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post Aug 17 2017, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Aug 17 2017, 07:27 AM)
Maybe they use 2 different fabs to package the chip.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Aug 17 2017, 08:58 AM)
Maybe they use 2 different fabs to package the chip.
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yeah maybe, hope it does not effect performance
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post Aug 17 2017, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Doraku @ Aug 16 2017, 09:33 PM)
thats great news la since miner wont buy vega because of it high power usage, is they buy  the power usage is cost more than they made,maybe amd increase the power usage because dont want miner screw up the gpu price
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lol, I don't think so though?
I think the power draw is making the gamers to be worried, not miners because most miners are dependant on "free electricity" whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Aug 17 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Aug 17 2017, 12:45 PM)
lol, I don't think so though?
I think the power draw is making the gamers to be worried, not miners because most miners are dependant on "free electricity"  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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lol how do miner get free electricity sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 17 2017, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Aug 15 2017, 07:59 PM)
WTF!? Lingloong's 1st batch of Vega all SOLD OUT???

You can't say Bolehland ppl are poor anymore.
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Very little stock in Malaysia. But then, especially for AMD cards, it is better to wait for cards with 3rd party coolers. I would expect at least a 12 inches long card with triple axial fans.
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Aug 17 2017, 01:24 PM)
lol how do miner get free electricity sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I have heard about that before, because miners are getting a large number of GPUs hence the power consumption is overwhelming and some would need and resort to "free electricity" to widen the cost to benefit ratio. and the question on how do they get "free electricity"... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Aug 17 2017, 08:45 PM

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I remembered one site mentioned the vega card to be over 1kg in weight wow
It's like the same weight as my previous Sapphire triple fan R9 290.
While my tiny 2 fan GTX1070 weighs around half that lol
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post Aug 17 2017, 09:41 PM

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What happen to Fury-X? Especially in Crysis 3? laugh.gif



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post Aug 17 2017, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Aug 17 2017, 08:45 PM)
I remembered one site mentioned the vega card to be over 1kg in weight wow
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damn. imagine the sag
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post Aug 18 2017, 02:55 AM

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More review videos.



TL;DW
- Similar or faster compare to 1070 FE
- Could reach 1080 FE performance when overclocked
- Overclocking the core with increase power limit increase power consumption significantly
- Overclock the HBM will give noticeable improvement without crazy increase in power limit
- Use the same HBM as Vega 64/Vega FE so technically you can overclock it to Vega 64/FE level


TL;DW
- Currently there is no way to flash with custom BIOS successfully because of the newly added security processor
- Software reading is still buggy
- Best VRM in reference card
- Perform similar to 1070 FE
- Consume almost +100w with 50% power limit increase
- Consume significantly lesser power when undervolted to 1.025v from 1.2v even with +50% power limit
- Lesser heat and able to maintain clock speed when undervolted (duh)
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Aug 18 2017, 02:55 AM)
More review videos.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

TL;DW
- Currently there is no way to flash with custom BIOS successfully because of the newly added security processor
- Software reading is still buggy
- Best VRM in reference card
- Perform similar to 1070 FE
- Consume almost +100w with 50% power limit increase
- Consume significantly lesser power when undervolted to 1.025v from 1.2v even with +50% power limit
- Lesser heat and able to maintain clock speed when undervolted (duh)
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wait aftermarket cooler jer....all REF cooler is HOT no matter its from green or from red.
all down to it is the pricing vs 1070 / 1080 respectively. as AMD gpu normally cheaper than the opponent, a higher pricing will deal them a blow.

as always, i'm freaking AMAZE by the tiny PCB surface area used thumbup.gif

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post Aug 18 2017, 12:37 PM

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Any news about the radeon packs? is it coming to malaysia? especially the one with freesync monitor
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post Aug 18 2017, 11:56 PM

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but sstill wonder
when will have card can support 4k with reasonable price
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post Aug 19 2017, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Aug 18 2017, 11:56 PM)
but sstill wonder
when will have card can support 4k with reasonable price
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Already have it's called Nvidia GTX 1080ti ....


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post Aug 19 2017, 07:55 PM

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Vega FE is not a gaming card. And it is also true for RX Vega 64. laugh.gif



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post Aug 19 2017, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Aug 19 2017, 08:29 AM)
Already have it's called Nvidia GTX 1080ti ....
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but the price almost 4k = =
dunno volta mid range can support 4k or not?
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QUOTE(silrave @ Aug 19 2017, 11:58 PM)
but the price almost 4k = =
dunno volta mid range can support 4k or not?
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Every new 80s from nvidia beats the previous gen 80ti'sby 20-30% while consuming half the power. The new gen 70s=previous gen 80ti's. So mid range 60 & 70s volta should be good. 80s are the high range. Ti/titans are enthusiast.

I have decided to be on the 80s cycle. It has the longest shelf life.

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post Aug 21 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Aug 20 2017, 12:52 PM)
Every new 80s from nvidia beats the previous gen 80ti'sby 20-30% while consuming half the power. The new gen 70s=previous gen 80ti's. So mid range 60 & 70s volta should be good. 80s are the high range. Ti/titans are enthusiast.

I have decided to be on the 80s cycle. It has the longest shelf life.
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plus the fact that along the line Pascal is the one architecture which saw an exponential growth in performance. when jensen huang introduced Pascal, Volta architecture was included in the presentation roadmap chart showing another exponential increment.
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Aug 21 2017, 09:41 AM)
plus the fact that along the line Pascal is the one architecture which saw an exponential growth in performance. when jensen huang introduced Pascal, Volta architecture was included in the presentation roadmap chart showing another exponential increment.
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nth much
just need to wait next year volta
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then time to spend on 70 or 80 series
cause amd cant really beat the 1080ti yet
and the price for amd card really insane
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post Aug 23 2017, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Aug 22 2017, 08:43 PM)
nth much
just need to wait next year volta
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then time to spend on 70 or 80 series
cause amd cant really beat the 1080ti yet
and the price for amd card really insane
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dang...

AMD seems to be the underdog on both fronts... while things look good (or at least, okay) for Ryzen, Intel will strike back soon with Gen-8 and 9... Nvidia will do the same with Volta. the delay in Volta will probably just improve it even more.

probably should re-split Radeon from AMD so that they each can concentrate building their own products.

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