, Manila Cardboard, toilet roll / kitchen towel tube.


Home Sweet Home:

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1. How to DIY a water bottle hanger

One of the popular problems faced by gerbil owners is the issue of how to provide a source of water for gerbils. Although a dish can be used, but most of the time the gerbil will bury the dish in shavings, making the bedding wet. It is important for a gerbil to have water especially if it is pregnant or nursing. Gerbils have been known to reabsorb fetuses or even eat a pup to get the water it needs if water is not provided.

There are many types of bottles available on the market. If you are able to find a bottle with those suckers or those that stick to the tank wall then it is good, however sometimes the gerbils will chew the suckers or the water bottle itself.
If you have the type of bottle that points downwards, you can hang it from the tank cover, however if you have the normal type of bottle, the kind without a small hole at the top for you to hang wire through..you might have to make a bottle holder yourself.

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Water bottle with no hole at the top provided.
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Water bottle with hole provided at the top
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2. How to make a split cage

Why need a split cage? Note that gerbils have very short memories and can forget their friends in 3 days or even less. If you have to seperate your gerbils because of breeding but wish to reintroduce them at a later date, you should use a split cage so that they can still see and smell each other. New gerbils can also be introduced in this way for a few days, so that there is less chance of fighting when you finally put them together. Remember that gerbils can fight to the death, dont think that they look so loving and tame to their friends, once they see an unknown gerbil they can fight viciously and cause very serious wounds. I'm speaking from experience here.

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This is the simplest split cage you can make for a plastic tank. The sides are rubber hose split into half, the purpose is so that you can wedge the whole thing into the tank, and it wont move or slip. Remember that plastic tanks are wider at the top than at the bottom, so you have to take that into account when cutting and bending the wire mesh. Try to use metal wire mesh with small holes, with big holes the gerbils will keep on chewing at it, and hurt their noses. Make sure it is tall enough, gerbils can climb up the split and crawl through any small spaces at the top.


3. Alternative to tanks

Gerbils given birth and you want to seperate the dad from the mum? Or perhaps your gerbil has fallen sick and you want to seperate it from the other healthy ones temporarily. If you can't get a tank at short notice, you can use a storage box

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This is just to give a general idea. Note that the top should be securely fastened, else the gerbil will escape. Usually I put the storage box lid on top covering half the wire, and something heavy on top, but more pegs should do the trick as well.
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post Feb 8 2007, 05:54 PM

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Gerbil Keepers:
1. Crazymouse_yyh
2. jaswwp
3. nezumitaro
4. hao
5. readix
6. Prelude23
7. casablanca
8. Suet
9. Smellyocheese
10. Emino
11. kembara
12. dien
13. zoejehuty
14. Shinobi
15. Eyerule
16. Enigmatic
17. Reanne
18. Rena_Blue
20. raist86
21. euross

continue at home ya tongue.gif

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post Feb 8 2007, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 8 2007, 06:54 PM)
Gerbil Keepers:

1. Suet
2. Smellyocheese
3. Emino
4. readix
5. hamster9
6. zoejehuty
7. Shinobi
8. Eyerule
9. Enigmatic
10. Reanne
11. Rena_Blue
12. NZX
13. raist86
14. euross

continue at home ya tongue.gif
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waa you miss my name aaa...
and dien too..add la..add..hahah

btw to nezumitaro the founder of mongolian gerbil in malaysia congratulation for the fourth thread.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif but without us there were no even second thread rite hahahah tongue.gif

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kembara, be patient lar... wait she goes back first... hahahaha
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post Feb 8 2007, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 8 2007, 07:28 PM)
kembara, be patient lar... wait she goes back first... hahahaha
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cannot patient la so exited
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 8 2007, 06:30 PM)
cannot patient la so exited
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Guess she's back d... whistling.gif
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post Feb 8 2007, 06:40 PM

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i am back home!! HAHAHA the list i copy n paste only... tonight i will make it again
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post Feb 8 2007, 06:40 PM

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she miss me too cry.gif
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 8 2007, 06:40 PM)
she miss me too cry.gif
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Wa... on her way back only half to one an hour only... so fast miss you d ar?? then you miss her or not during that time? brows.gif
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sweat.gif swt... speechless
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 8 2007, 06:59 PM)
sweat.gif swt... speechless
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foo, you even spell your own nick incorrectly doh.gif
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foo, ur house got security alarm?? i think there'll be some gerbil thieves coming soon.......

congrats on V4!!

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wah.. already v 4!!
congrate for gerbil lovers..
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post Feb 8 2007, 08:15 PM

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hahah where you house foo..i am looking for male gerbil now..for free one hehehe..you must train taro as guard dog from now aa
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here, some pictures of my new gerbil..
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Attached Image sleeping ZzZzZz...

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QUOTE(emino @ Feb 8 2007, 07:18 PM)
Look at me. Lucky number 10 biggrin.gif! subscribing!
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lol i just dump in... pls let me know who i miss out ok! thanks alot
QUOTE(hao @ Feb 8 2007, 07:34 PM)
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foo, you even spell your own nick incorrectly doh.gif
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LOL in rush lah.. later i edit tongue.gif thanks!

QUOTE(readix @ Feb 8 2007, 08:00 PM)
foo, ur house got security alarm?? i think there'll be some gerbil thieves coming soon.......

congrats on V4!!
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cool.gif alarm piu piu piu piu...

QUOTE(dien @ Feb 8 2007, 09:48 PM)
here, some pictures of my new gerbil..
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Attached Image sleeping ZzZzZz...
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ohh new gerbils where from?looks white n grey?
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Hahah... i edited the 1st post liao. Thank you Foo for opening new thread.

Anyway, 1st page is best place for the basic and important information. If need be, I would edit the simple chat postings to information on gerbils.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 8 2007, 10:50 PM)
Hahah... i edited the 1st post liao. Thank you Foo for opening new thread.

Anyway, 1st page is best place for the basic and important information. If need be, I would edit the simple chat postings to information on gerbils.
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thanks! aiyoh kelang kaput lah hahaha..
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post Feb 8 2007, 11:09 PM

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looks like a crossbreed between hamster and mouse
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 8 2007, 10:55 PM)
thanks! aiyoh kelang kaput lah hahaha..
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Yah loh... a bit kelang kabut hahahah...

QUOTE(SailorMercury @ Feb 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
looks like a crossbreed between hamster and mouse
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Well, they do look that way hahaha... but then gerbils make nicer pets than hamsters tongue.gif
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i dunno...
it looks like....
can run very fast...
its kinda troublesome to keep fast pet
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post Feb 8 2007, 11:32 PM

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Congratz on 4th thread ya....
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QUOTE(SailorMercury @ Feb 8 2007, 11:16 PM)
i dunno...
it looks like....
can run very fast...
its kinda troublesome to keep fast pet
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troublesome? means??? fast not active n fun ? hehhhe... fast but tamed.. so no problem

QUOTE(babymoli @ Feb 8 2007, 11:32 PM)
Congratz on 4th thread ya....
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im bring my gerbils back to kuantan for CNY~~ anyone travelling with their babies??

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post Feb 9 2007, 12:04 AM

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readix u very bad one lah.. bully me!!! i ask taro bite ur butt!
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where got bully u? lol... give taro some biscuits n he'll be happy.... CNY soon.... "kelang" kabut la~~
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 8 2007, 11:45 PM)
troublesome? means??? fast not active n fun ? hehhhe... fast but tamed.. so no problem
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imagine u drop them from yur hand and u lost sight of them by the time u tried to catch them...
i lost few of my hamster that way...
so now i always feed them till fat fat.....
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post Feb 9 2007, 09:32 AM

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congrats everyone for the 'new home of gerbils'...

p/s: need to have my own gerbils, then only can really feel the JOY...
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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 12:11 AM)
where got bully u? lol... give taro some biscuits n he'll be happy.... CNY soon.... "kelang" kabut la~~
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READIX!!!! u ready bad now ah!! when u come to give me ang pao? taro also want ang pao!

QUOTE(SailorMercury @ Feb 9 2007, 12:33 AM)
imagine u drop them from yur hand and u lost sight of them by the time u tried to catch them...
i lost few of my hamster that way...
so now i always feed them till fat fat.....
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oh dear, u drop ur hammi then canot catch back ah? on the spot also can lost them? hammi so fast meh? i never hv hammi b4... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 9 2007, 09:32 AM)
congrats everyone for the 'new home of gerbils'...

p/s: need to have my own gerbils, then only can really feel the JOY...
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yes new house for everyone! hehe


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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 11:19 AM)


Added on February 9, 2007, 10:40 amsome photos

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nezu.......stop poisoning me aaa... drool.gif i want fat gerbilss....... cry.gif
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what do u feed them foo?! they're really fat!!
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foo my gerbil can fight wif urs too... mine also damn fat... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 9 2007, 11:36 AM)
nezu.......stop poisoning me aaa... drool.gif i want fat gerbilss....... cry.gif
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hahahahha..... thats my main purpose flex.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 12:10 PM)
what do u feed them foo?! they're really fat!!
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prestige + britter bunny + chinese almond+ vege powder+kibbles + .... hahahhaha alot ler.. but the main meal is prestige..
Readix u long time no login ler, i got new cam lu hehehe.. got new pic also ler... showu one that i post b4..

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 9 2007, 12:30 PM)
foo my gerbil can fight wif urs too... mine also damn fat... biggrin.gif
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LOL thats cool!! yeah i think ur DEH should be a fat so!

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so cute... line up n sleep~

wah... foo's pics very nice now!!canon powershot A710S?i think tmr i'll go kidnap some babies from u. want to steal some food also! hao wanna go? lol


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waw these 3 fela so fan ah? sleep together.. they make the cage like their house huh? hahhaha so cute!!! i was some big one in PJ old town ah.. i want to buy few more this cage.. make good toy too
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waaa...
v4 already...
so fast one...
ehehehehe..
tomorrow go n look look for the cage..
than go do some kidnapping.. muahahahahaha ;p
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lol kaylong is an other notty one hahahha... kaylong bring gf also huh?? hehehhehe..... sweet gal.. u go use gerbil scare her ah?

ok all the cert r ready hehehe...
kaylong u hvn't tell me what u want for the tiny pack ah? half half ah?

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 01:44 PM)
waw these 3 fela so fan ah? sleep together.. they make the cage like their house huh? hahhaha so cute!!! i was some big one in PJ old town ah.. i want to buy few more this cage.. make good toy too
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they forgot that cage used to be their jail when they were naughty!! laugh.gif
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wah... foo's pics very nice now!!canon powershot A710S?i think tmr i'll go kidnap some babies from u. want to steal some food also! hao wanna go? lol
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now we hv kaylong n hao.... wow.... anyone wanna go to foo's tmr?? kidnap gerbils!! i think foo "kelang" kabut d!!! i think she'll pack her gerbils n move somewhere else tonite!! laugh.gif

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Later go buy treats to bribe Taro... then Taro will help us carry the gerbils... muahahaha...
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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 02:24 PM)
they forgot that cage used to be their jail when they were naughty!!  laugh.gif
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LOL... i think so hahha..

QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 02:35 PM)
now we hv kaylong n hao.... wow.... anyone wanna go to foo's tmr?? kidnap gerbils!! i think foo "kelang" kabut d!!! i think she'll pack her gerbils n move somewhere else tonite!! laugh.gif
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wawwww.... vmad.gif

QUOTE(hao @ Feb 9 2007, 02:38 PM)
Later go buy treats to bribe Taro... then Taro will help us carry the gerbils... muahahaha...
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ah hao u also ah!!

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hey readix u sure coming ah? hahahha..

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arraille y u r in all black u kiwi ah?
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 03:15 PM)
arraille y u r in all black u kiwi ah?
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lol i see hahahaha..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 8 2007, 11:47 PM)
looks white n grey?
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nezu, i dont know la what color.. still new in the gerbil arena.. hehe..
what i know, she is white color..
hmm.gif what color exactly is she??

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so cute... line up n sleep~
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so, cute gerbils..
even sleeping pun sempat posing.. tongue.gif
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canot see very clear in pic ah... i see like white white but there is rew pink eye white n also dark tailw hite, also ivory


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have to take more clear pictures ler.. hehe..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 02:18 PM)
hahahahha..... thats my main purpose  flex.gif  whistling.gif

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LOL thats cool!! yeah i think ur DEH should be a fat so!
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looks..continued poisoning me aaa....my gerbils i dont know la the food everyday empty..meaning they eat..but not gemuk2 yet aa..tension ma.. yawn.gif

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now we hv kaylong n hao.... wow.... anyone wanna go to foo's tmr?? kidnap gerbils!! i think foo "kelang" kabut d!!! i think she'll pack her gerbils n move somewhere else tonite!! laugh.gif
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hey readix..me want to join the troop to...when we will go to nezu house aaa..but i will wait outside..afraid of taro..
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lol then i go pinjam more taro back hahaha...
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 07:56 PM)
lol then i go pinjam more taro back hahaha...
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but only me afraid..my gang dont afraid la...heheheh... laugh.gif
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taro is very tame~~ we just bring a female taro to keep taro bz!!! taro will even tell us where the gerbils are~
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 01:18 PM)
hahahahha..... thats my main purpose  flex.gif  whistling.gif
prestige + britter bunny + chinese almond+ vege powder+kibbles + .... hahahhaha alot ler.. but the main meal is prestige..
Readix u long time no login ler, i got new cam lu hehehe.. got new pic also ler... showu one that i post b4..

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LOL thats cool!! yeah i think ur DEH should be a fat so!
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Hahah.... I would say is your vege powder loh. Heheheh....

Aiyah, no wonder all your pics so nice and clear liao hehehe... new cam. Also no wonder so semangat take pic.

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so cute... line up n sleep~

wah... foo's pics very nice now!!canon powershot A710S?i think tmr i'll go kidnap some babies from u. want to steal some food also! hao wanna go? lol
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My goodness, that is just so cute!

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now we hv kaylong n hao.... wow.... anyone wanna go to foo's tmr?? kidnap gerbils!! i think foo "kelang" kabut d!!! i think she'll pack her gerbils n move somewhere else tonite!! laugh.gif
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Wah, all going to Foo's place tomorrow? What time leh? I wanna see I can make it or not hahahah...


Added on February 9, 2007, 8:36 pmHahaha... Foo, I see that cactus in your picture... reminds me so much of that accident LOL.

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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 08:19 PM)
taro is very tame~~ we just bring a female taro to keep taro bz!!! taro will even tell us where the gerbils are~
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hehehe you mean bring another bulldog?? i am afraid of dog la.. sad.gif

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Wah, all going to Foo's place tomorrow? What time leh? I wanna see I can make it or not hahahah...
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this trip is not a friendly trip la hehehe its an unlegal trip to catch some rodents hmm.gif

btw where to get vege powder aa?how much?

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wah... so many ppl wanna go now... let's set a time then...
foo, got many ppl help u to clean ur tanks tmr....
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i dont want to clean the tank la...
i want to steal gerbils la..huhuhuh
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when u pretend to clean... u can kidnap afew... hahahaha
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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 10:39 PM)
when u pretend to clean... u can kidnap afew... hahahaha
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i dont want to clean the tank la...
i want to steal gerbils la..huhuhuh
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see... who wanna do bad things here??!! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 03:35 PM)
now we hv kaylong n hao.... wow.... anyone wanna go to foo's tmr?? kidnap gerbils!! i think foo "kelang" kabut d!!! i think she'll pack her gerbils n move somewhere else tonite!! laugh.gif
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hehehe we look who plan it first aaa...
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Hmmm.. go steal nezu's gerbil.. why didn't i think of that... that way I won't have to pay to get gerbils.. just STEAL!
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damn. i'm missing all the fun. now it's to late to steal since all others has been take tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 9 2007, 08:35 PM)
Hahah.... I would say is your vege powder loh. Heheheh....

Aiyah, no wonder all your pics so nice and clear liao hehehe... new cam. Also no wonder so semangat take pic.
My goodness, that is just so cute!
Wah, all going to Foo's place tomorrow? What time leh? I wanna see I can make it or not hahahah...


Added on February 9, 2007, 8:36 pmHahaha... Foo, I see that cactus in your picture... reminds me so much of that accident LOL.
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hahha can be the vege powder too.. that is a very good thing ya hehhe.. yes lah poor u.. remember stay far away from it..


LOL u guys r super funny lah hahhaa...

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hahahaha..
sure she will tag along..
she not scared just "geli" only... happy.gif
but she like them...
i pick them up at the evening... ngehehehehe.. biggrin.gif
go look for cage first...rolleyes.gif

kembara : dun be afraid of taro...
he bully u, u bully back... ngahahahahaha.. bruce.gif rclxs0.gif
dun worry he verry tame one..
last time i go he just "lepak" in an area cover with fence that
foo made for him..
kalau lepas comfirm2 kene "samak" nanti sweat.gif
foo verry considerate one.. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

p/s: foo when want to give me ur bro car..
ngehehehehe.. can la.. i baby sit his car for cny tongue.gif
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wow you all post so much.. a while 4th page liau... still got any gerbil to steal? or all let you all taken away liau laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 10 2007, 12:04 AM)
er.. who ask the vege powder ah? can get in pet supply in SS2, 400+g RM80, 2,2kg ( i think) $200+. its expensive but very good vege mix, holistic also.
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nezu, where else we can buy the vege powder??
pets safari? pets wonderland? petsmore?
never go to SS2 before..
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vege powder use for wat?
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hahahaha..
sure she will tag along..
she not scared just "geli" only... happy.gif
but she like them...
i pick them up at the evening... ngehehehehe.. biggrin.gif
go look for cage first...rolleyes.gif

kembara : dun be afraid of taro...
                he bully u, u bully back... ngahahahahaha.. bruce.gif  rclxs0.gif
                dun worry he verry tame one..
                last time i go he just "lepak" in an area cover with fence that
                foo made for him..
                kalau lepas comfirm2 kene "samak" nanti sweat.gif
                foo verry considerate one.. rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif

p/s: foo when want to give me ur bro car..
      ngehehehehe.. can la.. i baby sit his car for cny  tongue.gif
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lol u ask him.. not mine hahhaha..

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wow you all post so much.. a while 4th page liau... still got any gerbil to steal? or all let you all taken away liau laugh.gif
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they want to steal ur pups lah!! not mine!!! faster go stop them!

QUOTE(dien @ Feb 10 2007, 09:11 AM)
nezu, where else we can buy the vege powder??
pets safari? pets wonderland? petsmore?
never go to SS2 before..
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on SS2 pets supply got..

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vege powder use for wat?
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for gerbils to eat loh...
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Sigh... today cleaning day so can't make it to Foo's place... ai, next day lah. Then I come to play wrestling with Taro heheheh...
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lol... foo your cleaning day must be very cham... haha... so many pets..
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Yeah I can imagine foo's pain.. I wash 1 cage also back ache..LOL.. but the thing is I was every 2-3 days.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 10 2007, 09:43 AM)
vege powder use for wat?
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lolz...
other than eat....
i really kenot think of other thing...
unless u wan to make new recipe for gerbil
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today no cleaning for me hahahah only can do tomorrow.. today kaylong & gf, Readix & gf, Maxine & friend (other forum) are here hahhaa.. suddently found my house kicten very small hahaha

cleaning not really difficult lah just take along time to do it.. heheh
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Loh... you guys plan a party and dint invite me... *sad*
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 10 2007, 12:04 AM)
hahha can be the vege powder too.. that is a very good thing ya hehhe.. yes lah poor u.. remember stay far away from it..
LOL u guys r super funny lah hahhaa...

er.. who ask the vege powder ah? can get in pet supply in SS2, 400+g RM80, 2,2kg ( i think) $200+. its expensive but very good vege mix, holistic also.
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kembara : dun be afraid of taro...
                he bully u, u bully back... ngahahahahaha.. bruce.gif  rclxs0.gif
                dun worry he verry tame one..
                last time i go he just "lepak" in an area cover with fence that
                foo made for him..
                kalau lepas comfirm2 kene "samak" nanti sweat.gif
                foo verry considerate one.. rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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heheh is keep in pagar ok la...
i forgot pulak kaylong you are like me hehehe
so dont have to woprry about samak..
but foo is lucky bcoz i cant go tomorrow...has to study la..bcoz exam mid semeseter on monday..

QUOTE(emino @ Feb 10 2007, 11:30 PM)
Loh... you guys plan a party and dint invite me... *sad*
kidding. if you invite oso i dont think i'll be there, last week sesat in PJ, sont want another kes of sesat this week. haha~
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you replace me la in the mission..
i cannot go la..but must give me stolen gerbil sekor dua huhu icon_rolleyes.gif

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Nezu.. When i saw ur taro hor, it reminds me about my secondary sch princlepal coz my princlepal looks so much alike as ur taro! the wrinkles, the fat fat, the mouth and the nose. omg.. their like clones.
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Feb 11 2007, 12:23 AM)
Nezu.. When i saw ur taro hor, it reminds me about my secondary sch princlepal coz my princlepal looks so much alike as ur taro! the wrinkles, the fat fat, the mouth and the nose. omg.. their like clones.
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lol then he must be so handsome n cute loh?
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 11 2007, 02:35 AM)
lol then he must be so handsome n cute loh?
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haha.. your taro has a clone.. smile.gif

nezu, these another pictures that taken yesterday..
hope these more clear than before. so, you can determine the color.. hehe.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Feb 11 2007, 01:23 AM)
Nezu.. When i saw ur taro hor, it reminds me about my secondary sch princlepal coz my princlepal looks so much alike as ur taro! the wrinkles, the fat fat, the mouth and the nose. omg.. their like clones.
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isk isk..
nezu,some people use bulldog as symbol of "garang"..thets why she compared his principal with your cute taro..
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taro pretend to be garang only~~ actually he's very nice. smile.gif principles also garang but they r nice too~~ laugh.gif

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haha.. now taro become a symbol of school principle..
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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 11 2007, 12:56 PM)
taro pretend to be garang only~~ actually he's very nice. smile.gif principles also garang but they r nice too~~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 11 2007, 01:34 PM)
haha.. now taro become a symbol of school principle..
looks garang, but nice..  smile.gif
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now everybody talk out of topic...bulldog and principal.. tongue.gif only taro related to gerbils bcoz he is gerbilz king huhu flex.gif

btw readix, you go to nezu house or not?got the gerbil?

why so silent today aa..everyone go cleaning?/
or everyone pretend to help nezu cleaning to did something else in same time hehe laugh.gif ??

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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 11 2007, 03:01 AM)
haha.. your taro has a clone..  smile.gif

nezu, these another pictures that taken yesterday..
hope these more clear than before. so, you can determine the color.. hehe..  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 11 2007, 03:01 AM)
haha.. your taro has a clone..  smile.gif

nezu, these another pictures that taken yesterday..
hope these more clear than before. so, you can determine the color.. hehe..  tongue.gif
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looks liks PEW. hmm.gif

i spent all afternoon at foo's. lol... kaylong came to get his pups too... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 11 2007, 03:23 PM)
looks liks PEW.  hmm.gif

i spent all afternoon at foo's. lol... kaylong came to get his pups too...  biggrin.gif
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how about you plan aaa..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 11 2007, 01:35 AM)
lol then he must be so handsome n cute loh?
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if the look is a dog then its handsome and cute.
but a human ??? omg. dun let me meet him again. shocking.gif whistling.gif
is garang= ferice?

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omg... i'm leaving tomorrow and yet my gerbil still with me... really hope tonite crazymouse got car...
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Oh I got 1 question. Gerbils heat tolerance should be higher than hamster right? I plan to leave my gerbils outdoor when I get them from nezu. Don't worry it's not that HOT. It's fully shaded. Nearby the car posh. Should be fine right?
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as far as i know... gerbils doesnt like hot. that's y it's their nature to dig burrows so that they can hide from the sun...

got cats around your neighbourhood? lol...
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 11 2007, 06:12 PM)
omg... i'm leaving tomorrow and yet my gerbil still with me... really hope tonite crazymouse got car...
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Oh, Hun helps you to take care of your gerbils when you go back to your hometown ar...

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Oh I got 1 question. Gerbils heat tolerance should be higher than hamster right? I plan to leave my gerbils outdoor when I get them from nezu. Don't worry it's not that HOT. It's fully shaded. Nearby the car posh. Should be fine right?
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Better put your gerbils inside your house to avoid attracting unwelcomed guests.
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aik..
why suddenly people talk bout taro..
waaa taro become famous already..

question2..
forgot to ask that day in hurry to pick my my rabbit from grooming... ;p
how many days have to use the split cage..?? 1 week enough tak..??
i rotate who should be in the cage everyday..
today the young boys tomorrow the older boys..
now can c the diff cleary interm of size..
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 11 2007, 06:12 PM)
omg... i'm leaving tomorrow and yet my gerbil still with me... really hope tonite crazymouse got car...
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Ah, your gerbils save and sound in my home now. I can clearly see your DEH is bigger than the agouti.... he is as big as my Silver hahahah.... Lucky my aunt is free, if not I also dunno how to take your gerbils loh. But luckily can lah.


QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 07:31 PM)
Oh I got 1 question. Gerbils heat tolerance should be higher than hamster right? I plan to leave my gerbils outdoor when I get them from nezu. Don't worry it's not that HOT. It's fully shaded. Nearby the car posh. Should be fine right?
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Never put gerbils outside... coz cats lah... later become food. Also these days heatwave very bad. I have to keep a few hamsters outside, a few died due to heatstroke. The best rodents that can tolerate heat outside are rats and mice... somehow they can sweat instead of drool. Gerbils can tolerate but then risky lah. You must give big bottle of water if you place outside. Again, I more concern of their safety against predators.
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 11 2007, 08:16 PM)
Oh, Hun helps you to take care of your gerbils when you go back to your hometown ar...
Better put your gerbils inside your house to avoid attracting unwelcomed guests.
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haha.. well to what I understand, gerbils are desert animals mar.. hmm.. unwelcomed guests as in thief or animals? If animals don't worry la.. I have my ways to make sure cats won't come.. if thief ar.. erm.. do you think someone is willing to jump in the house and take a whole tank of gerbils away? I think they'd rather steal my shoes outside. LOL.. kena many times alrd..
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 11:04 PM)
haha.. well to what I understand, gerbils are desert animals mar.. hmm.. unwelcomed guests as in thief or animals? If animals don't worry la.. I have my ways to make sure cats won't come.. if thief ar.. erm.. do you think someone is willing to jump in the house and take a whole tank of gerbils away? I think they'd rather steal my shoes outside. LOL.. kena many times alrd..
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Desert animals, yes lah but then in the wild, they dig burrows into the dark cool underground, away from sun light and heat to keep cool. In our tanks, we got no underground tunnel for them and woodshavings and hay cannot keep cool.

I tried before lah, put 1 gerbil outside my porch.... he drool and drool... almost pengsan. I brought to a McD outside Ikano, those who went for the gathering would know. They saw all my gerbils drool with heat. Imagine, only McD the shedded area and already they drool. So of course they are not suitable for outdoor if stay in woodshaving or any type of bedding.
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oh... icic. Usually what are the indications of 'overheat' for hamsters and gerbils. I tried leaving my hamster outside and I monitor it every hour. I check on its nose but everything seems fine. Not wet at all. Is it a clear indication that the temperature is fine for my hamster?
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 11:29 PM)
oh... icic. Usually what are the indications of 'overheat' for hamsters and gerbils. I tried leaving my hamster outside and I monitor it every hour. I check on its nose but everything seems fine. Not wet at all. Is it a clear indication that the temperature is fine for my hamster?
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When too hot, the fur is not smooth but scruffy. Also the cheek pouches for hamsters would be swollen with saliva and the mouth is wet. For gerbils, the fur is untidy a bit and the mouth and hands are wet.

Well, if you do not see any wetness around the mouth area... then I guess it is fine.... but as said before, our weather is changing so the heat can be different each day.
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 11 2007, 03:01 AM)
haha.. your taro has a clone..  smile.gif

nezu, these another pictures that taken yesterday..
hope these more clear than before. so, you can determine the color.. hehe..  tongue.gif
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is the eye ruby red or pink?

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isk isk..
nezu,some people use bulldog as symbol of "garang"..thets why she compared his principal with your cute taro..
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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 11 2007, 11:56 AM)
taro pretend to be garang only~~ actually he's very nice. smile.gif principles also garang but they r nice too~~ laugh.gif
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LOL yes pretend only

QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 07:31 PM)
Oh I got 1 question. Gerbils heat tolerance should be higher than hamster right? I plan to leave my gerbils outdoor when I get them from nezu. Don't worry it's not that HOT. It's fully shaded. Nearby the car posh. Should be fine right?
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i hope u can keep them indoor, cos i prefer my gerbils always stay close to human, if no i wouldn't spend so much time to tame them.

QUOTE(kaylong @ Feb 11 2007, 10:24 PM)
aik..
why suddenly people talk bout taro..
waaa taro become famous  already..

question2..
forgot to ask that day in hurry to pick my my rabbit from grooming... ;p
how many days have to use the split cage..?? 1 week enough tak..??
i rotate who should be in the cage everyday..
today the young boys tomorrow the older boys..
now can c the diff cleary interm of size..
hahahahaha
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do they show any aggressive sign? if not sign is show.. u keep them like that for 2 - 3 days, take all of them out put on the tank cover, put one by one, see if they can get along. if they ok, put on the cover for 30 mins. if everything ok, then u wash ur tank with sabun, no more smell, put new bedding everything new, no toy, only bedding n hay. put them in.. n see.. if everything ok... next day u can put in ceramic n glass toy ( wash also), wodden toy always carry smell, put in after 2 weeks time.

if they show aggressive, keep sawping them every 2 days, until u see them don't bother each other, then do the same as above. do it slow ok. always wear glove or hold a cloth with u when u intro them. fight can give u bad bite.
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Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils. he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.

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Some gerbils may not live as long as others. It does look peaceful. May it RIP. sad.gif
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sorry about Keith jaswwp.... RIP Keith....
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 12:12 AM)
Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils.  he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.

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JAS!! cry.gif
sorry for ur lost... yes may him RIP... i better don't type much.. if not i will cry.gif in office sad.gif u take care ok
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Sorry for your lost, Jas. May Keith RIP.
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 01:12 AM)
Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils.  he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.

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sad.gif i am so sorry to hear that...may him RIP...
hard to accept when our beloved pet leave us rite.. sad.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 11 2007, 02:25 PM)
Looks like a Pink Eyed White. Get a clearer picture of the eyes.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 12 2007, 01:02 AM)
is the eye ruby red or pink?
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the eyes??
so, have to take pictures of her eyes..

QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 01:12 AM)
Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils.  he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.
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sorry to hear that..
may Keith RIP..

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 12:12 AM)
Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils.  he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.

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sorry for ur lost, jas... sad.gif

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believe it or not.. my tears came drooling down when i saw keith's pic.. i hate to see dead animals. but this is the nature of life. hais.. may keith rest in peace and b happy in another world of its own..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 12 2007, 05:04 PM)
yes take the eye without flash..
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Added on February 12, 2007, 7:46 pmMy gerbils... actually wanna take pic one but they're too active, i gave up in the end and take video instead sweat.gif





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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 12 2007, 06:04 PM)
yes take the eye without flash..
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 12 2007, 07:59 PM)
Wah foo... very difficult to take gerbil's pic without flash using cam ler... hahahahahaha... take using hp lagi no hope...  laugh.gif
My gerbils... actually wanna take pic one but they're too active, i gave up in the end and take video instead sweat.gif
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i only have hp camera lol.. blush.gif

hao, nice gerbils..
are all in the same color??

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Nope. In the video, there's an Agouti, DEH and sp Argente. smile.gif
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just now watched the video once again..
i can see that they are diff colors..
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 12 2007, 08:20 PM)
just now watched the video once again..
i can see that they are diff colors..
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Need to watch 2nd time to differentiate the colours ar? that means first time din pay too much attention lor... hahahha
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 12:12 AM)
Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils.  he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.

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Keith... good bye to a wonderful gerbil. I was so sad to hear the news last night.... sigh... his parents are still with me actually. But then Keith was different, a wonderful fella. Rest in peace Keith, now he can teman Pecan in the other world. cry.gif

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Wah foo... very difficult to take gerbil's pic without flash using cam ler... hahahahahaha... take using hp lagi no hope...  laugh.gif


Added on February 12, 2007, 7:46 pmMy gerbils... actually wanna take pic one but they're too active, i gave up in the end and take video instead sweat.gif


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Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... they look very very good hahahah.... the DEH turned out to be a very handsome fella.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 12 2007, 09:35 PM)
Keith... good bye to a wonderful gerbil. I was so sad to hear the news last night.... sigh... his parents are still with me actually. But then Keith was different, a wonderful fella. Rest in peace Keith, now he can teman Pecan in the other world. cry.gif
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... they look very very good hahahah.... the DEH turned out to be a very handsome fella.
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hao..
if i released my gerbil like that..
i afraid i cannot catch them back la...heheheh..lucky la u can tamed them
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 12 2007, 09:36 PM)
But he's the skinniest among the 3  laugh.gif
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Thanks for the kind thoughts guys,I just burried Keith with Pecan. Put him in a small metal box, like a coffin. My parents said its so much trouble for a gerbil, coz it was raining and all that today....but its ok la, it wont feel right to just dump him away in the bin. I'd rather give him a proper burial.
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 12 2007, 09:41 PM)
Need to watch 2nd time to differentiate the colours ar? that means first time din pay too much attention lor... hahahha
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hahaha.. i'm new in having gerbil kot...
thats why have to look carefully, many times..

QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 11:01 PM)
Thanks for the kind thoughts guys,I just burried Keith with Pecan. Put him in a small metal box, like a coffin. My parents said its so much trouble for a gerbil, coz it was raining and all that today....but its ok la, it wont feel right to just dump him away in the bin. I'd rather give him a proper burial.
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how nice are you..
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both in their life and also after death..

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my gerbil not tame yet...
although experience in taming hamster..but i cant practised it to gerbils...huhuhu
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 12 2007, 06:59 PM)
Wah foo... very difficult to take gerbil's pic without flash using cam ler... hahahahahaha... take using hp lagi no hope...  laugh.gif


Added on February 12, 2007, 7:46 pmMy gerbils... actually wanna take pic one but they're too active, i gave up in the end and take video instead sweat.gif


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lol.... running here n there!!! hahahha.. but nice video.. also showing ur messy bed hahaha..
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nezu, you have any petua to tame gerbil aaa...
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 12 2007, 09:42 PM)
hao..
if i released my gerbil like that..
i afraid i cannot catch them back la...heheheh..lucky la u can tamed them
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If u scare u can't catch your gerbil, then you put them on the cover like i do lor... mostly they wont jump one unless they have the confidence...

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 12 2007, 09:44 PM)
The skinniest? wah.... feed more dog kibble hahahah.... but they all look good to me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Their meal is habitrail + prestige + dog kibbles... sometime i oso got mix with cat kibble... haha

QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 10:01 PM)
Thanks for the kind thoughts guys,I just burried Keith with Pecan. Put him in a small metal box, like a coffin. My parents said its so much trouble for a gerbil, coz it was raining and all that today....but its ok la, it wont feel right to just dump him away in the bin. I'd rather give him a proper burial.
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A proper burial is better than dumping them into rubbish bin, they're our friends afterall eventhough the period might be short... it's like paying the last respect to our friends. Hope he find new friends at the rainbow bridge...

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 12 2007, 10:46 PM)
lol.... running here n there!!! hahahha.. but nice video.. also showing ur messy bed hahaha..
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tame gerbils?? as observed from foo's...

1st make them fat!! feed them vege powder!! so they run slower, lazy to jump n lazy to fight back...

2nd get a taro... all gerbils will be tamed!!
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Hm well to tame a gerbil, try to get it to eat from your fingers, and move on to getting it to sit on your hand while eating, and slowly u can stroke it while its busy eating.
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 12 2007, 10:48 PM)
nezu, you have any petua to tame gerbil aaa...
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here Yuki the tamed boy..


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tame gerbils?? as observed from foo's...

1st make them fat!! feed them vege powder!! so they run slower, lazy to jump n lazy to fight back...

2nd get a taro... all gerbils will be tamed!!
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hahhaha READIX!! no more vege powder lah!! LOL but i feel fatso is more tamed also hehehe..
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Haha, foos version of tame gerbil = lazy gerbil tongue.gif

My version of tame gerbil is a gerbil that jump on your hand when it sees its owner come. (Go Anya go!)

Just kidding foo,hahaha....
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hmmm yes lah i know anya is good lah LOL..... but true wor.. i think mine gerbil is lazy LOL... n some more abit blur blur like that..

LOL...
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ya... play with them for a few mins everyday... hang your hand over the tank... let them smell it to eventually lay your hand onto the bedding until they're comfortable to walk over/into your palm then start to feed them on your palm then when they're sitting on your palm, u slowly lift your hand and they feel comfortable.... u need lots of patience... good luck
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hi... i'm back.. safe and sound... hehe...
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 13 2007, 10:12 AM)
hi... i'm back.. safe and sound... hehe...
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reading about jaswwp sad news makes me hesitate to keep gerbils...

BUT... watching hao & foo gerbil's video make me feel CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE MINEEE...!!! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 13 2007, 10:12 AM)
hi... i'm back.. safe and sound... hehe...
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Wah... so fast reach already... i'm going back this sunday, dunno got bus ticket or not... sad.gif
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hao!! bus??
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 10:52 AM)
hao!! bus??
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From Melaka to KL. Then from Pudu bus station to LCCT...
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i tot u go back kuching?
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QUOTE(readix @ Feb 13 2007, 01:03 AM)
tame gerbils?? as observed from foo's...

1st make them fat!! feed them vege powder!! so they run slower, lazy to jump n lazy to fight back...

2nd get a taro... all gerbils will be tamed!!
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must get taro first aaa to tame gerbill?? nezu..can i borrow for some day a week..huhu
QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 13 2007, 10:39 AM)
Hm well to tame a gerbil, try to get it to eat from your fingers, and move on to getting it to sit on your hand while eating, and slowly u can stroke it while its busy eating.
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i afraid the thing they will eat is my finger la hehehe...joking only.. i'll try..


QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 11:01 AM)
i play with them everyday.. even 2 mins also better than nothing.. just make it daily.
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 13 2007, 11:06 AM)
Haha, foos version of tame gerbil = lazy gerbil tongue.gif

My version of tame gerbil is a gerbil that jump on your hand when it sees its owner come. (Go Anya go!)

Just kidding foo,hahaha....
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tame also had versions w??...


QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 11:10 AM)
hmmm yes lah i know anya is good lah LOL.....  but true wor.. i think mine gerbil is lazy LOL... n some more abit blur blur like that..

LOL...
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foo, your gerbill influenced by taro's lazyness heheheh

QUOTE(readix @ Feb 13 2007, 11:11 AM)
ya... play with them for a few mins everyday... hang your hand over the tank... let them smell it to eventually lay your hand onto the bedding until they're comfortable to walk over/into your palm then start to feed them on your palm then  when they're sitting on your palm, u slowly lift your hand and they feel comfortable.... u need lots of patience... good luck
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thanks for the method of taming..
i'll try my best..

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every one here giving knowledge in taming gerbil skill..
will apply some methods.. at least playing with mine everyday..

nezu, some pictures of my gerbil..
i hope these pictures are clear.. no flash..
look into her eyes.. pink or ruby red??

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 11:32 AM)
i tot u go back kuching?
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Yealar, then i take plane from LCCT to Kch mar... happy.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 11:32 AM)
i tot u go back kuching?
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i think he's going back to kuching... it juz that maybe forgot to put the last stop... biggrin.gif

Melaka - KL (Pudu) - LCCT - Kuching... hmm.gif


Hao:
if u show them ur gerbils definitely u got extra sit one... laugh.gif

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Dien I think its a pink eyed white..although the pics not very clear, haha.. I may be wrong though.. u can check urself if the eye got blue color at the edges then it is ruby eye, if not then it is pink eye

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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 13 2007, 11:42 AM)
Hao:
if u show them ur gerbils definitely u got extra sit one...  laugh.gif
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Extra sit in Police Station for taking pets in flight illegally izzit? Hahahaha...
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 11:45 AM)
Extra sit in Police Station for taking pets in flight illegally izzit? Hahahaha...
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 13 2007, 11:44 AM)
Dien I think its a pink eyed white..although the pics not very clear, haha.. I may be wrong though.. u can check urself if the eye got blue color at the edges then it is ruby eye, if not then it is pink eye
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It looks like PEW to me though... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 13 2007, 11:39 AM)
every one here giving knowledge in taming gerbil skill..
will apply some methods.. at least playing with mine everyday..

nezu, some pictures of my gerbil..
i hope these pictures are clear.. no flash..
look into her eyes.. pink or ruby red??
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 13 2007, 11:44 AM)
Dien I think its a pink eyed white..although the pics not very clear, haha.. I may be wrong though.. u can check urself if the eye got blue color at the edges then it is ruby eye, if not then it is pink eye
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yes looks pink, oh yes the blue ring.. lucky jas remember i also forget LOL.. check the ring n see..

QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 11:40 AM)
Yealar, then i take plane from LCCT to Kch mar... happy.gif
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ohhhh i c... see ya!! hv a nice trip ah!


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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 13 2007, 12:44 PM)
Dien I think its a pink eyed white..although the pics not very clear, haha.. I may be wrong though.. u can check urself if the eye got blue color at the edges then it is ruby eye, if not then it is pink eye
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 12:48 PM)
It looks like PEW to me though...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 12:52 PM)
yes looks pink, oh yes the blue ring.. lucky jas remember i also forget LOL.. check the ring n see..
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huhu.. like hao said before, hp camera maybe can be hope..
just check the blue color yer.. will have a look tonight..
thank you every one..

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Extra sit in Police Station for taking pets in flight illegally izzit? Hahahaha...
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hao, you will bring your gerbil go back ke?
legal or illegal??

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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 13 2007, 11:53 AM)
huhu.. like hao said before, hp camera maybe can be hope..
just check the blue color yer.. will have a look tonight..
thank you every one..
hao, you will bring your gerbil go back ke?
legal or illegal??
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If smuggle then it's illegal lor... A lot of procedure need to be taken if you want to bring your pets to Sabah or Sarawak. They're very strict even on dogs.
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 01:12 PM)
If smuggle then it's illegal lor... A lot of procedure need to be taken if you want to bring your pets to Sabah or Sarawak. They're very strict even on dogs.
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yes, very strict... what i heard is export permit from here and import permit from ur destination... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 13 2007, 01:53 PM)
yes, very strict... what i heard is export permit from here and import permit from ur destination... rclxub.gif
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Getting the export permit here is easy, the only difficult part is when it need to be cleared in the airport. 6 months of quarantine is needed. That's for dog, not sure with other pets.
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 02:20 PM)
Getting the export permit here is easy, the only difficult part is when it need to be cleared in the airport. 6 months of quarantine is needed. That's for dog, not sure with other pets.
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6-month quarantine...!!? are u sure that long...? that means the dog will be at the quarantine area/room for 6 months with out the owner la... fuyoooo... better smuggle la like that... very troublesome...
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 13 2007, 02:25 PM)
6-month quarantine...!!? are u sure that long...? that means the dog will be at the quarantine area/room for 6 months with out the owner la... fuyoooo... better smuggle la like that... very troublesome...
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Yes, asked a few ppl d... Jabatan Haiwan Sarawak is very strict on taking pets into the state.
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 02:30 PM)
Yes, asked a few ppl d... Jabatan Haiwan Sarawak is very strict on taking pets into the state.
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luckily gerbil is small only... still can hide under armpit if emergency... but need to keep the hair la, so they'll feel warm & comfortable... can sleep tight somemore, feel like sleeping in the wood shaving... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 13 2007, 02:36 PM)
luckily gerbil is small only... still can hide under armpit if emergency... but need to keep the hair la, so they'll feel warm & comfortable... can sleep tight somemore, feel like sleeping in the wood shaving... laugh.gif
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I'll be happy if they don't suffocate in my armpit. laugh.gif
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they might chew off all ur hair smile.gif no need to shave it, haha
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 13 2007, 02:45 PM)
they might chew off all ur hair smile.gif no need to shave it, haha
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Can eat the kutu somemore... hahahahahaha
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 02:47 PM)
Can eat the kutu somemore... hahahahahaha
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save the meal then... no need to bring out for feeding... and nobody will notice... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif so need to breed some kutu in the armpit 1st la... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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ok guys~~ this armpit kutu gerbil thingy is gettin abit gross.... laugh.gif
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LOLterrible lah u guys haha
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well the moral of the story is... gerbils is easy to hide... laugh.gif

p/s: i remember my friend from Tawau came to my house to get a couple of serama chicks and put them in the shoe box... then he put the shoe box into his sling bag... he carried the bag with him all the time from LCCT - Brunei - Kota Kinabalu - Tawau... and now the chicks full grown already... rclxms.gif
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carry-on bags also need to pass thru x-ray machine.... wwonder how the chicks survived....
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Erm... how much does it cost if you put your pet on the 'pet cargo'???
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 13 2007, 04:09 PM)
well the moral of the story is... gerbils is easy to hide...  laugh.gif

p/s: i remember my friend from Tawau came to my house to get a couple of serama chicks and put them in the shoe box... then he put the shoe box into his sling bag... he carried the bag with him all the time from LCCT - Brunei - Kota Kinabalu - Tawau... and now the chicks full grown already... rclxms.gif
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Won't the X-Ray machine detects the skeleton of the chicken when it passes through the machine?

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Erm... how much does it cost if you put your pet on the 'pet cargo'???
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I forgot how much d... if i'm not mistaken, for dogs and cats they charge by the weight of the cage plus the animal itself...
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Great news!!!! Autumn gave birth to 2 days ago.... today I checked.... it's 1 female and 1 male... and both are very nice spotted agoutis!!! Autumn is a DEH while the father is the ever hamsap Silver,a dove.... Silver is now with a spotted black... will get back spotted blacks again if all goes well hehee....

QUOTE(dien @ Feb 13 2007, 11:39 AM)
every one here giving knowledge in taming gerbil skill..
will apply some methods.. at least playing with mine everyday..

nezu, some pictures of my gerbil..
i hope these pictures are clear.. no flash..
look into her eyes.. pink or ruby red??
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Seems like PEW to me.

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Erm... how much does it cost if you put your pet on the 'pet cargo'???
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Pet Cargo? They don't do rodents. Only animals that can be vaccinated and fully checked by a vet. So dogs and cats yes.... rodents... normally hush hush but then majority do not allow lah.

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Hun, they do rodents too. Here's the charges for MASKargo:

Rates and tariffs for import and export of animals Type Example Rates
Equines Horses, mules MYR300 per animal
Domestic animals Cattle, sheep, goats, pigs MYR300 per pallet
MYR100 per crate
Feathered animals Day old chicks, day old ducklings, day old goosling, live birds <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Crustacean / molluse / seafood Live crabs, seafood mix with consignment of live crabs <100kg MYR30
101-500kg MYR70
>501kg MYR180
Domestic pets Cats, dogs, hamsters, rodents, parrots, squirrels MYR30 per kennel
Reptiles / insects Snakes, turtles, lizards, bees, worms <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Zoological animals Tigers, giraffes, lions, monkeys <300kg MYR50
300-100kg MYR100
>1001kg MYR300
Accomodation charges (applicable for import and export from ATA and cargo acceptance time) First 8 hrs of ATA or STD - Free
After 8 hrs of ATA or STD - RM150 per day/shipment
Cleaning of horse stall RM400 per stall
Cleaning and disposal of crate for Domestic animals Per pallet RM300
Per crate RM50
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 08:12 PM)
Hun, they do rodents too. Here's the charges for MASKargo:

Rates and tariffs for import and export of animals  Type Example Rates
Equines  Horses, mules  MYR300 per animal
Domestic animals  Cattle, sheep, goats, pigs  MYR300 per pallet
MYR100 per crate
Feathered animals  Day old chicks, day old ducklings, day old goosling, live birds  <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Crustacean / molluse / seafood  Live crabs, seafood mix with consignment of live crabs  <100kg MYR30
101-500kg MYR70
>501kg MYR180
Domestic pets  Cats, dogs, hamsters, rodents, parrots, squirrels  MYR30 per kennel
Reptiles / insects  Snakes, turtles, lizards, bees, worms  <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Zoological animals  Tigers, giraffes, lions, monkeys  <300kg MYR50
300-100kg MYR100
>1001kg MYR300
Accomodation charges (applicable for import and export from ATA and cargo acceptance time)  First 8 hrs of ATA or STD - Free
After 8 hrs of ATA or STD - RM150 per day/shipment
Cleaning of horse stall  RM400 per stall
Cleaning and disposal of crate for Domestic animals  Per pallet RM300
Per crate RM50
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Wah.... didn't know... hahaha... you have given me some knowledge now hahahah...

But then, no need permit meh? Must have right? Coz I was reading on the importation and exportation of animals by a government website and it says only dogs and cats are normally allowed, other animals, that depends.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 13 2007, 08:26 PM)
Wah.... didn't know... hahaha... you have given me some knowledge now hahahah...

But then, no need permit meh? Must have right? Coz I was reading on the importation and exportation of animals by a government website and it says only dogs and cats are normally allowed, other animals, that depends.
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Haha... sharing knowledge mar...

Still need permit... but this one i got no idea what's the procedure...
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waw congrate hun.. the deh too strong huh.. 2 also agouti. good sp? pied?
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Won't the X-Ray machine detects the skeleton of the chicken when it passes through the machine?
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i dunno about that... maybe small bag they juz check manually... i also surprise when he told me that all the chicks were save and sound... brows.gif
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waw congrate hun.. the deh too strong huh.. 2 also agouti. good sp? pied?
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Yah, DEH to strong ahahahah... but the sp quite good. Big patch on the heads.... I still can't see got collar or not coz this 2 agoutis very light.... I think due to Ch gene maybe... wait a few more days then got fur is easier to see loh.

Quite happy with these 2 coz the spots quite prominant than my older sp agoutis loh heheheh....

Silver yesterday mated liao with my Junior- Sp Black.... wonder how nice the sp would be later... pray pray all nice nice.
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i c... yes should be see 4 - 5 days old.. hehehe i also get my 1st nice pied.. very happy hehe
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 14 2007, 11:19 AM)
i c...  yes should be see 4 - 5 days old.. hehehe i also get my 1st nice pied.. very happy hehe
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can u explain 'pied'...? hmm.gif
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see jas signy or 1st page, the spotted agouti is pied agouti, the spotted from head to full colar


Added on February 14, 2007, 1:23 pmgerbil showcase is up, view page one for the link, ppl who not sure about gerbils colors, hope it will help abit smile.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 13 2007, 08:18 PM)
Great news!!!! Autumn gave birth to 2 days ago.... today I checked.... it's 1 female and 1 male... and both are very nice spotted agoutis!!! Autumn is a DEH while the father is the ever hamsap Silver,a dove.... Silver is now with a spotted black... will get back spotted blacks again if all goes well hehee....
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congrate hun.. rclxms.gif
basically, how many babies born at one time??

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Hun, they do rodents too. Here's the charges for MASKargo:

Rates and tariffs for import and export of animals  Type Example Rates
Equines  Horses, mules  MYR300 per animal
Domestic animals  Cattle, sheep, goats, pigs  MYR300 per pallet
MYR100 per crate
Feathered animals  Day old chicks, day old ducklings, day old goosling, live birds  <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Crustacean / molluse / seafood  Live crabs, seafood mix with consignment of live crabs  <100kg MYR30
101-500kg MYR70
>501kg MYR180
Domestic pets  Cats, dogs, hamsters, rodents, parrots, squirrels  MYR30 per kennel
Reptiles / insects  Snakes, turtles, lizards, bees, worms  <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Zoological animals  Tigers, giraffes, lions, monkeys  <300kg MYR50
300-100kg MYR100
>1001kg MYR300
Accomodation charges (applicable for import and export from ATA and cargo acceptance time)  First 8 hrs of ATA or STD - Free
After 8 hrs of ATA or STD - RM150 per day/shipment
Cleaning of horse stall  RM400 per stall
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looking at the price.. it lead me to bring my pets illegally.. blush.gif
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where r u? kampung oledi lah?
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Wah... so fast reach already... i'm going back this sunday, dunno got bus ticket or not... sad.gif
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how come sunday go back? new year first day u go back... why dun earlier

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 14 2007, 04:48 PM)
yealor... at miri now... if you know where is it la... haha


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how come sunday go back? new year first day u go back... why dun earlier
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Bought wrong ticket, dunno that's the first day of CNY blush.gif
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foo, how many babies u had the most? 10?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 14 2007, 04:48 PM)
yealor... at miri now... if you know where is it la... haha


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how come sunday go back? new year first day u go back... why dun earlier
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sure know..smile.gif happy new year ah!

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Bought wrong ticket, dunno that's the first day of CNY  blush.gif
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KAKAKKAKA rclxub.gif <-- hao.. he want to stay with gf longer lah..
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Sigh... sad news.... 1 sp agouti pup died.... is the female... notice it got bloated tummy, maybe got too much air in the internal organs... Also, I think my DEH not enough milk.... now I am feeding the remaining male sp agouti, hope he can make it.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 14 2007, 05:25 PM)
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LOL... gf going back tomorrow liao lor... haha

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 14 2007, 05:38 PM)
Sigh... sad news.... 1 sp agouti pup died.... is the female... notice it got bloated tummy, maybe got too much air in the internal organs... Also, I think my DEH not enough milk.... now I am feeding the remaining male sp agouti, hope he can make it.
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Hope the other pups are alright... nod.gif

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Sigh... sad news.... 1 sp agouti pup died.... is the female... notice it got bloated tummy, maybe got too much air in the internal organs... Also, I think my DEH not enough milk.... now I am feeding the remaining male sp agouti, hope he can make it.
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LOL... gf going back tomorrow liao lor... haha
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swt la... ticket also can buy wrong... then ur gf back ur animal how ler?
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Back with her lor, except my T....
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Sigh... sad news.... 1 sp agouti pup died.... is the female... notice it got bloated tummy, maybe got too much air in the internal organs... Also, I think my DEH not enough milk.... now I am feeding the remaining male sp agouti, hope he can make it.
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hope that another pups will live long..
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QUOTE(emino @ Feb 14 2007, 08:19 PM)
No balik kampong for me! Muahahahah~
Nowadays can simply use the 'Siapa nak jaga Gerbils kalau I balik?' excuse to my parents. Kikiki~
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hoho use gerbils as a reason to not to balik kampung aaa...
but my mom will reject la reason like that..he will tell me to bring along those pets..and suruh my dad jemput me huhuhu never got chance to ponteng form balik kampung
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today when i reached room i was little bit shocked..
at the beginning, i want to checked the color of my gerbil's eyes, but i didn't do that when i noticed another three red pups was born..
better i don't disturb her for several days..
i think she was pregnant before i got her a few weeks ago..

my question, should i take out another one of my female gerbil from that tank?
or just let her stay in that tank as it..
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 14 2007, 09:28 PM)
today when i reached room i was little bit shocked..
at the beginning, i want to checked the color of my gerbil's eyes, but i didn't do that when i noticed another three red pups was born..
better i don't disturb her for several days..
i think she was pregnant before i got her a few weeks ago..

my question, should i take out another one of my female gerbil from that tank?
or just let her stay in that tank as it..
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hahahah got newbies not telling me aaaa...
i want a gerbil dien...hahahaha
i think the person that give it to you already told the gerbils are pregnant..thats why she give it to you
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hoho use gerbils as a reason to not to balik kampung aaa...
but my mom will reject la reason like that..he will tell me to bring along those pets..and suruh my dad jemput me huhuhu never got chance to ponteng form balik kampung
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Haha~ I only have motorcycles, and my dad hate coming to KL. He cant stand the traffics. So I can use that reason safely every single time!!!
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hehehe.. just knew they are born this evening ler..
when i back from class..
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Haha~ I only have motorcycles, and my dad hate coming to KL. He cant stand the traffics. So I can use that reason safely every single time!!!
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Sigh... sad news.... 1 sp agouti pup died.... is the female... notice it got bloated tummy, maybe got too much air in the internal organs... Also, I think my DEH not enough milk.... now I am feeding the remaining male sp agouti, hope he can make it.
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oh dear, hope the one can make it, hand feed him loh.. but do mama sit on him??

QUOTE(emino @ Feb 14 2007, 07:19 PM)
No balik kampong for me! Muahahahah~
Nowadays can simply use the 'Siapa nak jaga Gerbils kalau I balik?' excuse to my parents. Kikiki~
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LOL.. good on uhahhaa

QUOTE(dien @ Feb 14 2007, 08:28 PM)
today when i reached room i was little bit shocked..
at the beginning, i want to checked the color of my gerbil's eyes, but i didn't do that when i noticed another three red pups was born..
better i don't disturb her for several days..
i think she was pregnant before i got her a few weeks ago..

my question, should i take out another one of my female gerbil from that tank?
or just let her stay in that tank as it..
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how many gerbils u hv in the tank? n the sex? how old? if u got 2 females, n adult, better becareful.
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 14 2007, 08:28 PM)
today when i reached room i was little bit shocked..
at the beginning, i want to checked the color of my gerbil's eyes, but i didn't do that when i noticed another three red pups was born..
better i don't disturb her for several days..
i think she was pregnant before i got her a few weeks ago..

my question, should i take out another one of my female gerbil from that tank?
or just let her stay in that tank as it..
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Better seperate the female... It may look like nothing now but then later you may find missing pups.

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 14 2007, 10:34 PM)
oh dear, hope the one can make it, hand feed him loh..  but do mama sit on him??
LOL.. good on uhahhaa
how many gerbils u hv in the tank? n the sex? how old? if u got 2 females, n adult, better becareful.
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Yes loh, now I am actually handfeeding him while online. He is very small and skinny.... His mama sit on him and hug him to sleep...but I think coz not enough babies, and she 1st time is mummy.... so maybe that is why she not producing milk.

This pup's so small... must feed him with droplets of milk using my finger and a paperclip...
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how many gerbils u hv in the tank? n the sex? how old? if u got 2 females, n adult, better becareful.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 15 2007, 01:14 AM)
Better seperate the female... It may look like nothing now but then later you may find missing pups.
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have 2 adult females in the same tank..
thank you foo, thank you hun..
i'll seperate another female when i reach room this evening..

question.. do anyone here know, either petshops at jalan pasar will be opened on this friday and saturday??
usually when shops will close in order to celebrate CNY this sunday??
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 15 2007, 12:14 AM)
Better seperate the female... It may look like nothing now but then later you may find missing pups.
Yes loh, now I am actually handfeeding him while online. He is very small and skinny.... His mama sit on him and hug him to sleep...but I think coz not enough babies, and she 1st time is mummy.... so maybe that is why she not producing milk.

This pup's so small... must feed him with droplets of milk using my finger and a paperclip...
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make sure the milk u feed hor, he digest after few hours. if not it will hv problem too, cos i hv some pup canot digest also.

QUOTE(dien @ Feb 15 2007, 08:19 AM)
have 2 adult females in the same tank..
thank you foo, thank you hun..
i'll seperate another female when i reach room this evening..

question.. do anyone here know, either petshops at jalan pasar will be opened on this friday and saturday??
usually when shops will close in order to celebrate CNY this sunday??
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no idea..
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Some shops will close this Saturday... some on Sunday... normally the shops close on 1st, 2nd and 3rd day of CNY....


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make sure the milk u feed hor, he digest after few hours. if not it will hv problem too, cos i hv some pup canot digest also.
no idea..
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I think that is why the female pup died... this male can digest.... but he still skinny.... hope he can make it lah.

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no idea..
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 15 2007, 11:51 AM)
Some shops will close this Saturday... some on Sunday... normally the shops close on 1st, 2nd and 3rd day of CNY....
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ok thank you..
i'll go there and some petshops around jalan petaling tomorrow to buy some stuffs for gerbil and hamster..
hope they will not close tomorrow..
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i called Petsmore Cheras juz now, they are open during CNY... it juz that operating hour untill 6pm only... other Petsmore i dunno...
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 15 2007, 12:11 PM)
i called Petsmore Cheras juz now, they are open during CNY... it juz that operating hour untill 6pm only... other Petsmore i dunno...
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good news..
but not confirm with petsmore petaling street..
hope other petsmore also open..
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 15 2007, 11:16 AM)
good news..
but not confirm with petsmore petaling street..
hope other petsmore also open..
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i think if u r from gombak, it's not that hard to go to Petsmore Cheras...
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 15 2007, 12:01 PM)
ok thank you..
i'll go there and some petshops around jalan petaling tomorrow to buy some stuffs for gerbil and hamster..
hope they will not close tomorrow..
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tomorrow evening back up class aaaa..want to ponteng aaa..
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i ask petsmore at Jln Kuchai lama liao, they got open during CNY period. And forget which day liao, they even open until midnite leh........
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jln kuchai lama where??
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 15 2007, 12:08 PM)
jln kuchai lama where??
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er.....the row of shop beside Citrus Park. its opposite Maybank.....
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Feb 15 2007, 01:09 PM)
er.....the row of shop beside Citrus Park. its opposite Maybank.....
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icon_rolleyes.gif i dont know the place aaa...where actually..subang..ampang..kl centre..petaling street pj.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 15 2007, 12:08 PM)
jln kuchai lama where??
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u can go there either from KL-Seremban Highway (heading south), then exit to New Pantai Expressway Interchange, then u'll see Jalan Kuchai Lama exit... OR u can go from Jalan Klang Lama (heading to Puchong), u'll see Jalan Kuchai Lama juntion on ur left hand side...
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 15 2007, 01:31 PM)
u can go there either from KL-Seremban Highway (heading south), then exit to New Pantai Expressway Interchange, then u'll see Jalan Kuchai Lama exit... OR u can go from Jalan Klang Lama (heading to Puchong), u'll see Jalan Kuchai Lama juntion on ur left hand side...
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thank you...
but i am not a motorcycle rider neither car driver..
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 15 2007, 12:43 PM)
thank you...
but i am not a motorcycle rider neither car driver..
public transportation please...huhuhu tongue.gif
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if u r not a motor rider or car driver... then be a cab passenger la... easier... laugh.gif
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boleh used cab..but you bayar the tambang huhuhu tongue.gif
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boleh used cab..but you bayar the tambang huhuhu tongue.gif
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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 15 2007, 01:57 PM)
if like that... u walk to the place la... no need money also... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 15 2007, 12:32 PM)
tomorrow evening back up class aaaa..want to ponteng aaa..
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a'ah.. i'm forgot we still have back-up class this friday..
have to change plan..

QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 15 2007, 12:21 PM)
i think if u r from gombak, it's not that hard to go to Petsmore Cheras...
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Feb 15 2007, 01:06 PM)
i ask petsmore at Jln Kuchai lama liao, they got open during CNY period. And forget which day liao, they even open until midnite leh........
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there are two petsmore open during CNY.. maybe another branches also open..
then, easier for me to go to petsmore petaling street..

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oh so cruel la lu...suruh me walk aaa.. blink.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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i just noticed that total of my gerbil pups are 4 not 3..
only noticed 3 before 1 of them is placed in the aroma burner.. tongue.gif
so far, all pups are ok i think..
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can exercise mahhh... biggrin.gif
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HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!!!!
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the day after tomorrow..
Happy Chinese New Year..
have a fun nice celebration..
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HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!!!!
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rclxms.gif yey happy chinese new year..
its started today, foo?? blink.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 16 2007, 12:50 PM)
tomorrow reunion dinner, sunday is the 1st day!! YEAH!!!!
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ooic its started with nite also aaa like hari raya puasa...
if chinese new year we can visit our chinese frend house like hari raya??
can aaa??can??
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 16 2007, 11:31 AM)
jahat u aaa...how do you know i am a fat man aaa..
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sixth sense... laugh.gif

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HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!!!!
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yup... selamat tahun baru cina... happy chinese new year... gong xi fa cai... kong hei kong hei...!!! party.gif so tomorrow got yam-seng la foo... cheers.gif laugh.gif
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poor thing... today little baby boy joined his sister up in heaven.... well, I tried my best but can't be saved even through handfeeding....

Now this is why breeding can lead to heartache....
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Sorry to hear that Hun.
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Well, to be a breeder one would experience such loses...

Well, now left with my lil 3 week old nutmeg boy.... then I am gonna expect some litters in mid or end of March too.
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That's something we can't prevent, as long as you did your best to save them. happy.gif

Another litters?! Wow!!
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Yah, as long tried the best then I am satisfied lah.

yups, gonna have new litter... should be Sp Black.... you like Sp Black? Heheheh...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 16 2007, 07:29 PM)
poor thing... today little baby boy joined his sister up in heaven.... well, I tried my best but can't be saved even through handfeeding....

Now this is why breeding can lead to heartache....
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owh...hun...i am so sorry to hear that news..
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What's the sp black 'sp' stands for?
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by refering the first page..
i think "sp" stand for "spotted"
sp black = spotted black..
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 16 2007, 07:26 PM)
Yah, as long tried the best then I am satisfied lah.

yups, gonna have new litter... should be Sp Black.... you like Sp Black? Heheheh...
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spotted.
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Hahah.... I LOVE to tempt people with gerbils heheheheh....

Anyway, I am trying my luck with Silver coz he is a very lovely Sp Dove... would be a waste not to breed him so I thought why not try with my Junior who just matured enough to be mated... eventhough the litter may be black... but I am hoping for 1 good spotted or pied to come out if possible.
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Is this the pair for the next litter you're talking in the previous posts?
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Yups.... saw them mated so cross fingers... hope jadi lah hahahah... coz i am dreaming of getting a good pied black. I love blacks... later you see rabbit thread and view my rabbit pics. All black black LOL.
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QUOTE(kaylong @ Feb 16 2007, 09:13 PM)
HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR GUYS N GURLS....!!

nezu my boys good to each other...
wait till change the bedding than let them all out..
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Yups.... saw them mated so cross fingers... hope jadi lah hahahah... coz i am dreaming of getting a good pied black. I love blacks... later you see rabbit thread and view my rabbit pics. All black black LOL.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 16 2007, 09:52 PM)
Nah... my rabbits all long time with me already hahaah... Gerbils are newer than rabbits heheheh. Now you know why I like black gerbils....
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crazymouse just curious.. i know u got rabbits, hamsters, gerbils, hedgehogs... and perhaps sugar glider right... are there anymore pets you still have. blink.gif seems like you can even open your own 'mini small pet zoo'...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 16 2007, 06:29 PM)
poor thing... today little baby boy joined his sister up in heaven.... well, I tried my best but can't be saved even through handfeeding....

Now this is why breeding can lead to heartache....
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sorry for that... sometime they r too small.. i found that when mama going to give birth, give her alot of protein n water or vit liquid do help alot, they drink alot at that stange.

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Well, to be a breeder one would experience such loses...

Well, now left with my lil 3 week old nutmeg boy.... then I am gonna expect some litters in mid or end of March too.
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3weeks should be fine.. well feed right?

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 16 2007, 08:38 PM)
Hahah.... I LOVE to tempt people with gerbils heheheheh....

Anyway, I am trying my luck with Silver coz he is a very lovely Sp Dove... would be a waste not to breed him so I thought why not try with my Junior who just matured enough to be mated... eventhough the litter may be black... but I am hoping for 1 good spotted or pied to come out if possible.
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Junior is what colot ah?


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HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR GUYS N GURLS....!!

nezu my boys good to each other...
wait till change the bedding than let them all out..
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 16 2007, 10:20 PM)
crazymouse just curious.. i know u got rabbits, hamsters, gerbils, hedgehogs... and perhaps sugar glider right... are there anymore pets you still have.  blink.gif seems like you can even open your own 'mini small pet zoo'...
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it will be difficult for u to name anything she don't hv..lol

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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 16 2007, 10:20 PM)
crazymouse just curious.. i know u got rabbits, hamsters, gerbils, hedgehogs... and perhaps sugar glider right... are there anymore pets you still have.  blink.gif seems like you can even open your own 'mini small pet zoo'...
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Hahaha... too many to list down... got too many hahahah...

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 16 2007, 10:28 PM)
sorry for that... sometime they r too small.. i found that when mama going to give birth, give her alot of protein n water or vit liquid do help alot, they drink alot at that stange.
3weeks should be fine.. well feed right?
Junior is what colot ah?
good news.. smile.gif hope they get along well n u hv the fun!


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it will be difficult for u to name anything she don't hv..lol
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Got.... she got lots of dog kibble, vege and water bottle with vitamin.... just dunno why happen like that.... maybe she not ready since 1st litter... sigh...

Yah, nutmeg boy is cute cute.... he knows how to eat and he squeaks when I hold him hahahah....

Junior is Stormy's daughter.... going to 5 months old.... no Pp lah but then I want to see if she can follow Stormy at producing lovely spotteds....
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Hope can get lah.... Junior is sp black.... actually I wanted to mate with Beene wan... but she dun accept Silver loh.... so no choice, use Junior....
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Yah... Beene would give more colour loh.... see lah, I will try again.... just she fight with Silver everytime... scary coz one time bite the ear till tear a bit.
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Yah... Beene would give more colour loh.... see lah, I will try again.... just she fight with Silver everytime... scary coz one time bite the ear till tear a bit.
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Big eyes loh.... hheheh, this is why I like black eyed gerbil... got big big black eyes hahahah.... no mata sepet wan.
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Sepet a bit lah heheheh... but they won't be as large and round as black eyes.
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I would like to go to crazymouse's house one day. Surely like a mini zoo. hahah..

erm.. wanna ask arr.. in the wild, gerbils live in colony?
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 17 2007, 02:08 AM)
I would like to go to crazymouse's house one day. Surely like a mini zoo. hahah..

erm.. wanna ask arr.. in the wild, gerbils live in colony?
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Happy cny to all gerbils, hamsters, rabbits, bla bla... and all other animals crazymouse owns which I can't name... and also happy cny to the owners. LOL..
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Happy Chinese New year everyone! Enjoy the holidays.
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gong xi fa cai...
buah limau buah limau...i want buah limau..
lets go raya to hun hause..then foo..and all our chinese frends..hohoho
but when i come all dogs must be simpan aaa...

oh ya..actually if gerbill really dont bite??
few days ago..a freind visit me..and my pets..after play with hamster.. i give him chance to hold gerbils...
but..then bitten by the gerbils...banyak blood come out..kesian him..
me myself aa if i compare..the gerbils bite more danger than hamster bite aa.


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kembara, too much blood?? the sound so scary ler..
luckily my gerbil didnt bite me, even when she has a newborn pups..

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Hmmm... that is strange... but then maybe your friend's hands got some predator smell or food smell... so they bite. Gerbils do not bite without a reason. I got so many, not one has ever bitten me or my friends that come to play. I even let little kids handle them hahahah....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 20 2007, 12:20 PM)
Hmmm... that is strange... but then maybe your friend's hands got some predator smell or food smell... so they bite. Gerbils do not bite without a reason. I got so many, not one has ever bitten me or my friends that come to play. I even let little kids handle them hahahah....
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No gerbils ever bite me. But a few friends had the privileges though!
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ermm... hmm.gif then may be my gerbil is not normal gerbil aaaa....
may be other animals...bcoz they are so different from your all gerbils... sad.gif
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You did mentioned that they played with your hamsters first.. maybe their hands have hamster smell which your gerbil don't like.
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 20 2007, 01:26 PM)
You did mentioned that they played with your hamsters first.. maybe their hands have hamster smell which your gerbil don't like.
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usually, after playing with my hamsters, i never wash my hand.. just directly playing with my gerbil..

erm, if it is the cause.. so, i have to wash my hand every single time..
avoid from bitten.. smile.gif
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aiyo, now my gerbils so clever. alwayz wan to knock the glass lid to escape. and the banging sound was so so loud.
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 20 2007, 01:26 PM)
You did mentioned that they played with your hamsters first.. maybe their hands have hamster smell which your gerbil don't like.
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owh...thats can be one of the reason...
i think it is the cause..hamsters' smell... blink.gif thanks blueheng

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usually, after playing with my hamsters, i never wash my hand.. just directly playing with my gerbil..

erm, if it is the cause.. so, i have to wash my hand every single time..
avoid from bitten..  smile.gif
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whistling.gif a person has bitten by my gerbil,and got bleed to..even before that he dont play with hamster...i wonder who is him.. whistling.gif
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ya, your gerbil bite me before.. so bad.. sad.gif
you remind me that accident which occured last year.. haha.. tongue.gif

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yes dien..but the friend yg baru kena bite lagi teruk from u...
lot of blood...eiiii..cannot imagine la
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i will pengsan if see too much blood.. hehe.. tongue.gif

eh kembara, your gerbils didnt bite you ke??
ask them to bite you la once.. hehe..

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if they bite me i jentik their kepala...
they bite once but not until bleed la
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aiyo, now my gerbils so clever. alwayz wan to knock the glass lid to escape. and the banging sound was so so loud.
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heheh thats y i always say, don't use the lid tongue.gif they will know there can open.. open the whole cover n play.. they will never bang the cover n lid.


gerbil or any animal with teeth will bite, don't expect 100% no bite. but gerbils rarely bite, if the breeding take seriously. breeding a good temp pair is also very important part, cos kids will learn from parents smile.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 22 2007, 10:41 PM)
heheh thats y i always say, don't use the lid tongue.gif they will know there can open..  open the whole cover n play.. they will never bang the cover n lid.
gerbil or any animal with teeth will bite, don't expect 100% no bite.  but gerbils rarely bite, if the breeding take seriously.  breeding a good temp pair is also very important part, cos kids will learn from parents smile.gif
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Gerbils are THAT smart?! blink.gif hoho... eh nezu i'll send the pics to you soon. These days busy.. cny..lol..sorry
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yes gerbils r smart! hehehe.. if u use the lid they will start banging it n run out.
ok wait for ur pic!
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this thread become slow aaa...
our friend still celebrating gong xi fa chai ke...
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 22 2007, 10:41 PM)
heheh thats y i always say, don't use the lid tongue.gif they will know there can open..  open the whole cover n play.. they will never bang the cover n lid.

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lol...looks like now need to wash their mind liao. anyway, is the air circulation good if use plastic lid?
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these some pictures of my newborn pups..
were taken two days ago..
erm, i noticed that there are two pattern of colors of them..
white and argente cream.. but, not too sure la..

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The white should be Pink eyed White and the other color should be Argente Cream... smile.gif

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The white should be Pink eyed White and the other color should be Argente Cream... smile.gif
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oic.. thank you for your info..
as what i thought before.. smile.gif

there are no sp argente?? haha tongue.gif

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waa dien...so envy la...now has gerbils pup...
you poisoned me to find a male gerbil for my girls..
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oic.. thank you for your info..
as what i thought before..  smile.gif

there are no sp argente?? haha  tongue.gif
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congrate! if parents no sp then no sp loh.
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i dont know the color of the male (their father) is..

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A nice update, looks like Nescafe is pregnant!!!! Hope got a yellow fox or red fox hahhah...

QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 22 2007, 10:53 PM)
Gerbils are THAT smart?!  blink.gif hoho... eh nezu i'll send the pics to you soon. These days busy.. cny..lol..sorry
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Yups, gerbils are very smart. They know how to figure out how to even reach the top of the cover to chew.... mine even climb up their coconut chain to try and open the plastic cover door...

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lol...looks like now need to wash their mind liao. anyway, is the air circulation good if use plastic lid?
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these some pictures of my newborn pups..
were taken two days ago..
erm, i noticed that there are two pattern of colors of them..
white and argente cream.. but, not too sure la..
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Congrats... like what Jas said... looks like PEW and Argente creams...

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Congrats... like what Jas said... looks like PEW and Argente creams...
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i have to buy another tank after this.. to saperate the male pups from their mom..
erm, when should i separate them (male pups) avoiding from "tut".. hehe.. tongue.gif
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Should seperate when they are 6 to 8 weeks old... normally the males will feel horny around that time lah. I seperate at 8 weeks old.
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QUOTE(SoulReaver @ Feb 24 2007, 12:14 AM)
interested in gerbils..... cuz living in condo, many restrictions, no dogs, no cats >.<" how or where can i get a pair?
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QUOTE(SoulReaver @ Feb 24 2007, 12:14 AM)
interested in gerbils..... cuz living in condo, many restrictions, no dogs, no cats >.<" how or where can i get a pair?
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Wah... ask me then ask here LOL... recommend never to get from petshops coz they are not always healthy and also many are inbreed... well, so far the only petshop I trust to get gerbils is petswonderland and pet family... but I don't need petshops anymore since I have many many gerbils....

Already 2 new DEH pups.... a female that is pregnant and also 4 still looking for homes hahahah... so many...
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 23 2007, 10:53 PM)
ok.. thank you..

i have to buy another tank after this.. to saperate the male pups from their mom..
erm, when should i separate them (male pups) avoiding from "tut".. hehe..  tongue.gif
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i seperate at 6 weeks usually. Coz I will intro the male pups to my male clan, easier for them to accept younger pups. If you are just seperating all the male siblings away from the mum you can wait longer la, but not longer than 10 weeks... sometimes they might mate with the mum if the dad is not around when they reach that age.
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crazymouse.... u got spotted aggouti? (spelled wrong rite><?) i wanna buy... ( unless u gimme for FREE) kekeke.. jkjk....

Cant wait to get my hands on it =X
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Hahaha... spotteds are hard to come by since it is very few in litters... so most breeders would sell expensive or have very few to offer. Spotted gerbils are really nice hahahah...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 24 2007, 12:24 AM)
Should seperate when they are 6 to 8 weeks old... normally the males will feel horny around that time lah. I seperate at 8 weeks old.
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i seperate at 6 weeks usually. Coz I will intro the male pups to my male clan, easier for them to accept younger pups. If you are just seperating all the male siblings away from the mum you can wait longer la, but not longer than 10 weeks... sometimes they might mate with the mum if the dad is not around when they reach that age.
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ok.. within 6 to 10 weeks..
then, no need to rush in buying a new tank.. hehe..

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Hahaha... spotteds are hard to come by since it is very few in litters... so most breeders would sell expensive or have very few to offer. Spotted gerbils are really nice hahahah...
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oic.. usually how much they sell sp?? blush.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 24 2007, 01:33 AM)
Wah... ask me then ask here LOL... recommend never to get from petshops coz they are not always healthy and also many are inbreed... well, so far the only petshop I trust to get gerbils is petswonderland and pet family... but I don't need petshops anymore since I have many many gerbils....

Already 2 new DEH pups.... a female that is pregnant and also 4 still looking for homes hahahah... so many...
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i think what i read is rite,,,
so hun...four still looking for home..what color are they??
i feel like want to add one of the four gerbil into my collection..can i?
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question: is it strange if the mom "hides" her pups..
erm, i mean.. she doesnt put one of her pups in the hide house (aroma burner).. i dont know where she hides it.. i tried to find it under the bedding, but didnt get it.. at the next day, i found that all pups still available.. the one that "lost" also there..

where is it actually?? is it the mom puts it under the bedding?? but why i didnt find it??
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Wah... my gerbils destroyed 2 bottles in just one week...
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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 25 2007, 11:29 AM)
hehehe brows.gif
i think what i read is rite,,,
so hun...four still looking for home..what color are they??
i feel like want to add one of the four  gerbil into my collection..can i?
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question: is it strange if the mom "hides" her pups..
erm, i mean.. she doesnt put one of her pups in the hide house (aroma burner).. i dont know where she hides it.. i tried to find it under the bedding, but didnt get it.. at the next day, i found that all pups still available.. the one that "lost" also there..

where is it actually?? is it the mom puts it under the bedding?? but why i didnt find it??
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You asked about Sp... the price varies upon markings and colour... for us breeders lah, petshops you will rarely find Sp... anyway... price is around RM30 to Rm40.

Yes, the mother hides her pups. They will never place the pup in the burner since it is not what they like. Gerbils are burrowers so they normally in the wild will make nest that is underground.... since we keep them in captivity, we use woodshavings and it is not enough to make burrows. To let them tunnle and make a nest, you have to give about 10 inches of woodshavings mixed with shredded paper and hay. But if you do this, you will only get to see the gerbil pups when they are weaned and have the courage to come up to the surface of the woodshavings.

The gerbils we keep, if we put only 1 or 2 inches of woodshavings of course they cannot build such tunnles so in order to hide their babies they just bury them. Normally you should not put any burner or wooden house into the tank since it is a very dangerous time. If the mother were to kick the pup under the burner, it can suffocate and die.... well, it happened to one of my pups that was under a friend's care and the pup already open eyes and was 4 weeks old... so imagine, already 4 week old and the pup can die.... so better be careful lah.

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Wah... my gerbils destroyed 2 bottles in just one week...
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Wah... what type of bottle? If they destroy bottles that you hang inside, maybe it is time for you to burn holes to place bottle from the outside.... hehehe... coz happened to me... 2 bottles gone so 3rd bottle is outside.
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 25 2007, 02:21 AM)
ok.. within 6 to 10 weeks..
then, no need to rush in buying a new tank.. hehe..
oic.. usually how much they sell sp??  blush.gif
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pets wonderland rm48... but for now i think they only have sp agouti, not very nice sp also... just slightly spotted.

QUOTE(hao @ Feb 25 2007, 07:07 PM)
Wah... my gerbils destroyed 2 bottles in just one week...
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Mine destroyed another bottle last week too. Some of my bottles I put a wir emesh cover for it so they cant chew at the bottle, but some of mine tend to hang on the bottle and shake it, then all the water comes out, haha...so notty
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 25 2007, 09:28 PM)
Wah... what type of bottle? If they destroy bottles that you hang inside, maybe it is time for you to burn holes to place bottle from the outside.... hehehe... coz happened to me... 2 bottles gone so 3rd bottle is outside.
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The plastic type we used to see in petshops lor... I don't want to burn holes ler, sakit hati to do that... lol


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Mine destroyed another bottle last week too. Some of my bottles I put a wir emesh cover for it so they cant chew at the bottle, but some of  mine tend to hang on the bottle and shake it, then all the water comes out, haha...so notty
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I'm thinking of putting a wire mesh to cover the bottle as well...
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Hao u try Jas way lah, sound good ah canot bike.
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foo, where you go wor? hahaha

Yea, going to try Jas's way. Actually I wanted to try it long time ago but not free...
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not easy to do the wire mesh cover for the bottle though...took quite some time n some poked fingers from the mesh edges..haha..the problem is making the cover "sharp edges" free..coz the ends of the wire mesh will poke out..then hav to bend it one by one

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 26 2007, 11:17 AM)
not easy to do the wire mesh cover for the bottle though...took quite some time n some poked fingers from the mesh edges..haha..the problem is making the cover "sharp edges" free..coz the ends of the wire mesh will poke out..then hav to bend it one by one
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Hehe.. my bottle wire mesh cover top slightly rusty adi..coz my gerbil always hang on top n chew chew chew everyday..hope the gerbils dont die from poisoning.... terrible la them
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Jas, can show how you make it with close-up shots or not? As reference tongue.gif
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can... but u hav to wait till i get home... hehe, i din take pics of it b4

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Haha... no problem, i can wait... i oso won't do that fast, have to wait i'm free first...
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Felt so lazy today hahahah.... well, at least my gerbils keep me active at home. Now patiently awaiting for the new pups to be born... so excited.
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Expected to be borned today?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 26 2007, 06:41 PM)
Felt so lazy today hahahah.... well, at least my gerbils keep me active at home. Now patiently awaiting for the new pups to be born... so excited.
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Hehe~ You wait new pups, I wait for next Sims 2 expansion came out tomorrow! I CANT SLEEP! ARGHHH!

Oh, this week need to shop for the boys supplies. I guess I'll be at Pets Wonderland Midvalley on Friday tongue.gif.

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hy guys...little bit busy la nowdays...lot of asgments and test..
ermm...everybody have fun with newborn..waiting for newbies..and me...with two still no tamed females...but the black one start growing chubby la..last nite i hold him can squeeze squeeze la little bit..heheh...i am thinking to find a male..

emino,
i heard petswonderland midvalley close for a while la...

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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 26 2007, 07:18 PM)
i heard petswonderland midvalley close for a while la...
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Should be open by Friday I think, most Chinese-owned company has started to re-open by today.
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i think not bcoz chinese new year..
renovation i think..if not mistaken i read that from this forum also la..
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 25 2007, 10:28 PM)
You asked about Sp... the price varies upon markings and colour... for us breeders lah, petshops you will rarely find Sp... anyway... price is around RM30 to Rm40.

Yes, the mother hides her pups. They will never place the pup in the burner since it is not what they like. Gerbils are burrowers so they normally in the wild will make nest that is underground.... since we keep them in captivity, we use woodshavings and it is not enough to make burrows. To let them tunnle and make a nest, you have to give about 10 inches of woodshavings mixed with shredded paper and hay. But if you do this, you will only get to see the gerbil pups when they are weaned and have the courage to come up to the surface of the woodshavings.

The gerbils we keep, if we put only 1 or 2 inches of woodshavings of course they cannot build such tunnles so in order to hide their babies they just bury them. Normally you should not put any burner or wooden house into the tank since it is a very dangerous time. If the mother were to kick the pup under the burner, it can suffocate and die.... well, it happened to one of my pups that was under a friend's care and the pup already open eyes and was 4 weeks old... so imagine, already 4 week old and the pup can die.... so better be careful lah.
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oo like this aa.. this happened again yesterday.. and when i woke up from sleep, all 4 were there..
after this, i'll take out the aroma burner..
and want to add some bedding la.. hehe.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 26 2007, 08:08 PM)
Yeap, PWMV is having renovation, but don't know when it's going to open tongue.gif
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Somewhere april if I'm not mistaken. Check the notice outside of PW1U..
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 26 2007, 06:49 PM)
Expected to be borned today?
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Nah... not so soon.... maybe 4 days to a week... she is growing bigger a bit everyday, wonder how many pups since it is your DEH and Agouti's mom. Nescafe very good mom since brought up 7 pups before heheheh....

QUOTE(emino @ Feb 26 2007, 07:10 PM)
Hehe~ You wait new pups, I wait for next Sims 2 expansion came out tomorrow! I CANT SLEEP! ARGHHH!

Oh, this week need to shop for the boys supplies. I guess I'll be at Pets Wonderland Midvalley on Friday tongue.gif.
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Hahahah... you and Sims... sure if I go into Sims I'll be addicted coz it happened long time ago hahahh...

Pets Wonderland closed down for Renovation, better you try other place for your supplies. Maybe Pet Safari or Pet Family?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 26 2007, 08:46 PM)
Nah... not so soon.... maybe 4 days to a week... she is growing bigger a bit everyday, wonder how many pups since it is your DEH and Agouti's mom. Nescafe very good mom since brought up 7 pups before heheheh....
Hahahah... you and Sims... sure if I go into Sims I'll be addicted coz it happened long time ago hahahh...

Pets Wonderland closed down for Renovation, better you try other place for your supplies. Maybe Pet Safari or Pet Family?
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Ahhh! If closed down then I dunno where to get ler!!!
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QUOTE(emino @ Feb 26 2007, 09:01 PM)
Ahhh! If closed down then I dunno where to get ler!!!
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Pet Safari lor... take PUTRA to Kelana Jaya station and wait for the free bus, fetch you til Ikano's front door.
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Pet Safari lor... take PUTRA to Kelana Jaya station and wait for the free bus, fetch you til Ikano's front door.
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NO! NOT PUBLIC TRANSPORT! *dies*
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Hahaha... if no choice then public transport lah.... I already biasa with public transport. Just last week I carried 10kg of supplies back home by myself thru LRT heheheh....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 26 2007, 09:28 PM)
Hahaha... if no choice then public transport lah.... I already biasa with public transport. Just last week I carried 10kg of supplies back home by myself thru LRT heheheh....
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Hahah... nah, not wonder woman lah... i'm not a fit person.... but I was pretty amazed that I carried 5kg of sand, 4 kg of hamster food and 2 pieces of driftwood plus 6L of cat litter LOL... but luckily cat litter was light.
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haha... i always get people to help me carry... if i go pet stuff shopping myself I seldom buy more than 4 kg.... too heavy la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 26 2007, 09:28 PM)
Hahaha... if no choice then public transport lah.... I already biasa with public transport. Just last week I carried 10kg of supplies back home by myself thru LRT heheheh....
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Hahaha... sometimes really no choice lar... still remember last time i got the gerbils from you? 4 gerbils, 1 bag 4kg of woodshaving, 1 bag of hay and two bags of staple food all the way from Ikano to Melaka... wah... really tiring... lol

Oh ya hun, last time the hay you recommend me which ran out of stock that day, what's that ar?
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haha... i always get people to help me carry... if i go pet stuff shopping myself I seldom buy more than 4 kg.... too heavy la tongue.gif
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Hahah.. you got people help loh... me always alone cry.gif

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Hahaha... sometimes really no choice lar... still remember last time i got the gerbils from you? 4 gerbils, 1 bag 4kg of woodshaving, 1 bag of hay and two bags of staple food all the way from Ikano to Melaka... wah... really tiring... lol

Oh ya hun, last time the hay you recommend me which ran out of stock that day, what's that ar?
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Yah... you the best of all coz all the way to Malacca heheheh...

Oh... well, you can use HayPro but expensive now.... better get Kool Bunny brand... Timothy or Alfalfa or Ochard hay is good. Ochard hay is cheaper... Rm16 or RM14 for 1kg...

The other hay is the bedding hay by Sluis... that's the one I recommended Rm9 something for 1 bale.... alot of hay that one.
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Yah... you the best of all coz all the way to Malacca heheheh...

Oh... well, you can use HayPro but expensive now.... better get Kool Bunny brand... Timothy or Alfalfa or Ochard hay is good. Ochard hay is cheaper... Rm16 or RM14 for 1kg...

The other hay is the bedding hay by Sluis... that's the one I recommended Rm9 something for 1 bale.... alot of hay that one.
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Oh i see... I don't think i can find it in Melaka. The supplies i got that is still enough, no need to worry about that yet... hahaha...
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Oh i see... I don't think i can find it in Melaka. The supplies i got that is still enough, no need to worry about that yet... hahaha...
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 26 2007, 11:53 PM)
So you plan to come all the way here just to buy supplies for your pet?
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Yea if i can't find what i want in Melaka smile.gif
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Here's one of my duprasis. Their fur is darn soft, like chinchilla fur. wub.gif

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QUOTE(Reanne @ Feb 27 2007, 03:48 AM)
Here's one of my duprasis. Their fur is darn soft, like chinchilla fur. wub.gif
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durapsi are cute...but i cannot really agree with the price huhuhu
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The price is actually quite reasonable since duprasis are harder to breed... also most duprasis are wild caught so if someone were to successfully breed them and hand tame them for you, then yes, it is worth it. They also can live longer, around 7 years ahahahah...

They are only available in 1 colour, the sandy brown since they are originally wild animal taken into captivity. Only hamsters, rats, mice, mongolian gerbils and guinea pigs have many colours because they were bred and used for experiements in labs and people mixbreed and inbreed to develop mutation colours.

To me... mongolian gerbil is more active and livelier to watch but duprasi damn cute to watch it sleep and eat. It's solitary and sleeps often... but very adorable.

We are lucky to have duprasis here since Singapore already no one selling them.
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hun, if only sleep and eat, then very similar habit to syrian hamster la...

our malaysia dont care sangat about brought animals in...they only care when people want brough out la huhu tongue.gif

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Many people in Singapore had them hahahah.... many people used to have them but then nobody bred them properly so their population and popularity died down loh...

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foo, where you go wor? hahaha

Yea, going to try Jas's way. Actually I wanted to try it long time ago but not free...
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to any sifus here... what is the best colour to pair with sp black... and what is the possible colours of their offsprings...?
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hv to see what gene ur sp black carrying.
it can give u alots of colors, also can only give u one color smile.gif

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hv to see what gene ur sp black carrying.
it can give u alots of colors, also can only give u one color smile.gif
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hv to see their parents, it their parents are in the right pair, then u will know the kid genes.

black is an aa C- E- G- P-, then its better u pair with an A- C- E- G- P- or a pp if u can get. but again its also depance on the A- carrier gerbils is carrying AA or Aa.

if its an AA gerbil, then u will only get A- pups.
if its an Aa gerbil, then u will get A- aa pups.
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waaa... that complicated meh... how to know what gene they are carrying...? hmm.gif
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hv to see their parents, it their parents are in the right pair, then u will know the kid genes.

black is an aa C- E- G- P-, then its better u pair with an A- C- E- G- P- or a pp if u can get.  but again its also depance on the A- carrier gerbils is carrying AA or Aa.

if its an AA gerbil, then u will only get A- pups.
if its an Aa gerbil, then u will get A- aa pups.
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In other words, you have to know the parentage of your sp black, if he had a pp gene parent, he will also carry Pp.. which can give you red eyed pups as well as black eyed if paired with a red eyed gerbil or a black eye with Pp. So you will have at least 2 colors of pups la. However even if one of the sp blacks parent is AA or Aa, you sp black will not have A- gene.. blacks are always aa(self color).. so if you want A- pups, you have to pair it with a non self gerbil ( AA or Aa).

If you dont know the parantage it helps if you know what color are the siblings of your gerbil too.

ultimately its up to what colors you wish to get, are u aiming for a specific color or a vareity of colors in the same litter.

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so, let say if i want to have sp black... and i only have all-black (aa), that means i have to pair with AA or Aa of any colour or sp black only...?
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1st of all, what color pups would you like to see in babies? if you want red eyed babies, you must make sure your sp black has at least 1 red eyed parent. if you want DEH or nutmeg babies, you must get an sp black with at least 1 deh or nutmeg parent.

If your sp black has black/agouti parents, I'm afraid theres not much colors other than black/agouti that will come out in your pups no matter what you pair to it. sp blacks generally dont give good colors unless they have the resessive genes required for it.
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u put a aa sp black with an other aa, then can get black oledi, but sp or not hv to see how strong is the sp gene. if sp is not strong then will become ur avatart ALL BLACK. putting an A- gerbil can give u A- & aa pup, but also can be all A- pups. if ur goal is so low, u only want black any aa will do, n better get an aa PP then sure u get blacks. n also if the sp on the sp black it not a nice one, it will make u a few generation to improve the sp gene, again it hv to be a strong sp gene. n breeding the generation u will need to get more breeding pair to avoid inbreeding.

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do u mind telling me what is the combination of colours that can provide various sp colour (such as sp argente, sp agouti, sp DEH & sp lilac)...? tq

p/s: still trying to understand the gerbils genetic... hmm.gif


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u put a aa sp black with an other aa, then can get black oledi, but sp or not hv to see how strong is the sp gene.  if sp is not strong then will become ur avatart ALL BLACK. putting an A- gerbil can give u A- & aa pup, but also can be all A- pups. if ur goal is so low, u only want black any aa will do, n better get an aa PP then sure u get blacks. n also if the sp on the sp black it not a nice one, it will make u a few generation to improve the sp gene, again it hv to be a string sp gene.  n breeding the generation u will need to get more breeding pair to avoid inbreeding.
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no no... no 'self' gerbil for me... sp gerbils attract me the most... nod.gif

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QUOTE(arraille @ Feb 27 2007, 04:55 PM)
do u mind telling me what is the combination of colours that can provide various sp colour (such as sp argente, sp agouti, sp DEH & sp lilac)...? tq

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no no... no 'self' gerbil for me... sp gerbils attract me the most... nod.gif
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uh, self doesnt mean no sp... all black gerbils are self, regardless sp or no sp. self means top n bottom coat color are same. if u want to breed sp gerbils... breeding sp x sp will give you 3/4 sp pups... sp x non sp will give you around 50% sp pups.

if u want lilac, deh... you have to start with lilac and deh... dont expect tat a sp black can give you lilac or deh unless it has lilac/deh parents.. then also u have to mate it to lilac or deh in order to get what you want.

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sp gerbils will give plain color gerbils, its just depance where the sp drop. u wouldn't get 100% sp pups. n there is no certain combination pair will give u certain pups, all depance on the gene they carrying.

its just like normaly black X black give u black, but my black X black with u white n red eye. breeding gerbil is non 1 pair story. u hv to get a few good n right pair inorder to get the color u want in the 3rd generation.

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 27 2007, 05:04 PM)
uh, self doesnt mean no sp... all black gerbils are self, regardless sp or no sp. self means top n bottom coat color are same. if u want to breed sp gerbils... breeding sp x sp will give you 3/4 sp pups... sp x non sp will give you around 50% sp pups.
if u want lilac, deh... you have to start with lilac and deh... dont expect tat a sp black can give you lilac or deh unless it has lilac/deh parents.. then also u have to mate it to lilac or deh in order to get what you want.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 27 2007, 05:05 PM)
sp gerbils will give plain color gerbils, its just depance where the sp drop.  u wouldn't get 100% sp pups.  n there is no certain combination pair will give u certain pups, all depance on the gene they carrying.
its just like normaly black X black give u black, but my black X black with u white n red eye.  breeding gerbil is non 1 pair story.  u hv to get a few good n right pair inorder to get the color u want in the 3rd generation.
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thanks guys... i get the rough picture already and i think i know what colours i need for the 'starter'... notworthy.gif

p/s: need to continue reading about gerbils gene after this... sweat.gif
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Hahah... another person that wants to try breeding.... Breeding properly never stops with 1 pair.... it goes on and on and on.... I can say Thank Goodness I poisoned Foo and Jas into gerbils, if not, I don't think we will ever have such nice colours available or even have a market for gerbils in petshops.

Another thing... if pair sp with non-sp... not always will have 50% sp pups... I got a litter with only 1 sp out of 5 pups... sometimes I think it depends on the background of the parent gerbils and also how strong the sp is. For now, I'm keeping my fingers crossed in hoping to get some nice Sp in the upcoming litters.

Hahahah... but my dream is to get another yellow fox and another red fox. Truly beautiful colours that must have more. Now only 1 yellow fox and 1 red fox...

Anyway, I just went to Petaling Street.... still all Argente Gerbils, they do carry Ch coz the colour is not vibrant but the condition... aiyoh... hairless tails... can see the young ones are about 5 months old already... still none sold.
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aiyah so sad, my dreak koyak oledi, the agouti pup is an agouti, not grey agouti, gold fur come out sad.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 28 2007, 10:34 AM)
aiyah so sad, my dreak koyak oledi, the agouti pup is an agouti, not grey agouti, gold fur come out sad.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 27 2007, 09:06 PM)
Hahah... another person that wants to try breeding.... Breeding properly never stops with 1 pair.... it goes on and on and on.... I can say Thank Goodness I poisoned Foo and Jas into gerbils, if not, I don't think we will ever have such nice colours available or even have a market for gerbils in petshops.

Another thing... if pair sp with non-sp... not always will have 50% sp pups... I got a litter with only 1 sp out of 5 pups... sometimes I think it depends on the background of the parent gerbils and also how strong the sp is. For now, I'm keeping my fingers crossed in hoping to get some nice Sp in the upcoming litters.
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agree... actually it depends on which gene is stronger... no 100% guarantee, but the chances is still there...

even my ayam serama that have yellow parents sometimes do have black colour chicks... most probably the gene is from the great grandparents, coz both parents of the Dam & Sire is not black also... juz one example that offsprings won't be 100% like parents... the bloodline also play an important role...

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dont be sad la...gold fur is  beautiful also..
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but the aim is in grey agouti n slate... others are too much oledi hahah..

of cos all colors are beautiful, cos every color is a study..smile.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 28 2007, 10:08 AM)
but the aim is in grey agouti n slate...
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grey agouti
http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/gray_agouti.html

slate
http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/slate.html
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waaa... i love sp slate... drool.gif

doesn't grey agouti look almost like lilac...? correct me if i'm wrong... hmm.gif
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grey agouti:
http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/gray_agouti.html

Lilac:
http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/lilac.html

totally difference. one black eye one red eye, one solid, one white belly. one full grey, one mix fur. hehhehe..
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foo... any chances on u getting the slate or sp slate...? brows.gif
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lol depance on my gerbil how many pups they can make hahhaa....
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lol sorry, even got also for myself 1st HAHAHAHa.... brows.gif

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lol sorry, even got also for myself 1st HAHAHAHa....  brows.gif
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aiyaaa... readix why u tell in public... see, she knows already now... doh.gif

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Hahaha... was hoping to get grey agouti and slate... damn hard to get. Well, anything that is new colour sure lah the breeder simpan. We are all hobbyist breeders... even if got someone offer me RM100 for my re fox and yellow fox I also won't part heheheh...
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that's y we need to kidnap those babies!!!  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 28 2007, 09:31 PM)
Hun, how bout RM101? brows.gif

Hahahahaha
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1000000000001 also no way hahahaha...namo namo namo for my grey agotui n slate for the coming 3 mths!
but can reserve for the 2nd one hahahhaa... but hv to be good owner also.. if not still canot ahaha..

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how much Breeder Celect cost per kg...? if almost like Woody Pet (big bag ><rm3 plus/kg & small bag ><rm5 /kg) i think i'll give it a try...

btw... do gerbils can stay in aircond room at night...? hmm.gif

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readix everytime told us want to kidnap foo's gerbil...
but until today not even kidnap foo's gerbils fur..even a fur sehelai pun x dapat hahahahah
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QUOTE(arraille @ Mar 1 2007, 03:17 PM)
how much Breeder Celect cost per kg...? if almost like Woody Pet (big bag ><rm3 plus/kg & small bag ><rm5 /kg) i think i'll give it a try...

btw... do gerbils can stay in aircond room at night...? hmm.gif
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BC 2kg(5L) - RM18+
BC 5kg(15L) - RM45+
BC 11.6kg(35L) - RM90+

Woody pet 13.6kg - RM50

Now I'm trying to save cost, buying BC and woody pet and mix together. Not bad, still waiting to see how long it lasts.

Woody pet is RM3.6/kg
BC is RM7.75/kg

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QUOTE(Reanne @ Mar 1 2007, 03:39 PM)
BC 2kg(5L) - RM18+
BC 5kg(15L) - RM45+
BC 11.6kg(35L) - RM90+
Woody pet 13.6kg - RM50
Now I'm trying to save cost, buying BC and woody pet and mix together. Not bad, still waiting to see how long it lasts.
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Here's some info on BC

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it's normal lah like that... the better the things is the more expensive it will be... but for me, if i can still get the 2nd best is enough already... sweat.gif

p/s: later when i have extra cash, i'll give it a try la... biggrin.gif

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i've gone through the website juz now... amazing fact that attracts me is, it won't break down to dust when wet (Woody Pet does)... so Reanne, the prices of BC u posted are which petshop's price...? perhap i'll buy BC when my Woody Pet is running out... brows.gif

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Hey just wondering.. does the fat tail gerbil stink more or anything? LOL... must know how they smell first. Nowadays after using breeder's celect, my mom don't complain anymore. WW is staying in the living room.
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Not much smell... kinda similar to mongolians and the best is that you keep as single so the smells is very minimal... so far few days and I do not notice any smell... I use normal woodshavings summore hahahah.... but it lives in an old aquarium lah.
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arraille,

Nutmeg is the 3rd one in my signny, so if u say orange then nutmeg is out.

DEH n Argente,
DEH is with black eye
Argente is with ruby eye

both colors looks difference too. DEH hv a high belly line, while Argente line is low. also it color also affect by the line they r from, a good line will give u a very sharp color, a weak line will not. also it depance on their growing age nutrition intake. it is y ppl say, if u want to see the animal healty or not, look at their fur.

good nutrition, good health both colors give u very striking looks. smile.gif even BLACK can be very BEAUTIFUL, cos a good nice black give u a VERY shinny coat!
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arraille,
Nutmeg is the 3rd one in my signny, so if u say orange then nutmeg is out.
DEH n Argente,
DEH is with black eye
Argente is with ruby eye
both colors looks difference too. DEH hv a high belly line, while Argente line is low.  also it color also affect by the line they r from, a good line will give u a very sharp color, a weak line will not. also it depance on their growing age nutrition intake.  it is y ppl say, if u want to see the animal healty or not, look at their fur.
good nutrition, good health both colors give u very striking looks. smile.gif even BLACK can be very BEAUTIFUL, cos a good nice black give u a VERY shinny coat!
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arraille,

Nutmeg is the 3rd one in my signny, so if u say orange then nutmeg is out.

DEH n Argente,
DEH is with black eye
Argente is with ruby eye

both colors looks difference too. DEH hv a high belly line, while Argente line is low.  also it color also affect by the line they r from, a good line will give u a very sharp color, a weak line will not. also it depance on their growing age nutrition intake.  it is y ppl say, if u want to see the animal healty or not, look at their fur.

good nutrition, good health both colors give u very striking looks. smile.gif even BLACK can be very BEAUTIFUL, cos a good nice black give u a VERY shinny coat!
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Yah.... Nutmeg when baby only is orange... when adult, full of ticking. Now I got 1 nutmeg baby boy, he still haven't show ticking.... hope he is like his dad lah, not so much ticking heheheh....

I agree with saying black is beautiful.. the shine is so noticeable than other colours... like a sleek panther hahahah... but ah, everyone that comes to my house see my gerbils as rats and very scared to touch... LOL.... kesian my gerbils....
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hahahhaha after Kuri, i love heavy ticking nutmeg hahaha.. the darker the best LOL!!!!!

everyone come my house, go crazy witht he gerbils, they love them hahahha...
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kids always love animals..but sometimes they created problem to the animals la..squeeze squeeze

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HAhahahah... some say the nails very geli wor.... coz scratch them.. but I love my gerbils so much.. so cute... buy lots of vegie and food for them. Prelude's gerbils also fat fat from eating hahahah.... Now I just can't wait for Nescafe to pop.

Jas ah, Nescafe seems like gonna have a big litter again hehheheh... very big... you want any kid back?
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if got any fox then i want lo...hehe... shes preggy with whos kids? chokee is it?
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Heheh... yah, Chokee's kids... I'm also hoping for a fox.. if got also I'll let you and Foo have 1 heheheh.... pray got lah. Her tummy is very big and each day she is growing bigger. Every morning I always expect her to pop but she still big big.... hahah, can't wait heheheh... I just hope got female yellow fox or female red fox... so can do more breeding on this colour.
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how is chokee n his daugther doing? any more allergies? hope nescafe gives good pups again..hehe
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His daughter died.... sigh... I suspect from breathing problems... Chokee now on BC but still look small... Pumping him and Nescafe with lots of food and vegies... but he still look small. His Red fox son looks bigger than him.
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hope he gets better soon. hey wheres ur red fox photos? lemee seeeeee....hahahaha
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haha remember ar....

sorry about the loss of another gerbil, very kesian to see them when they are sick la...luckily my allergic gerbils are recovered already, since I started to use BC. on the other hand, my mouse got sick since I used BC... so weird la... i change bak to corncob for the mice adi... but shes not totally recovered yet, dunno its the bedding problem or her own self sick la
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hahah jas canot wait for fox, got fox spare jas 1st lah... me not in rush.. i work the g gene now.. e still long way to go
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Yah... everytime a gerbil dies from something, I'm always sad and sometimes think what did I do wrong... so kesian...

You mice sick from BC? weird.... now my mouse gave birth to 11 healthy pups... really cute and adorable hahahah...

Ok lah, if got only 1 fox, I give Jas first.

Jas, you want male or female?
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haha... whatever comes la... male would be better but if got female also no problem.

not confirm if my mouse is sick from BC..but i notice her breatning problems since i use BC... its not fully recovered now oso, so im not so sure lo..

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Speaking about squeezed by kids, my gerbils really kena tortured by the kids that went to visit my gf's house duing CNY. Now my gerbil skinny like stick, have to pump them over again. doh.gif
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yea my dads fren's daugther who came to visit also tortured my gerbil...haha... hopefully got over the trauma adi
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Why do ppl say male make better pet? Gerbils gender have diff character?
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Why do ppl say male make better pet? Gerbils gender have diff character?
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In the world of gerbil, female plays the leader role in the colony. So when females want to be the leader of the the colony, they'll start fighting over that place and lead to death. Males on the other hand is easily introduced but when they feel threatened by other gerbils, they'll start fighting too.
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in terms of pet...gender is not really an issue. in fact my females are tamer to humans than my males. however females are fiercer to each other..haha
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long time din come in liao
my gf gerbil now is like football team but luckily sell some already
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my gerbil i think safe with crazymouse... how's my gerbils hun? hehe
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Very safe heheheh... this year not many kids so I didn't let them handle any gerbils so all nice and fat. Your DEH is way fatter and bigger than your agouti lah.... but very cute when they play wrestling and sleep with each other.

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Why do ppl say male make better pet? Gerbils gender have diff character?
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In the world of gerbil, female plays the leader role in the colony. So when females want to be the leader of the the colony, they'll start fighting over that place and lead to death. Males on the other hand is easily introduced but when they feel threatened by other gerbils, they'll start fighting too.
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Yups, that is true. The females are very dominant, they will determin who is in and who is out of the colony... the alpha male will be dominated by the alpha female... but the dominant male will keep track of who mates with the alpha... normally the dominant male would not allow other matings with the alpha female...

Females and males all make good pets... it is just how you would have them only. Lets say if you want more than 2 gerbils but you want to purchase at different times, males would be better coz it is easier to introduce... females are a bit more aggressive towards new comers and they fight really badly too.... I have seen a few already...

QUOTE(BooMer86 @ Mar 2 2007, 04:05 PM)
long time din come in liao
my gf gerbil now is like football team but luckily sell some already
if not cant afford to feed them

btw, anyone kena gerbil bite b4?
me so far so good
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Wah, long time no see you here. So how many litters have your gf's gerbils produced? You got keep any?

So far I also have not been bitten before.
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heheh looks like many gerbils squeeze by children during CNY...
if my gerbils, they dont dare to touch la...my gerbils bite people hahaha..
btw i think the black one turn more fat..then she became more familiar with me i think..the agouti still not fat..i think since i got them, long time jugak..but both of them still like menyorok2 from me.. haiyaa..
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question..
let say if i separate the pups from their mom into two differents tank (one for male, and another one for female), then when i want to put the females back with their mom after a few months, is it not easy for them to introduce?? or they will be fight??
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ok.. thanks..
better not separate them la i think..

(hehe.. i dint breed her la.. i got her, and she is pregnent that time..
suddenly gave birth..)
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ok.. thanks..
better not separate them la i think..

(hehe.. i dint breed her la.. i got her, and she is pregnent that time..
suddenly gave birth..)
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Yah, I know hahaha... the previous owner mah.... well, what to do? Anyway, hope the babies are ok... just seperate the females with the mom and the males with the dad. So for you, 2 tanks is enough.
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how do u know who's the alpha male&female?
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Ok, some long awaited pictures heheheh.... my photobucket not working tonight... but load here lah...

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how do u know who's the alpha male&female?
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The ones that always fight or bully....

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Heheh... having 1 duprasi is really nice to see... they are so different from mongolians... but they are just so expensive hahaahh....

Red Fox is growing very well.... His name is Red... LOL... so not original at all but he is very red mah hahahaah.... hope will have more.
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Heheh... having 1 duprasi is really nice to see... they are so different from mongolians... but they are just so expensive hahaahh....

Red Fox is growing very well.... His name is Red... LOL... so not original at all but he is very red mah hahahaah.... hope will have more.
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my gerbil i think safe with crazymouse... how's my gerbils hun? hehe
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Why do ppl say male make better pet? Gerbils gender have diff character?
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to human both the same, for themself, if intro adult male is easier. female its better u get them when they r young.

QUOTE(BooMer86 @ Mar 2 2007, 04:05 PM)
long time din come in liao
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if not cant afford to feed them

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hmm i think really long time! cos i never see u hehhe... ur gf also breed huh? she color she has ah?

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question..
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if u put the females pups with mum, then remive the dad, if not u will risk the puos,

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how do u know who's the alpha male&female?
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the one always groom others

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Yay... some updates.

This morning Nescafe gave birth.... 6 healthy pups!!!! But only 1 red eyed and it is a female. I see a few dark coloured pups so it could be some blacks or agoutis.... there may be a DEH I think.... well, just born so cannot really see until a few more days later lah.

1 red eyed... hopefully is fox lah... if not then it would be maybe lilac...
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aiyohhh 1 red eye ah, neck really can be long oledi sad.gif
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hun,
congrats for new pups...need more tanks after this hehehe
and your nescafe picture just look like my black gerbil..different is yours just born new pups heheh...fox named come from fox color,rite??

foo,
alpha male/female the one who grooms other...
waa...excellent leader la...give services to citizens..
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new born pups again ~~ "yi sheun moon tong " !!^^
duprasi is cute!!
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Wow Hun, congrats on your new litters!
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Lol... Congrats too... My sis keep bugging me buying gerbils back to Swak...
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Then how are you going to smuggle back? LOL
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Heheh... zoo... memang already like a zoo.

Well, hope this litter survives all the way heheheh... just checked the sex... got 1 male and 5 females... LOL... such an uneven number of male and females.
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Heheh... zoo... memang already like a zoo.

Well, hope this litter survives all the way heheheh... just checked the sex... got 1 male and 5 females... LOL... such an uneven number of male and females.
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Lol... Congrats too... My sis keep bugging me buying gerbils back to Swak...
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lol check it out how to take back lah hahhaa...

an other tired day... ahhh finally finished cleaning lu.. tomorrow can shake leg!
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 4 2007, 01:36 AM)
lol check it out how to take back lah hahhaa...

an other tired day... ahhh finally finished cleaning lu.. tomorrow can shake leg!
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Man.. 40 tanks to wash... If you estimate 1 tank take 10 minutes... 40 tanks would be... zzzz.... 400 minutes. blink.gif
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Mar 4 2007, 12:09 PM)
Man.. 40 tanks to wash... If you estimate 1 tank take 10 minutes... 40 tanks would be... zzzz.... 400 minutes.  blink.gif
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She got 40 tanks meh? LOL... I know she got 40 over gerbils but tanks I don't think 40 lah....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 4 2007, 01:41 PM)
She got 40 tanks meh? LOL... I know she got 40 over gerbils but tanks I don't think 40 lah....
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oops paiseh.. not 40 tanks.. -.-" dunno what was i thinking. LOL... btw, where u put the gerb while cleaning the tank? Storage box? Can gerbils recognize the smell of their owners and be obedient? lol..
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Mar 4 2007, 12:09 PM)
Man.. 40 tanks to wash... If you estimate 1 tank take 10 minutes... 40 tanks would be... zzzz.... 400 minutes.  blink.gif
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Mar 4 2007, 01:45 PM)
oops paiseh.. not 40 tanks.. -.-" dunno what was i thinking. LOL... btw, where u put the gerb while cleaning the tank? Storage box? Can gerbils recognize the smell of their owners and be obedient? lol..
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lol used to hv 40 of them (gerbils not tanks), but now drop down loh hahaha... tanks for 12 only , if 40 i can die!!

yes they recognise owner smell, but obedient ah? i not sure how rodents can consider obedient ah?

i put them in carrier with sand, so they hv their bath when i washing.

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my gerbil pups already opened thier eyes two days ago..
and already eat mixed food since a week ago..

next, i want to identify their sex..
then, separate them after 6 weeks..
perhaps you all can help me in identifying their sex.. smile.gif
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Yay... some updates.
This morning Nescafe gave birth.... 6 healthy pups!!!! But only 1 red eyed and it is a female. I see a few dark coloured pups so it could be some blacks or agoutis.... there may be a DEH I think.... well, just born so cannot really see until a few more days later lah.
1 red eyed... hopefully is fox lah... if not then it would be maybe lilac...
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QUOTE(dien @ Mar 5 2007, 09:37 AM)
my gerbil pups already opened thier eyes two days ago..
and already eat mixed food since a week ago..

next, i want to identify their sex..
then, separate them after 6 weeks..
perhaps you all can help me in identifying their sex..  smile.gif
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see 1st page smile.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 5 2007, 11:11 AM)
see 1st page smile.gif
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i just tried to recognise last night..
but, after looking one by one.. i'm bit blur.. rclxub.gif
looks like all are same..
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QUOTE(dien @ Mar 5 2007, 10:13 AM)
i just tried to recognise last night..
but, after looking one by one.. i'm bit blur..  rclxub.gif
looks like all are same..
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Let them grow up a bit, then it will be very easy to identify.

Friends, I want to have gerbils too.


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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 11:40 AM)
Let them grow up a bit, then it will be very easy to identify.

Friends, I want to have gerbils too.
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haha.. im not expert yet in gerbil arena kot.. tongue.gif

is it the way to identify gerbil sex same as the way we apply on hamster??
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haha.. im not expert yet in gerbil arena kot..  tongue.gif

is it the way to identify gerbil sex same as the way we apply on hamster??
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Just like hamsters, rats and mice. Males come with prominent balls. biggrin.gif
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mr.tikusniaga,
if we wait until we see their ball to identify the sex..
then possibility it will mate before we saperated...


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QUOTE(kembara @ Mar 5 2007, 11:30 AM)
mr.tikusniaga,
if we wait until we see their ball to identify the sex..
then possibility it will mate before we saperated...
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Hahaha .... Kembara could be right.

BUT I wouldn't mind. tongue.gif

However, with knowledge, you can identify by assessing the distance between the vulva and anus. If the two holes were close to each other, then it would be female.
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QUOTE(dien @ Mar 5 2007, 10:45 AM)
haha.. im not expert yet in gerbil arena kot..  tongue.gif

is it the way to identify gerbil sex same as the way we apply on hamster??
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If the pups are still furless but above 5 days old, you can tell by looking at the underside, females have 6 nipples, males have none. If furred already, you have to wait for the balls to appear on the males. They should start to appear around 5 weeks old. Dont worry, they wont mate until the balls actually develop fully.

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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 12:46 PM)
Hahaha .... Kembara could be right.

BUT I wouldn't mind. tongue.gif
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you have enough money to buy cages..tank..heheh bcoz that you dont mind..
we student must be careful..heheh..later no space for our pets..


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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Mar 5 2007, 11:49 AM)
If the pups are still furless but above 5 days old, you can tell by looking at the underside, females have 6 nipples, males have none.
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That is ONE GOOD tip. rclxms.gif Kudos to jaswwp.
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 11:46 AM)
Hahaha .... Kembara could be right.

BUT I wouldn't mind. tongue.gif

However, with knowledge, you can identify by assessing the distance between the vulva and anus. If the two holes were close to each other, then it would be female.
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What do you mean you wouldn't mind? You should because it'll be considered inbreeding la kawan.. -.-"
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What do you mean you wouldn't mind? You should because it'll be considered inbreeding la kawan.. -.-"
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If my gerbils accidently got pregnant and have no means to raise them, I will sell them at RM1.50 a piece. I certainly know, there are many buyers for them.

Yet, with due respect, I wouldn't want to do it. I prefer to sell mice pinkies.
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 01:45 PM)
If my gerbils accidently got pregnant and have no means to raise them, I will sell them at RM1.50 a piece. I certainly know, there are many buyers for them.

Yet, with due respect, I wouldn't want to do it. I prefer to sell mice pinkies.
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 12:46 PM)
However, with knowledge, you can identify by assessing the distance between the vulva and anus. If the two holes were close to each other, then it would be female.
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this way i apply to identify my hamsters sex.

QUOTE(jaswwp @ Mar 5 2007, 12:49 PM)
If the pups are still furless but above 5 days old, you can tell by looking at the underside, females have 6 nipples, males have none. If furred already, you have to wait for the balls to appear on the males. They should start to appear around 5 weeks old. Dont worry, they wont mate until the balls actually develop fully.
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wah, i dont know about the this before..
"If the pups are still furless but above 5 days old, you can tell by looking at the underside, females have 6 nipples, males have none."
if i know, awal-awal lagi i check their sex.. tongue.gif
nevermind, have to wait another two weeks, as long as they will not mate.
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 02:45 PM)
If my gerbils accidently got pregnant and have no means to raise them, I will sell them at RM1.50 a piece. I certainly know, there are many buyers for them.

Yet, with due respect, I wouldn't want to do it. I prefer to sell mice pinkies.
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mr tikusniaga..
many of us here didnt so interest in trading our pets...
although they can get lot of profit, nezu and hun,for examples will examine the buyer first la...
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 5 2007, 01:45 PM)
If my gerbils accidently got pregnant and have no means to raise them, I will sell them at RM1.50 a piece. I certainly know, there are many buyers for them.

Yet, with due respect, I wouldn't want to do it. I prefer to sell mice pinkies.
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It seems you do not understand what I'm trying to say about 'inbreeding'.. it means matings between siblings. Which is not good. Therefore, you should mind la... -.-" shakehead.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Mar 5 2007, 08:54 PM)
It seems you do not understand what I'm trying to say about 'inbreeding'.. it means matings between siblings. Which is not good. Therefore, you should mind la... -.-"  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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God created only a pair of human. Without some sort of 'inbreeding' , how do they managed to populate the earth??? Also, even in Malaysia, we still heard of 'inbreeding' of human going on. sad.gif

While I agree it is NOT GOOD to keep doing it for it will produce defects babies eventually. That is why we have to breed in new blood after 5 to 6 generations of breedings to avoid the defects.

One more point, Blue Heng, opinion always defers.



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QUOTE(kembara @ Mar 5 2007, 08:36 PM)
mr tikusniaga..
many of us here didnt so interest in trading our pets...
although they can get lot of profit, nezu and hun,for examples will examine the buyer first la...
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kembara, i think this is totally not happen to me, unless the breeder give cheapso food n so to the animal, then u can see profit. ppl do with cheapso thing, even sale $1 also also can make profit smile.gif.

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God created only a pair of human. Without some sort of 'inbreeding' , how do they managed to populate the earth??? Also, even in Malaysia, we still heard of 'inbreeding' of human going on. sad.gif

While I agree it is NOT GOOD to keep doing it for it will produce defects babies eventually. That is why we have to breed in new blood after 5 to 6 generations of breedings to avoid the defects.

One more point, Blue Heng, opinion always defers.
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5 to 6 generations?? oh dear...... yeah human n animal alot inbreeding in the world, alot ppl go rob the bank, jump from 20th floor n go heaven, but i think u wouldn't follow them, do u? since u believe in GOD, then may GOD bless u.

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If they were meant for pets, BETTER NOT to in-breed. I guess when you treat them as feeders, it is a different story.


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Well, gerbils were never meant as feeders anyway. Rats and mice still more economical and easy to breed.

Anyway, about the gender issue, if you are experienced you can tell the gender of the baby gerbils even as early as day 2 or 3, coz boys and girls have some difference at the genetials. Best to sex them as early as possible la, once they are furred it may be a bit hard. Some males develop more slowly than others somemore, and after they get sold to new owner as a female only they realise its a male.
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Well, gerbils were never meant as feeders anyway. Rats and mice still more economical and easy to breed.
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YES, it can never be feeders. Who on earth will want to feed gerbils to snakes? 1 gerbil = 15 mice. Why not just feed mice.




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it is also ppl send n sale their gerbils too early, thats y canot see male or female...
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 6 2007, 10:05 AM)
kembara, i think this is totally not happen to me, unless the breeder give cheapso food n so to the animal, then u can see profit.  ppl do with cheapso thing, even sale $1 also also can make profit  smile.gif.
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oh...i'm really really sorry...i didnt mean that....what i want to say..person like u and hun,love the pets..and not mengejar keuntungan like others person out there eg petshop owner..sorry aa..
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Mar 6 2007, 10:02 AM)
Well, gerbils were never meant as feeders anyway. Rats and mice still more economical and easy to breed.

Anyway, about the gender issue, if you are experienced you can tell the gender of the baby gerbils even as early as day 2 or 3, coz boys and girls have some difference at the genetials. Best to sex them as early as possible la, once they are furred it may be a bit hard. Some males develop more slowly than others somemore, and after they get sold to new owner as a female only they realise its a male.
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Gerbils are expensive feeders.... lol, I also won't feed my gerbils to my snake even if so hungry loh. I'll get mice instead... gerbils too precious.

Ai, remember Reeko? He only showed his balls around the age of 5 months... that is crazy... I kept thinking he was a female till one day thought wanted to breed "her" but saw balls poking out slowly.... Luckily I didn't sell him hahahah... first time I didn't see the sex properly.

QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 6 2007, 10:12 AM)
YES, it can never be feeders. Who on earth will want to feed gerbils to snakes? 1 gerbil = 15 mice. Why not just feed mice.
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Yah... imagine, 1 gerbil the size is like a juvi rat.... rat summore cheaper.... better lah.

QUOTE(kembara @ Mar 6 2007, 10:17 AM)
oh...i'm really really sorry...i didnt mean that....what i want to say..person like u and hun,love the pets..and not mengejar keuntungan like others person out there eg petshop owner..sorry aa..
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We all do not untung at all.... I kira... my gerbils and hamsters' food 1 month is RM100 alone.... bedding about RM21 a month and hay around RM10 a month.... crazy rite? But each time sell, those Rm30- Rm40 goes back to the animals.... it barely covers cost. We breed here is for hobby lah... not really for business. Also the quality and colour is different from petshops. People can always go to Petaling Street's petshop and look at the gerbils there.... the gerbils are 100% scared of human and touching, will jump or kick away... also the stock there got a possibility of inbred and have hairless tails. Makan is only Kuaci and Sengkuang.... not that good rite?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 6 2007, 10:42 AM)
We all do not untung at all.... I kira... my gerbils and hamsters' food 1 month is RM100 alone.... bedding about RM21 a month and hay around RM10 a month.... crazy rite? But each time sell, those Rm30- Rm40 goes back to the animals.... it barely covers cost. We breed here is for hobby lah... not really for business. Also the quality and colour is different from petshops. People can always go to Petaling Street's petshop and look at the gerbils there.... the gerbils are 100% scared of human and touching, will jump or kick away... also the stock there got a possibility of inbred and have hairless tails. Makan is only Kuaci and Sengkuang.... not that good rite?
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I would say the petshop at petaling street makes more money.... feed such quality food but then he sell same price as us hahahah....

Updates:

Nescafe's litter.... wow... looks interesting. I can't see the red eyed pup's colour.... still pink pink...

Black eyed pups, can see 1 is DEH... 2 possible to be Nutmeg, 1 maybe is a black or dark agouti and another is agouti... wuuu...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 6 2007, 12:05 PM)
Nescafe's litter.... wow... looks interesting. I can't see the red eyed pup's colour.... still pink pink...

Black eyed pups, can see 1 is DEH... 2 possible to be Nutmeg, 1 maybe is a black or dark agouti and another is agouti... wuuu...
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wow.. glad to hear that..
congrate btw.. smile.gif

how your gerbil have various color of it pups??
DEH, Nutmeg, Black, Agouti..

you make me jealous.. hehehe.. JK

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QUOTE(kembara @ Mar 6 2007, 10:17 AM)
oh...i'm really really sorry...i didnt mean that....what i want to say..person like u and hun,love the pets..and not mengejar keuntungan like others person out there eg petshop owner..sorry aa..
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nah i don't mean u say me, i mean only those no heart breeder can make money from animals.

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Yes, it is true. Animals from hobbyists are always better quality. Somemore , also cheaper.  thumbup.gif
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LOL i don't think my gerbils are cheap LOL tongue.gif
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Me waiting for nezu's gerbils... lol.. I know where to hide it for the moment liao.. under my study table. Wahhaha.. nobody will notice it. Unless the gerbils go bang bang bang la..


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If they were meant for pets, BETTER NOT to in-breed.  I guess when you treat them as feeders, it is a different story.
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so since you mentioned that you wouldn't mind, you don't treat them as pets eh? lol.. well as you've mentioned, it's your opinion.. i'm not in any position to tell you that they deserve to be treated as pets.

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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Mar 6 2007, 01:05 PM)
so since you mentioned that you wouldn't mind, you don't treat them as pets eh? lol.. well as you've mentioned, it's your opinion.. i'm not in any position to tell you that they deserve to be treated as pets.
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It does not matter whether I will treat them like pet or not.

There are ONLY 2 possibilities.

1) Ended up as pets ---- I gain
2) Ended up as feeders --- I gain too

SO, WHY SHOULD I MIND.

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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Mar 6 2007, 05:02 PM)
It does not matter whether I will treat them like pet or not.

There are ONLY 2 possibilities.

1) Ended up as pets ---- I gain
2) Ended up as feeders --- I gain too

SO, WHY SHOULD I MIND.
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man you're a funny person.. you're constantly trying to just prove you're 'right' and i'm 'wrong'.. -.-" I've already said in my last post that you're right and i am in no position to judge you. What more do you want? swt.. you're like arguing with your ownself now.
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adik blue heng and mr tikusniaga..
heheh cool down la you two...
mr tikusniaga is peniaga tikus..so he dont mind la if breed more more..so he can sell the pinkies as feeder....
me, even if a pinkies died sedih want to buang...apalagi want to feed to snake..huhu
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QUOTE(kembara @ Mar 6 2007, 09:19 PM)
adik blue heng and mr tikusniaga..
heheh cool down la you two...
mr tikusniaga is peniaga tikus..so he dont mind la if breed more more..so he can sell the pinkies as feeder....
me, even if a pinkies died sedih want to buang...apalagi want to feed to snake..huhu
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blue heng, sorry lah if you feel that way. I have no mood to judge people. (I wonder you notice that I refused to share my opinion if I have a litter of in-bred gerbils pinkies.) Anyway, at the end of the day, WE WILL ALWAYS REAP WHAT WE SOW. We cannot run away from it.

blue heng, may peace be with you. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Ok la, lets not talk about feeders and all that in this thread adi... normally in overseas ang moh forum, the snake and rodent owners are always in dispute as what I observed, haha...
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the best is don't get carried away la... it's not wrong to have pets... but do consider their nature also... some animal can be pets and some are food to others... as long u don't torture or neglect them i think is still ok... so lets be reasonable and open-minded here...

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