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terradrive
post Aug 1 2017, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Aug 1 2017, 02:57 PM)
hope its performance better than 1070 biggrin.gif
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Should be because i think it would be 10-15% slower than vega 64.

It would be the card to get for 1440p freesync 144hz
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post Aug 14 2017, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(slepth @ Aug 12 2017, 10:52 PM)
Farkkkkk! if miners kept sapu every thing, how I'm supposed to upgrade my pc sad.gif
wait for rx 480, no stock/overprice. wait for rx 580, the same thing again.
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Rx480 and 470 was in stock for quite a long time before the mining craze started leh

How come can overprice when that time rx470 4GB only rm1k?

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post Aug 14 2017, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(slepth @ Aug 14 2017, 02:07 PM)
release price for 470 & 480 was $179 & $199. Change to RM is RM76X.xx & RM85X.xx

When I checked for 480, the price was >RM1k O_o

How much markup do our retailers want ah?
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Msrp was that but i remembered retail was more like $220, exchange rate 4.3, gst6%, and markup easily break rm1100 lor
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post Aug 17 2017, 08:45 PM

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I remembered one site mentioned the vega card to be over 1kg in weight wow
It's like the same weight as my previous Sapphire triple fan R9 290.
While my tiny 2 fan GTX1070 weighs around half that lol
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post Sep 12 2020, 12:28 PM

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Will AMD drop price for RX5700XT? Some RTX2060 super is priced at RM1400 now, an RX5700XT priced at 1400-1500 would be so nice. As well as RX5600XT priced close to RM1100.
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post Sep 13 2020, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 13 2020, 05:42 PM)
Don't think so.. the 5700XT still strong in mining demand. Unless AMD signal its AIB vendors for clearing stocks.
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it is strong in overseas because rx5700xt is very cheap there, some countries even have price premiums on nvidia cards (for example 2070 super is 50% more expensive than rx5700xt there). Compared to malaysia, we got price slash and can get 2070 super for less than rm1.8k. Gaming wise just as fast, mining wise very easy to setup compared to amd, and just slightly slower.
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post Sep 14 2020, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 14 2020, 05:14 PM)
Funnily enough the pricing situation is the exact opposite here sweat.gif

The 5700XT prices here seems to have a rather big premium over what overseas market charge for the same card, but the 2060/2070 Super is very competitively priced when compared to other markets sweat.gif
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Exactly, you can have RX5700XT for just 400 usd at usa, so cheap. If AMD doesn't reduce RX5000 series price in Malaysia soon, barely any people would choose the RX 5000 series over Nvidia cards, this in turn would make the cards harder to sell by the retailers, then it will cause the retailer to not stock much of AMD cards in the future. Can you see the negative impact towards Radeon card's availability here? Very bad situation.
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post Oct 12 2020, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 4 2020, 10:15 AM)
Massively bigger GPU die
2200mhz boost
80 CU
16GB RAM

Big Navi sounds like going to be really big.
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5700XT's 251mm2 die size and 8GB VRAM is 400usd

big navi ~500m2 die size and 16GB VRAM, won't be cheap...
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post Oct 29 2020, 12:01 AM

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Here we go!!! 1 more min
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post Oct 29 2020, 12:33 AM

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Very little information given, no information on compute performance and how it handles ray tracing. Seems like ray tracing is brute forced cos the few games they demoed with the directX 12 ultimate ray tracing, it is mostly just some simpler lighting and shadows.

Very fast rasterization performance, good amount of 16GB VRAM. RIP to ethereum miners due to low GDDR6 memory bandwidth. 128MB Infinity cache mean game developers would need to optimize for that in the future.

Fully designed arch for gaming but what about for other than gaming use?
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post Oct 29 2020, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Oct 29 2020, 12:51 AM)
No1 wanna talk about how the cache is starting to limit RDNA2 in 4k and above? Check the 2k and 4k slides.
How will AMD possibly support developers for InfinityCache if they can't even support OEM/ODM's with APU's? Forget about that in the near feauture.
SMA sounds great but really scarce on details.

Wonder what prices in here will be like.
The 6800 is priced too high. the 6800XT is fine. the 6900XT likewise.
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Yupp. It will make game developers scratch their heads more too to code the game to take advantage of the cache. Nvidia kepler arch had been like hell to maintain for Nvidia to maintain gaming performance before.

Nvidia is more simple, memory bandwidth issue settled by using GDDR6X instead, but of course the limited VRAM.
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post Oct 29 2020, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Cold|Drawn @ Oct 29 2020, 01:06 AM)
read the last line of that post though.
I agree, but I think games that nvidia showcased for RT is not applicable to AMD though.
That's why AMD showed other games that have their version of DX12 RT instead.
and the best bet for AMD to showcase their RT perf is by waiting for games that are going to be developed in consoles then ported to steam.
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We can see later in the future how it plays out on how fast it runs. Nvidia GPU supports directx ultimate too so no issue there. I'm just disappointed on their showcase of ray tracing.
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post Oct 29 2020, 08:22 AM

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It seems like theres a small print that stated the ray tracing performance. And the ray tracing benchmark by microsoft's dxr sdk seems to put it faster than 2080ti. AMD's website stated each compute unit have one ray accelerator, so ray tracing seems to be fine on the new GPU.

AMD should had made a better presentation....
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post Oct 29 2020, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Oct 29 2020, 12:11 PM)
Nice launch from AMD. Much better than last year's launch only taking on Nvidia mid-range 2070 (which ended up costing more when reaching Malaysia and tarnished by driver instability issue).

This year they take on, at least on slides, on Nvidia best GPU in terms of raster performance and efficiency (really? AMD efficient?), undercutting their price like everyone wished (maybe due to sup-par RTX DLSS driver etc).

Will love to see the heated discussion about AMD vs Nvidia all over the internet instead of just stocks and scalpers.
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maybe because the tsmc 7nm is better than samsung's 8nm
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post Oct 29 2020, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Oct 29 2020, 01:46 PM)
Yeah, also maybe they don't have RT and Tensor core. Still, the jump in efficiency from RDNA1 and 2, based on the slides, are quite impressive, like the jump from 780Ti to 980Ti on the same 28nm (lol those are the days).
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RDNA2 have RT cores. Each compute unit have its own core. AMD didn't show in the announcement presentation but on it's website.
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post Oct 29 2020, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 29 2020, 04:11 PM)
Now the previously confirmed fake leak doesn't look so fake anymore. A lot of it is right as per announcement.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/73241/amd-ra...ides/index.html
I bet it's someone with inside info that purposely share this leak and add other fake stuff to obscure it.

So now whether RXRT is AMD answer to RTX and if the slide are true, not much performance hit when turning it on.
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still looks fake tho
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post Nov 18 2020, 07:02 PM

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what time 6800 nda expires?
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post Nov 18 2020, 11:21 PM

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got any reviews with benchmark on 3d rendering softwares like blender, vray, arnold etc? I can't seem to find those atm
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 18 2020, 11:27 PM)
QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 18 2020, 11:33 PM)
AMD reviewers guide not a single bit about productivity software, most media will just go gaming.

Focus is 100% gaming.

Refer to TristanX post above though.
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Thanks, seems like the GPU hardware itself is a beast in productivity but opencl support is kinda lacking cry.gif

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post Nov 19 2020, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 19 2020, 12:17 AM)
Guru3D have Indigo and Blender it as well
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_r..._review,29.html
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Interesting, in guru3d blender the rtx 3000 series is so much faster but in linus's it's around the same ballpark. Although no idea why guru3d is using the older blender version and not the newer 2.90. I just checked mine seems like pascal optix support is experimental. Seems like the optix in blender really uses the rt cores on rtx cards, while radeon only can use the opencl route.

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