I haven't seen any mondeo in penang at all before.
My guess it is probably 2 digit sales

Obviously it will not beat the GTI in handling. It's a heavier car, and the target audience is those ferrying family. My guess based on the current Passat B7 is that it is tuned for composure at high speed highway driving but not twisty roads.
The Passat has a very stiff and rigid chassis , equivalent to the E class and 3 series so my guess if you fit stiffer springs and anti roll bars, it will handle just as well as the mondeo and mazda 6.

Yes, my impressions as well. The Passat is a mid-sized D-segment sedan for the family, not exactly a fun machine such as the GTI for some college kids or speedsters to spin around town. Certainly true that the Passat will be suitable for families with the kids sitting at the back seat. I am well aware that the German cars are good performers on the highways, stability at high speed. I would think that the Passat would be rock solid when cruising on the highways at speeds that are significantly higher than our 110 km/h speed limit. Coupled by the luxurious interior and elegant exterior, I think this new B8 model will win some fans. It's just the pricing (apart from after-sales) that will determine if it will sell like hot cakes.

Mh... but isn't that also because zoom zoom? People who are into the Golf GTI don't have too many alternatives, and they may not be the most rational people in the first place.

The Passat is a heavier car, and it is designed for comfort. Calling it a GTI with boot is stretching things... it might be fast, sort of, but it's more for driving fast on the highway.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Nov 10 2016, 04:18 AM

Skoda Octavia vRS IS the Golf GTI with boot

And Audi S3 sedan = Golf R with boot

People who are into the Golf GTI are performance enthusiasts. Or why buy the GTI in the first place?

Yes, the Passat is indeed the heavier car but it sports the same exact engine from the GTI with the same horsepower and gearbox. There's even the R line variant which sports the same R engine and complete with 4motion in the Passat that is currently on sale in Deutchland.

But you are right, it is indeed a longer car so it would not handle as well as the GTI on a winding road but it certainly would not lack the power.

What's the 0-100km/h of the B8 Passat 2.0?

you can see more mustang on the road than modeo

6.7s

the pricing will be from rm160k-199k

Very impressive! It's definitely on my shortlist now.

It's not all about handling. Being able to tapau other cars at traffic lights and overtake quickly on a straight road is important also, no?

Outlook wise the Golf GTi is for young adults, the Passat is for middle-agers and older.

A check with Carbase.my shows that second hand value the Golf GTi Mk7 is a bit above 50% of new value which is quite typical of Conti cars. No extra good second hand value here compared to other Contis. Of course don't compare value with Passat because resale value was slashed when it was CKD'ed.

In actual fact a used Passat may be a safer buy than a Golf GTi which has probably been driven hard by performance junkies.

This post has been edited by kluseng: Nov 11 2016, 03:39 PM

I had a look on passat b8 at showroom just now. It looked better in flesh. Almost like a CC, at least for the 2.0 maybe because of the big rims. My comments from showroom impression are:-
Pros : Almost as roomy as the camry/accord.
Enormous trunk.
Seats felt really good with good positioning.
Features like electronic boot, led instead of bulb on the reading &
vanity light, massage driver seat are like upper class
already.
Looks like a coupe which is very sleek. Atleast for the 2.0.

Cons : The door thunk was not as solid as the golf cbu that ive sampled
maybe because it's a 'ckd' (stereotyping) but still acceptable but i was
expecting it to be better considering it's newer than the golf.
No blind spot monitoring considering mazda 6 & camry have it
already in this class.
No automatic braking but Lane Assist which should be atleast other
way around which is more useful.
Rear lamp is the cheaper unit. Not the full LED unit.
Touch screen infotainment not the top unit 8' inch. We only get 6.5'
which felt small in this car.
Been told that the price is around 205k include ins. I'm expecting it to
be cheaper considering ckd, eev incentives, vw 10 years anniv, getting
people to trust the brand again etc.



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I don't understand the lack of automatic braking, cause it also comes with adaptive cruise control and isn't expensive. Very useful in Malaysia, cause in traffic jams the car will take care of everything. Just push a button on the wheel and the car gets going again after a full stop.

As for the LED interior lights... I have those in my Golf. The ambient ones are nice... gimmicky, but nice. But the ceiling ones are pretty dim... dimmer than the stock warm white light bulbs in cheaper Golfs.

The bigger HU is very expensive. Around RM 10k I believe. (Adaptive Cruise Control is around 2k). And the main advantage is navigation, which may not work so well in Malaysia.

This look big. Are you sure its not 8"?

Wow very expensive HU. But the bigger do look good with this car dashboard size.

There r other bigger screen. Like one in latest GTi. That one look awesome and slot perfectly at the Dashboard

Let just say we are fortunate enough that they don't replace it with an after market Chinese made HU like Hyundai/Kia.

On a Comfortline Passat the 6.5" unit as seen on the photo costs RM 1555. GPS for that unit is another RM 2656. Instead, you could get the 8" Discover Pro (same arrangement, same buttons, but the screen goes right up to the buttons and they are a bit further away), which is RM 11058 and already includes GPS. IMHO the best choice for Malaysia would be the 6.5" HU, but instead of GPS they should have picked App Connect and Media Control. Lets you control the HU from your tablet, and lets you use Android Auto etc. Costs RM 1340, or RM 981 without the tablet stuff. The leftover money could be invested in the 11 speaker Dynaudio sound system for RM 6342, adjustable suspension for RM 5744, raised ride height for RM 2896 (15 mm higher, good for those bad Malaysian roads), 360° GTA style camera from above the car for RM 4164. Heads-up display is RM 2704, while that awesome digital dashboard is RM 3183. LED headlights are RM 5217, while the matrix LED option is RM 10268. But I have the HID version of that (which probably isn't as good), and it's awesome. I love it. The options list on Comfortline Passats is 107 items long.

One thing they really should have included is Adaptive Cruise Control for only RM 2154! It's mind boggling that they didn't include that option, given the other way too expensive kit they've included that's just gimmicky and pointless. Especially in combination with DSG it's a great feature. Prevents accidents/lessens accidents, and makes driving just so much more comfortable. Plus the competitors don't have it.

Definitely buy this over if let me choose between mazda6 and passat. Just for pricing comparison

I would take the 199k anytime because its 6speed wet clutch is much more stable

The major let down is after sales service provided by VW, you know them well. Had Horrible experience