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 Gerbils Hut V4, I wont bite you, I wont stink either !

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post Feb 8 2007, 10:50 PM

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Hahah... i edited the 1st post liao. Thank you Foo for opening new thread.

Anyway, 1st page is best place for the basic and important information. If need be, I would edit the simple chat postings to information on gerbils.
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post Feb 8 2007, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 8 2007, 10:55 PM)
thanks! aiyoh kelang kaput lah hahaha..
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Yah loh... a bit kelang kabut hahahah...

QUOTE(SailorMercury @ Feb 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
looks like a crossbreed between hamster and mouse
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Well, they do look that way hahaha... but then gerbils make nicer pets than hamsters tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2007, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 9 2007, 01:18 PM)
hahahahha..... thats my main purpose  flex.gif  whistling.gif
prestige + britter bunny + chinese almond+ vege powder+kibbles + .... hahahhaha alot ler.. but the main meal is prestige..
Readix u long time no login ler, i got new cam lu hehehe.. got new pic also ler... showu one that i post b4..

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LOL thats cool!! yeah i think ur DEH should be a fat so!
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Hahah.... I would say is your vege powder loh. Heheheh....

Aiyah, no wonder all your pics so nice and clear liao hehehe... new cam. Also no wonder so semangat take pic.

QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 01:35 PM)
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so cute... line up n sleep~

wah... foo's pics very nice now!!canon powershot A710S?i think tmr i'll go kidnap some babies from u. want to steal some food also! hao wanna go? lol
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My goodness, that is just so cute!

QUOTE(readix @ Feb 9 2007, 02:35 PM)
now we hv kaylong n hao.... wow.... anyone wanna go to foo's tmr?? kidnap gerbils!! i think foo "kelang" kabut d!!! i think she'll pack her gerbils n move somewhere else tonite!! laugh.gif
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Wah, all going to Foo's place tomorrow? What time leh? I wanna see I can make it or not hahahah...


Added on February 9, 2007, 8:36 pmHahaha... Foo, I see that cactus in your picture... reminds me so much of that accident LOL.

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post Feb 10 2007, 03:16 PM

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Sigh... today cleaning day so can't make it to Foo's place... ai, next day lah. Then I come to play wrestling with Taro heheheh...
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post Feb 11 2007, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 11 2007, 03:01 AM)
haha.. your taro has a clone..  smile.gif

nezu, these another pictures that taken yesterday..
hope these more clear than before. so, you can determine the color.. hehe..  tongue.gif
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Looks like a Pink Eyed White. Get a clearer picture of the eyes.
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post Feb 11 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Feb 11 2007, 06:12 PM)
omg... i'm leaving tomorrow and yet my gerbil still with me... really hope tonite crazymouse got car...
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Ah, your gerbils save and sound in my home now. I can clearly see your DEH is bigger than the agouti.... he is as big as my Silver hahahah.... Lucky my aunt is free, if not I also dunno how to take your gerbils loh. But luckily can lah.


QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 07:31 PM)
Oh I got 1 question. Gerbils heat tolerance should be higher than hamster right? I plan to leave my gerbils outdoor when I get them from nezu. Don't worry it's not that HOT. It's fully shaded. Nearby the car posh. Should be fine right?
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Never put gerbils outside... coz cats lah... later become food. Also these days heatwave very bad. I have to keep a few hamsters outside, a few died due to heatstroke. The best rodents that can tolerate heat outside are rats and mice... somehow they can sweat instead of drool. Gerbils can tolerate but then risky lah. You must give big bottle of water if you place outside. Again, I more concern of their safety against predators.
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 11:04 PM)
haha.. well to what I understand, gerbils are desert animals mar.. hmm.. unwelcomed guests as in thief or animals? If animals don't worry la.. I have my ways to make sure cats won't come.. if thief ar.. erm.. do you think someone is willing to jump in the house and take a whole tank of gerbils away? I think they'd rather steal my shoes outside. LOL.. kena many times alrd..
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Desert animals, yes lah but then in the wild, they dig burrows into the dark cool underground, away from sun light and heat to keep cool. In our tanks, we got no underground tunnel for them and woodshavings and hay cannot keep cool.

I tried before lah, put 1 gerbil outside my porch.... he drool and drool... almost pengsan. I brought to a McD outside Ikano, those who went for the gathering would know. They saw all my gerbils drool with heat. Imagine, only McD the shedded area and already they drool. So of course they are not suitable for outdoor if stay in woodshaving or any type of bedding.
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QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 11 2007, 11:29 PM)
oh... icic. Usually what are the indications of 'overheat' for hamsters and gerbils. I tried leaving my hamster outside and I monitor it every hour. I check on its nose but everything seems fine. Not wet at all. Is it a clear indication that the temperature is fine for my hamster?
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When too hot, the fur is not smooth but scruffy. Also the cheek pouches for hamsters would be swollen with saliva and the mouth is wet. For gerbils, the fur is untidy a bit and the mouth and hands are wet.

Well, if you do not see any wetness around the mouth area... then I guess it is fine.... but as said before, our weather is changing so the heat can be different each day.
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 12 2007, 12:12 AM)
Keith just passed away sad.gif he was still slightly warm when I saw he was no longer breathing. Sigh... he's still young. No sickness, no wounds nothing. Somehow I feel he died of old age because he has been sleeping more and looking a bit tired lately. It was still a great shock tho, since hes not even 2 years old.

Anyway at the very least he had a good life, as alpha male of his colony, and fathered 10 gerbils.  he died very peacefully like sleeping. I'm just sorry that I didnt spend as much time with him as when I first got him, but he was very happy ruling his male colony of 5 gerbils.

RIP Keith...

Heres the last pics I took of him while he was still warm in my hands. I cant belive he's gone, he looks like taking one of his naps. Sigh... he was my 1st gerbil along with Pecan(died a few months ago). I'll bury him together with her tomorrow.

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Keith... good bye to a wonderful gerbil. I was so sad to hear the news last night.... sigh... his parents are still with me actually. But then Keith was different, a wonderful fella. Rest in peace Keith, now he can teman Pecan in the other world. cry.gif

QUOTE(hao @ Feb 12 2007, 06:59 PM)
Wah foo... very difficult to take gerbil's pic without flash using cam ler... hahahahahaha... take using hp lagi no hope...  laugh.gif


Added on February 12, 2007, 7:46 pmMy gerbils... actually wanna take pic one but they're too active, i gave up in the end and take video instead sweat.gif


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Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... they look very very good hahahah.... the DEH turned out to be a very handsome fella.
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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 12 2007, 09:36 PM)
But he's the skinniest among the 3  laugh.gif
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The skinniest? wah.... feed more dog kibble hahahah.... but they all look good to me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 07:18 PM

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Great news!!!! Autumn gave birth to 2 days ago.... today I checked.... it's 1 female and 1 male... and both are very nice spotted agoutis!!! Autumn is a DEH while the father is the ever hamsap Silver,a dove.... Silver is now with a spotted black... will get back spotted blacks again if all goes well hehee....

QUOTE(dien @ Feb 13 2007, 11:39 AM)
every one here giving knowledge in taming gerbil skill..
will apply some methods.. at least playing with mine everyday..

nezu, some pictures of my gerbil..
i hope these pictures are clear.. no flash..
look into her eyes.. pink or ruby red??
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Seems like PEW to me.

QUOTE(BlueHeng @ Feb 13 2007, 06:26 PM)
Erm... how much does it cost if you put your pet on the 'pet cargo'???
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Pet Cargo? They don't do rodents. Only animals that can be vaccinated and fully checked by a vet. So dogs and cats yes.... rodents... normally hush hush but then majority do not allow lah.

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QUOTE(hao @ Feb 13 2007, 08:12 PM)
Hun, they do rodents too. Here's the charges for MASKargo:

Rates and tariffs for import and export of animals  Type Example Rates
Equines  Horses, mules  MYR300 per animal
Domestic animals  Cattle, sheep, goats, pigs  MYR300 per pallet
MYR100 per crate
Feathered animals  Day old chicks, day old ducklings, day old goosling, live birds  <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Crustacean / molluse / seafood  Live crabs, seafood mix with consignment of live crabs  <100kg MYR30
101-500kg MYR70
>501kg MYR180
Domestic pets  Cats, dogs, hamsters, rodents, parrots, squirrels  MYR30 per kennel
Reptiles / insects  Snakes, turtles, lizards, bees, worms  <100kg MYR50
101-500kg MYR100
>501kg MYR200
Zoological animals  Tigers, giraffes, lions, monkeys  <300kg MYR50
300-100kg MYR100
>1001kg MYR300
Accomodation charges (applicable for import and export from ATA and cargo acceptance time)  First 8 hrs of ATA or STD - Free
After 8 hrs of ATA or STD - RM150 per day/shipment
Cleaning of horse stall  RM400 per stall
Cleaning and disposal of crate for Domestic animals  Per pallet RM300
Per crate RM50
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Wah.... didn't know... hahaha... you have given me some knowledge now hahahah...

But then, no need permit meh? Must have right? Coz I was reading on the importation and exportation of animals by a government website and it says only dogs and cats are normally allowed, other animals, that depends.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 13 2007, 11:52 PM)
waw congrate hun.. the deh too strong huh.. 2 also agouti. good sp? pied?
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Yah, DEH to strong ahahahah... but the sp quite good. Big patch on the heads.... I still can't see got collar or not coz this 2 agoutis very light.... I think due to Ch gene maybe... wait a few more days then got fur is easier to see loh.

Quite happy with these 2 coz the spots quite prominant than my older sp agoutis loh heheheh....

Silver yesterday mated liao with my Junior- Sp Black.... wonder how nice the sp would be later... pray pray all nice nice.
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Sigh... sad news.... 1 sp agouti pup died.... is the female... notice it got bloated tummy, maybe got too much air in the internal organs... Also, I think my DEH not enough milk.... now I am feeding the remaining male sp agouti, hope he can make it.
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QUOTE(dien @ Feb 14 2007, 08:28 PM)
today when i reached room i was little bit shocked..
at the beginning, i want to checked the color of my gerbil's eyes, but i didn't do that when i noticed another three red pups was born..
better i don't disturb her for several days..
i think she was pregnant before i got her a few weeks ago..

my question, should i take out another one of my female gerbil from that tank?
or just let her stay in that tank as it..
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Better seperate the female... It may look like nothing now but then later you may find missing pups.

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 14 2007, 10:34 PM)
oh dear, hope the one can make it, hand feed him loh..  but do mama sit on him??
LOL.. good on uhahhaa
how many gerbils u hv in the tank? n the sex? how old? if u got 2 females, n adult, better becareful.
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Yes loh, now I am actually handfeeding him while online. He is very small and skinny.... His mama sit on him and hug him to sleep...but I think coz not enough babies, and she 1st time is mummy.... so maybe that is why she not producing milk.

This pup's so small... must feed him with droplets of milk using my finger and a paperclip...
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Some shops will close this Saturday... some on Sunday... normally the shops close on 1st, 2nd and 3rd day of CNY....


Added on February 15, 2007, 10:53 am
QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 15 2007, 09:22 AM)
make sure the milk u feed hor, he digest after few hours. if not it will hv problem too, cos i hv some pup canot digest also.
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I think that is why the female pup died... this male can digest.... but he still skinny.... hope he can make it lah.

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poor thing... today little baby boy joined his sister up in heaven.... well, I tried my best but can't be saved even through handfeeding....

Now this is why breeding can lead to heartache....
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Well, to be a breeder one would experience such loses...

Well, now left with my lil 3 week old nutmeg boy.... then I am gonna expect some litters in mid or end of March too.
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Yah, as long tried the best then I am satisfied lah.

yups, gonna have new litter... should be Sp Black.... you like Sp Black? Heheheh...
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Hahah.... I LOVE to tempt people with gerbils heheheheh....

Anyway, I am trying my luck with Silver coz he is a very lovely Sp Dove... would be a waste not to breed him so I thought why not try with my Junior who just matured enough to be mated... eventhough the litter may be black... but I am hoping for 1 good spotted or pied to come out if possible.

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