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post Apr 30 2017, 11:32 PM

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Calm you tits guys, Vega is imminent but i hope it will release as AMD want it and not crippled by GoFlo manufacturing process.

New video by NerdTechGasm about in-depth (pre)-review from Vega architecture revealed slides. Good video long video imo though i don't really understand some of it. laugh.gif

We already speculate some of it like tiled rendering, geomeotry throughput improvement but still interesting nonetheless.


I hope he stay making this type video instead of going "mainstream" for more clicks.
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post May 2 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ May 1 2017, 08:56 PM)
on my aging R290  biggrin.gif
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Eh, you not using CFX before?
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post May 6 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(demetry @ May 6 2017, 12:02 PM)
Waiting vega b4 i invest. When is vega expected to launch?
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Soon.™
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post May 11 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ May 11 2017, 02:56 AM)
How does rx560 compare to 1050ti in terms of performance and price? Main game is rocket league =D
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Performance wise 1050 Ti is still faster imo, if they price it similar or higher compare to RX460 then 1050 Ti will win price/performance too for around RM700-RM800.
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post May 14 2017, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ May 11 2017, 04:14 PM)
Hi, I just updated my old amd driver to crimson driver 17.1

Can tell me why I cannot go to that section where u can set the settings for every application? meaning i want this application to run at certain settings and I need to import the 'exe' of that software?
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you should still able to set profile for each games/softwares in Crimson. hmm.gif
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post May 15 2017, 01:11 PM

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Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.5.1 Release Notes

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Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.5.1 Highlights

Support For

Prey®
Up to 4.7% performance improvement measured on Radeon RX 580 8GB graphics when compared to Radeon Software Crimson ReLive edition 17.4.4(RS-134)
Multi GPU profile support

Fixed Issues
-Fixed an issue that may sometimes cause the error message "1603" during uninstall.
-Radeon Settings may sometimes fail to update through the auto Radeon Software update feature.
-Forza Horizon 3™ may experience minor graphics corruption in some game maps
-Sid Meier's Civilization™ VI may experience an application crash when using Hybrid Graphics system configurations and windowed game mode
-Radeon WattMan may fail to apply settings on some Radeon R9 390 series graphics products.
-Added switchable graphics support for Unigine™ Superposition for XConnect and Hybrid Graphics.

Known Issues
-The Display feature in Radeon Settings "GPU Scaling" may not function for some games.
-Radeon Settings may crash on switching Windows® user after toggling AMD CrossFire™ technology mode.
-A small amount of apps may still experience issues with Borderless Fullscreen mode and AMD FreeSync™ technology if other applications or game launchers are running on the primary screen in the background.
-Counter-Strike™: Global Offensive and World of Warcraft™ may experience flickering or performance issues the first time the game is launched on a system boot with AMD FreeSync™ technology enabled. Workarounds include exiting and restarting the application or task switching (alt+tab) in and out of the game to fix the issue.

Known Issues for Radeon ReLive
-The XBOX™ DVR application may cause conflicts with Radeon ReLive, users are suggested to disable XBOX™ DVR if Radeon ReLive is experiencing issues.
-Radeon ReLive may fail to install on AMD APU Family products or experience a system hang or failure to record when using the recording feature on AMD APU Family products.
-Radeon ReLive may intermittently fail to work after performing task switches of applications. A work around is to disable and then enable the feature in Radeon Software.
-Radeon ReLive may exhibit corruption in recordings when capturing Microsoft Office applications.
-Radeon ReLive may experience recording or streaming issues when task switching using ALT+TAB.

Package Contents
The Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.5.1 installation package contains the following:
-Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.5.1 Driver Version 17.10.2711. (Windows Driver Store Version 22.19.165.3)

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post May 17 2017, 09:02 AM

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Apparently recent leaked about Vega sporting 1600mhz core clock and 16GB HBM2 VRAM is true.

Last night AMD announced Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, a Vega card for the professional.

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Things suddenly got much more interesting. drool.gif

Sauce: http://pro.radeon.com/en-us/vega-frontier-edition
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post May 17 2017, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ May 17 2017, 10:25 AM)
Hopefully Vega will perform well. I don't hope much, but hopefully the highest end vega should perform near 1080ti.
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Yeah, keep your hope low and your wallet thick.
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post May 17 2017, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ May 17 2017, 04:35 PM)
so vega is for professional confused.gif
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The newly announced Vega Frontier Edition is for professional.

Vega for gamer coming soon™. Nova, Eclipse & Core.
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post May 18 2017, 01:28 PM

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This is why using Steam Hardware Survey to determine how much AMD sold Polaris is dumb.

Around 4mins


I think even LingLoong@DotaTech acknowledged they sold more RX480 to miners compare to gamers/normal user.
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post May 18 2017, 06:13 PM

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R9-290 in 2017.



QUOTE(diehard1979 @ May 18 2017, 02:48 PM)
AMD card good for bit coin mining?
why heavy depend on GPU for mining rather than CPU?
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Alternate coins, mostly Ethereum i think. Bitcoin or many other famous Coins difficulty is too high for consumer GPU to make good profit or any profit since there is ASIC available for the job that give good hashrate while using much less power.


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post May 19 2017, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ May 19 2017, 12:11 PM)
omg need to wait again
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In Vega Frontier Edition page they said this.
"To learn more about the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition graphics card, visit http://radeon.com/frontier and we’ll be providing further details by mid-June"

Not launch but details. laugh.gif

Then told us to wait longer for "lower-priced" gaming optimized Vega. I interpret that as let us sell these Vega aim at professionals with high profit margin first for awhile until price for HBM2 come down considerably. Vega for gamer in 2018. laugh.gif
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post May 20 2017, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ May 19 2017, 03:00 PM)
haha
if like that
then i just wait volta only
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Actually on recent Reddit AMA with Raja Koduri he mentioned that they will show RX Vega on upcoming Computex 2017 late this month but it will only available on store later which i hope few more weeks after that or in July at most.

Some recap from the AMA thanks to DrawStreamRasterizer

  • Main goal of Vega was to create an architecture that can handle large data sets and game at 4K at 60fps.

  • The demo during Financial Analyst day was an air-cooled Frontier Edition, not an RX Vega card. There will be water cooled versions of Vega that will run slightly faster.

  • Frontier uses 2 x 8GB stacks of HBM2.

  • Both HBM1 and HBM2 provide plenty of bandwidth.

  • Raja will look into OC'ing HBM2 and a 16GB RX card.

  • RX Vega will be shown at Computex. It will not be available the same week but nothing else has been ruled out.

  • Frontier runs comfortably using 1x6-pin and 1x8-pin but RTG put 2x8-pin on the production card for more headroom.

  • Raja is keeping his beard until Vega launches.

  • Infinity fabric allows for the joining of multiple engines on a single die, and offers high bandwidth and low latency.

  • There has been no mention of using Infinity fabric with multiple GPUs.

  • Frontier was designed for an array of workload usages. RX Vega is for gaming and will be faster than Frontier.

  • Vega will support Tensorflow, Cafe2, Cafe, Torch7 and MxNet via MIOpen.

  • Pro versions support hardware virtualization. He did not state out right if this included Frontier/Vega or or not.

  • The High Bandwidth Cache Controller (HBCC) helps increase minimum framerates and can improve performance even more if it's specifically coded for.

  • Developing drivers for GPUs is really hard.

  • Raja expects to grow ROCm to improve machine learning and compute. Another ROCm comment.

  • Raja replies to a comment regarding particle physics simulation, saying this will be improved via the new cache and infinity fabric.

  • New geometry pipeline in Vega improves throughput per clock cycle and will require no extra work on dev's part to utilize.

  • Radeon Vega Frontier will be the fastest single GPU solution for compute.

  • Radeon Instinct will provide dramatically better performance per dollar compared to the competition

  • RX will have different drivers than Frontier that are optimized for gaming as well as additional goodies.

  • Vega is the first GPU architecture to use Infinity Fabric and is in no way a re-hash of Polaris

  • Radeon Chill will continue to be improved and will be updated soon.


QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ May 19 2017, 11:28 PM)
Hi, want to ask is there any solution for PC-to-PC game stream for AMD R9 280X? Eg: stream from my bedroom gaming pc to living room weak PC. I looked around and I can only find solution for Steam specific games, as well as NVidia solutions.

I tried Splashtop, really really bad. Any other possible recommendation?
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I don't think there is any alternative for Nvidia gamestream other than using Steam home streaming.

Can't you add games to Steam and use it streaming feature? hmm.gif

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post May 20 2017, 07:00 PM

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AMD released 17.5.2, more optimization for Prey and fixed some issues.

Download: here

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Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.5.2 Highlights

Support For
-Prey®
Up to 4.5% performance improvement measured on Radeon RX 580 8GB graphics when compared to Radeon Software Crimson ReLive edition 17.5.1(1)

Fixed Issues
-NieR™: Automata may experience a random hang or application crash after short periods of gameplay.
-Forza™ Horizon 3 may experience very long map/launch load times.
-The primary display adapter may sometimes appear disabled in Radeon Settings while driving a display from the linked adapter in Multi GPU system configurations.
-Radeon RX 550 series graphics products may experience a system hang when entering sleep or hibernate modes.

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post May 23 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ May 23 2017, 06:42 PM)
guys, help me out.
should i buy RX 580? R9 390? or the R9 Fury?
gaming at 1080p and 1440p
can't wait for vega and it won't be in the price range biggrin.gif
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Go with RX-580 if you concern about VRAM capacity else R9-Fury. What is the price liek btw?
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post May 24 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ May 24 2017, 02:16 AM)
overall performance? real time gaming experience?  sweat.gif
price range around RM1300-1600.
the reason? i want to know why RX 580 biggrin.gif
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Overall performance Fury is faster of course especially at 1440p.
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post May 25 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ May 25 2017, 11:32 AM)
alright then, which brand does better performance/cooling/OC/RMA?
Sapphire or ASUS?  sweat.gif
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For R9-Fury? Sapphire Nitro offer best cooling performance and Asus Strix come in close 2nd but aesthetically i prefer Fury Nitro, one of the best looking card in recent years imo.

OC wise 1150mhz is good, 1200mhz is damn good. The chip is not known for overclocking capability btw, i'm not surprise if you can't get it past 1120mhz.
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post May 31 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ May 31 2017, 10:58 AM)
Radeon Vega will be launching at the end of July. That's really late....
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post Jun 2 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Jun 2 2017, 11:31 AM)
this is what i found on the net, concerning vega performance (not very convincing/positive)

quoted from notebookcheck:
" CEO Lisa Su, however, held a press demonstration to reveal the new 16-core Ryzen Threadripper processor with support for 64 PCIe lanes set to launch this Summer. She also showed off a PC equipped with Threadripper and two unnamed Vega GPUs in Crossfire running Prey in 4K resolution at a locked 60 FPS. According to our own benchmarks, a single GTX 1080 already averages around 71 FPS in Prey when on the same 4K resolution, so the fact that AMD chose to use two Vega GPUs to achieve roughly the same ballpark results isn't very telling of what a single Vega GPU can bring to the table. "

If AMD picked the best benchmark (i.e. the benchmark where they got the best result), then vega is already in deep trouble if crossfired cards cannot achieve the same performance as one GTX 1080.

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i couldn't get any result googling for RX580 in CF mode doing Prey for 4k resolution, for reference
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According to Raja those card ran "comfortably well above any single GPU". laugh.gif
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From TPU benchmark 1080 barely meet 60fps average@4K.
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post Jun 2 2017, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Jun 2 2017, 12:33 PM)
thanks... interesting read. but it does not do anything to dispel any doubts, eh... maybe by design? i mean, maybe they want to keep us in doubt for now?

anyway, the demo by AMD CEO quoted by notebookcheck was apparently "locked at 60 fps." if this is indeed true, it doesn't really mean that it was the limit for the setup. however, locking the fps just fail (to me, at least) to demonstrate the potential that threadripper has, or even the vega Xfire setup.
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Yup, i think they want to destroy Vega hype train. Hopefully they didn't re-create unnecessary hype near launch day.

I recall many complaint about the demo seem stuttered/full with screen tearing which mean it's not locked at 60fps imo. hmm.gif
That could also mean it ran below 60fps. laugh.gif

The demo they show simply mean "look we got it running, at 4K ;D" to me, not showcasing their performance.

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