After visiting Lowyat plaza today and meeting those promoters.. I m even more confused about the pricing of all versions of Windows Vista!!

Can anyone clarify this by posting the correct pricing of both OEM and Retail Price for each and every version of Windows Vista from Home Basic til Ultimate Version?
Tomorrow i m gona visit LYP once more.. to get it!!!

1 Female promoter told me that OEM is only for 1 PC...and not transferable..thts the different from Retail! How true is tht?
1 Male promoter told me OEM is like a pirating software and canot be updated online.. Worst promoter I've ever met I think...True?


Thanks....

OEM should be purchased along with a new PC, that after installed, it has to be a part of the computer, u can format and reinstall it back to the same pc, its original, legal copy. But its limitation is u CANNOT installed it again into another pc even u dont use the old pc anymore or change to another operating system. Cause it has to run a procedure to bind the copy of the windows to your hardware, i believe its call activate.

After install, u are given 30 days to activate your copy of windows with internet, where microsoft know the OEM copy u purchased is link to the hardware, so if u reinstalled to another computer, u cannot reactivate anymore thus, after 30 days, it will lock your PC.

Retail is different, u have 1 copy, u can install into 1 unit of your computer, u can move it from pc to pc, as long as u have enough license for each pc u have(if u have 5 pc running windows xp pro, u can install into 5 pc), its not bind into any hardware, so u can change, upgrade, so its more expensive. And I think u can have another backup copy running with the retail version(installed into 2 pc with 1 license, as long as they dont run simutanously), its for backup reason(1 pc down, u swap).

i'm interested to know whether I can buy those oem version separately without purchasing any new pc.Actually I just bought one new laptop last month and that package which I bought was out of OS,so now I'm using XP which I had.But I really want to install Vista,so could I get those OEM versions from resellers?What will be the price for home premier?

u can buy them saparately, the activation is the point of decision, if u activate with wrong pc, sorry, there is no turning back, the key is used, registered, for the 1st pc u activate with.

I donno the price but thats how OEM works.

I think OEM is cheaper compared to retail as the license is only applicable to the PC that comes with it. If u try installing OEM on another machine or yr newer PC with the same CD-key, it is considered as pirated and u won't be able to activate yr windows. As for retail version, u can use it only on 1 machine, but u can use it jz in case u wan to sell off yr old PC and get a new one, the key is still usable in the new PC.

I m also thinking of buying the OEM version because my laptop comes without a Windows OS. Actually how much price difference between the OEM and retail version ?

hey i want to ask

my computer is currently running Windows XP Pro OEM version

so can i buy Vista Home Premium OEM edition and install on this computer?

By law, no.

OEM is supposed to be shipped (or rather pre-installed) with a new computer hardware only


This could be the most hilarious statement I've ever seen. I guess he's too desperate to meet his quota in selling retail Vista

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Feb 4 2007, 09:30 AM

but on the other hand,there are a lot of hardware resellers to sell out those OEM-edition windows,so we saw that there has such markets because most of consumers don't know or don't care about what is the type of the software at all.And actually for my sense,the OEM version can cheaper a lot than retail one.

what we only need to consider is how is your computer's mainboard quality as the OEM version will follow the mainboard after you first time install,thus it cannot be actived by other computer or different mainboard.(conclusion from other ppls as well).

The Star newspaper reported
"Prices range from RM860 to RM1,700, but buyers can get up to 17% discount during the promotion period. "

I presume the promotion period is left only today.

but is there discount for OEM versions? I only saw the discounts for vista ultimate and office

lets say i've bought a machine with an OEM vista in it.. can i upgrade it to retail buy purcasing the product keys onli??

I dont think so....

wat do u mean 'by law'?

and how much does it cost to get the retail version (Home Premium Edition)?

This post has been edited by limjix: Feb 4 2007, 11:17 AM

so is it cheaper to get winxp last time with free upgrade to vista? promotion still available?

Got it from the Cycom booth outside Low Yat.

He refer to this 1. "OEM is supposed to be shipped (or rather pre-installed) with a new computer hardware only" - Legally by Law.

wah, OEM is damn cheap...should get OEm now...

i bought windows vista at funan it mall today and the price is singapore dollar $288 for the premium and got $40 dis. So i bought windows 1 care and added another $19.00 for it. (the retail price is $59). For the basic the price is $249.00.

if the price is accurate,then it is damn cheap...compared with those XP,it is only RM20-50 more......And i'm waiting for somebody who has installed the new Vista to share the practical experience.

This post has been edited by liciece: Feb 4 2007, 01:35 PM

Thanks bro, for the clarification.
Retail is still the way to go if budget is not issue!

functions wise, OEM and retail are the same rite?

yeap, its same

wats the diff between the enterprise n other editions of vista?

By right and law, oem is indeed bind to the hardware where you purchase with together. But I can tell you that you can installed it on few pcs and get them all activated same time (tested and work for times), but I not encouraging you doing so. Also the oem had an activation period where you can active it online for x numbers of times and after that period you had to call up ms hotline for activation through their online customer support (experience with xp pro oem)

For those of you that are interested I just got a price on the Small Business Office 2007 OEM RM500, compared with the retail of RM1500

Read the small print :

*OEM Product must bundle with New PC

That means you have to buy a PC together with the OEM Vista.

OEM is for computer manufacturer like DELL, HP to bundled it with their computer. All support is provided by those manufacturer, u get very limited support from microsoft if buying OEM. For developing market, they don't really care u buy retail or oem, as long its original its consider legal. What they concern most is those pirated 10 bucks CD.

Btw what's the equivalent Vista version for XP Pro?? Vista Business??

and not to forget there is this "upgrade version".. they are cheaper then retail too..

OEM PCs are not limited to big brands like Dell or HP.

If Cycom assembled thier own clone PC and put their own brand logo on that PC also, it is considered OEM.

PC is OEM from Cycom, while the PC components are OEM from their respective manufacturers.

Why cant we just buy the OEM version and install them ourselves?
Can or not? The retail version is damn expensive meh.

Once installed, the OS is 'tied' to the machine.

How do they define a new machine?
(swapping CPUs? mobo? HDD?)

What if the primary HDD got corrupted (and
we're unable to properly uninstall the OS)
which we would then need to reinstall the OS
on a new HDD (on the same machine) ...

OEM Pack can be bought together with either 1 of the new hardware components like keyboard, mouse, RAM, CPU, etc OR a full set of PC system.

This is told by Microsoft representative when I attended their conference 2 years back. The same rules should apply on current Windows Vista.

Plaza Low Yat promotion ends 11,February 2007.

"Wow" Promotion For Retailed Packing :

1.Windows Vista Home Basic Full Version................RM 715.00,After RM 859.00
2.Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade....................RM 369.00,After RM 446.00
3.Windows Vista Home Premium Full Version..........RM 848.00,After RM 1020.00
4.Windows Vista Home premium Upgrade..............RM 571.00,After RM 686.00
5.Windows Vista Business Full Version...................RM 1055.00,After RM 1271.00
6.Windows Vista Business upgrade........................RM 710.00,After RM 855.00
7.Windows Vista Ultimate Full Version....................RM 1415.00,After RM 1703.00
8.Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade.......................RM 930.00,After RM 1118.00

09.Office Standard 2007 Full Version.....................RM 1415.00,After RM 1703.00
10.Office Standard 2007 Upgrade Version.............RM 780.00,After RM 938.00
11.Office SBE 2007 Full Version............................RM 1463.00,After RM 1759.00
12.Office SBE 2007 Upgrade Upgrade...................RM 907.00, After RM 1091.00
13.Office Professional 2007 Full Version.................RM 1626.00,After RM 1954.00
14.Office Professional 2007 Upgrade ....................RM 1073.00,After RM 1290.00
15.Office Uiltimate 2007 Full version.....................RM 2330.00,After RM 2663.00
16.Office Home & Student 2007 Full Version..........RM 480.00, After RM 578.00


MICROSOFT - *** OEM *** (From us )

For easier comparison :

Note : 32 bit / 64bit...........Few Ringgit Different only.

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic..................RM 305.00
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium............RM 388.00
Microsoft Windows Vista Business E...................RM 498.00
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate E...................RM 668.00
Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007...............RM 410.00
Microsoft Office Basic 2007.................................RM 565.00
Microsoft Office Small Business 2007.................RM 778.00
Microsoft Office Professional 2007.....................RM 1028.00

Have a nice day.

This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 6 2007, 04:36 PM

i bought it all for rm5...

Yeah, and I got it for free. Kthanxbai.

If i m not mistaken, Enterprise wil never hit the retail shelf, its only to be sold by the major server makers. e.g Dell, IBM, HP, Sun and So on, its only installed and well tuned to suit the hardwares in the server... the main and only reason for that is to solidified stability of the servers that run 24/7 nonstop. So only the Microsoft assigned companies are given permission to installed and fine tuned the Enterprise version.
Correct me if I m wrong lah!!!!


Thanks for the price.. bro ....Great Help...!!!

can u don't be so rude? be polite.

Cannot.
You think everyone want to listen to how you get it for RM5?

If you can get original Vista for RM 5, I give you money and you buy 100 units for me.
If I don't get original Vista then I will sue you RM 50,000 OK?

isn't it ironic when people are willing to buy high end gadgets like nokia nseries, minolta d40, geforce 8800 and intel core 2 duo, but not willing to buy original microsoft windows.

I feel the same and agree with u.
But I think people basically judge on either it is tangible or intangible assets.
They are willing to buy high end gadgets because they can feel,hold and see it.Probably is .

Not to mention it gives them more bragging right

If you own a 8800GTX, you can show off by installing the latest Games with high frame-rate whatsoever.

If you're using a legit Windows Vista, outsiders won't really know/care whether it's legit or not hence there's nothing to show off

For software, what you must consider is not only the cost of the Box, Manual and CD, but also the high RnD cost, the support you're receiving throughout the lifespan of the OS (hey, do you really think Microsoft provide monthly security, IE/WMP updates for free?)

Windows Vista Enterprise is available only to Volume License customers who have PCs covered by Microsoft Software Assurance. Basically this applies to corporations with lots of PC's maybe more in hundreds.

I am currently using Windows XP Home Edition which came bundled with my laptop so if I switch to Vista, I should go for Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade or go for the Windows Vista Full Version? Is there any difference between this 2 since the price of the upgrade version is significantly lower than the full version?

guys,

i plan to get vista. There are so many version, can anyone recommend which one should i get? I'm lost la

anyone using it alr?

Dun be get confused, my freind .
.If u have windows XP home edition after 27,Nov 2006,U will get free upgrade to Windows Vista Home basic with payable to microsoft for a small courier fees.
.The different between Windows Xp Home Edition vs Vista home basic for retailed packing.Oem packing is u bought a new PC/Laptop together .As Oem means software that distributing with a new PC/Laptop.
.If you do not have any OS with ur old PC/Laptop, u have to buy the full version.

This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 7 2007, 01:47 PM

i want to ask.
i using Win XP now and i want to change to WIN vista OEM is that possible?

And addition when Reformeting Win Vista OEM is that possible? cause it only say use 1 time

Any idea wheres the best place to buy it? lol

Low Yat Plaza!!!!

not use 1 time,but use on only one PC.

You are right.One PC one OS only.But New Oem OS is only for new PC/Laptop.
On my opinion,there is an exceptional case.

Let say : U change mainboard ,change harddisk ,change processor, change Ram for the purpose of upgrading,Microsoft might allow u to use the Oem version.Correct me if I am wrong.

This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 7 2007, 05:15 PM

well a friend of mine bought a laptop last month... comes with an oem win xp. had to format the laptop after a few weeks due to some problems. cant activate it after that as he changed some specs between the time of 1st activation to reinstallation. all he did was called microsoft, and they issued him with a new product key.. took him less than 5 mins i think.

for upgrading, microsoft doesnt allow user to do clean installations, which mean you will have to upgrade vista on to your existing XPHome or Pro. if your vista crash and again you will have to reinstall your XPhome or pro then again upgrade to vista.

edit -Source

This post has been edited by evilpuppy: Feb 7 2007, 05:49 PM

Exactly.There's other circumstances u will get the product key without any changes. One OS is one time activation, is true.But if ur harddisk spoilt ,softwares corrupted etc.U need re-installed or reformatted the harddisk.All u have to do is just explain the problems u face.

After all, u can't cheating also.Microsoft request ur old product keys verification before they issue a new product keys.

U can either use phone or thru internet online.



This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 7 2007, 06:33 PM

Should not be that ler .
U dun need to re-installed XP home or XP Pro.Not logical.I think Microsoft will send a complete CD same like Oem version.U dun need to use the previous version.Use the Cd they sent to you is enough.

This is more comfortable.Software giant should consider possible future problems face by the user.Hence, I think u have think too much.Hopefully I am right too.

Have a nice day.

This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 7 2007, 06:37 PM

Too bad my OEM XP home I got it around 10 months ago so I cannot upgrade it for free So now as with my XP home, all I need is to go for the Upgrade Version is it? Waaayy cheaper then, lol.

What edition of Vista is reocmmended for ppl like us who reformat our HDDs often, as well as always changing components? I am interest in the Home Premium version but retail at ~ RM1000 is a little heavy man...

if u change your mainboard a hundred times, you'll just have to call MS to activate your system.. thats all.. you can still use the OEM key.. this has been going on for my review system for a long time and i can remember all my key presses for my CD Key.. the only problem is that sometimes it takes a long time as you have to press all your keys and listen to the automatic voice repeat it..

For XP
------

Call hotline..
Follow instructions..
Key in CD Key..
MS rejects your CD Key..
Operator picks up call..
repeat CD Key..
Gives you a phone activation code..
DONE..

its actually almost the same with the retail version, just that you can try a few more times more than the OEM..

the OEM is an "upgrade" only, and not like the full version which would let you install even if you don't have any OS running.

i noob in this kind of software what the different of OEM and FPP ??? and why FPP is so expensive ><" i wanted to buy a Vista Package and how much it will cause ? cause i saw that Cycom enterprise cause rm600 !!! wow that expensive man so wanted to get my self a original vista anyone know the price here?

if i bought xp pro and i'm allow to get free upgrade to business, am i allow to request upgrade to ultimate? of course i'm willing to pay abit for the upgrade la.
Can?

tat canot lor. MS also din said tat can upgrade it to ultimate.
Ultimate got some special things.
which u must purchase, and dun let us to upgrade. =)

that means window xp original one can uprade to basic home one but not ultimate ??? ultimate got something special ? example ? anyone here know or bought and try before ?

Wrong.

Retail upgrade version to Windows Vista ultimate from Windows XP is available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista...ons_and_pricing

i know can uprade to vista ultimate but what the special thing you guys talking that ultimate got what different ? and 1 more thing FPP and OEM package what the different ?

The very same page that I posted has got the differences between all Windows Vista editions

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/179327/+1760

Get ur answer by referring to the post 1769 link above.Post by Ianlim.

Have a nice day.

This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 10 2007, 02:23 PM

ok, i will be heading to low yat plaza to but Vista Premium OEM version. I believe it was selling at below RM400. I am now using genuine OEM Win XP Pro. I guess this win XP pro will be consider wasted la?? Cannot upgrade cause it was bought quite sometimes ago..

Wrong. OEM is a full version not an upgrade. Only thing, the agreement you make with Microsoft is that you will install it one one machine only and it must come with a new machine or hardware. To ensure you keep the agreement, they have made online activation compulsory and keeps track of your hardware changes.

It is all about agreements and whether you wanna agree with them or not. In the end, if you couldn't be bothered, you will just end up getting a pirated copy at the pasar malam. If you are buying an OEM to install on an old machine, then just the same as buying pirated stuff, cause you are not complying with the EULA in the end. And updates, fixs and stuff will always be leaked into the net. That is why pirated software users prevail.

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Added on February 18, 2007, 6:58 pmYou can buy the upgrade and use the upgrade version no matter ho wlong ago you bought your XP. Just that some computer and some copies of windows bought in the past 3-4 months are eligible for a free upgrade to Windows Vista by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer. Some Manufacturers, if I am not mistaken, extends this offer to all Vista Capable PCs. So just try calling the Manufacturer and see if you are eligible or not. IF your computer has the Vista Ready sticker, there is high chance that your are.

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Feb 18 2007, 06:58 PM

Vista Premium is selling at RM1330

[quote=chicaman,Feb 18 2007, 09:02 PM]Vista Premium is selling at RM1330

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did u mean retail price for vista home premium?i asked in low yat microsoft store he siad rm999 only..

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Added on February 18, 2007, 6:58 pm

You can buy the upgrade and use the upgrade version no matter ho wlong ago you bought your XP. Just that some computer and some copies of windows bought in the past 3-4 months are eligible for a free upgrade to Windows Vista by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer. Some Manufacturers, if I am not mistaken, extends this offer to all Vista Capable PCs. So just try calling the Manufacturer and see if you are eligible or not. IF your computer has the Vista Ready sticker, there is high chance that your are.

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so do u mean there are 3 types of vista
1.retail:i can install in whichever pc i want
2.OEM:only can stick to one pc,after install in one pc i can't change to others even i uninstall the previous one
3.upgrade:which is i must have one OS running then only applicable

correct me if i am wrong...and is the upgrade version more cheaper than OEM?

This post has been edited by moto-moto: Feb 19 2007, 12:08 AM

Yup, i would like to know. Is there any upgrade list price? Is it cheaper than OEM? Basically if i wan to upgrade, do i have to bring my Win XP Pro cds to show them or what so that i can entitle to free upgrade? Any clear instruction?

[quote=moto-moto,Feb 18 2007, 10:28 PM]
did u mean retail price for vista home premium?i asked in low yat microsoft store he siad rm999 only..

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Added on February 18, 2007, 6:58 pm

You can buy the upgrade and use the upgrade version no matter ho wlong ago you bought your XP. Just that some computer and some copies of windows bought in the past 3-4 months are eligible for a free upgrade to Windows Vista by Microsoft or the Computer Manufacturer. Some Manufacturers, if I am not mistaken, extends this offer to all Vista Capable PCs. So just try calling the Manufacturer and see if you are eligible or not. IF your computer has the Vista Ready sticker, there is high chance that your are.

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so do u mean there are 3 types of vista
1.retail:i can install in whichever pc i want
2.OEM:only can stick to one pc,after install in one pc i can't change to others even i uninstall the previous one
3.upgrade:which is i must have one OS running then only applicable

correct me if i am wrong...and is the upgrade version more cheaper than OEM?

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[quote=adriankhoo153,Feb 19 2007, 01:08 PM]
Yup, i would like to know. Is there any upgrade list price? Is it cheaper than OEM? Basically if i wan to upgrade, do i have to bring my Win XP Pro cds to show them or what so that i can entitle to free upgrade? Any clear instruction?

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1. Retail Pack = Install on any PC you want. But limited to one PC at a time.(Maybe can install on one portable PC also, not too sure about Microsoft Vista EULA, but some software allows you to install on one desktop and one laptop as long as you only use either one at a time). If you change hardware, no problem. If you change computer, then you have to uninstall Vista form the old computer then only can install on the new one.

2.OEM = Can only be installed on new PC or when you buy a new hardware that make you eligible for an OEM license.(Check with Microsoft what hardware can). And it will be stuck to that PC forever. If you wanna upgrade, you will have to call Microsoft when you activate and validate your copy of Vista. Tell them that you upgraded and bla bla bla.

3. Upgrade = You must have any version of windows XP already running on your computer. I do not think you can upgrade from a version prior to XP. Call Microsoft to confirm.

4. I do not know the price for OEM or Upgrade. Just call the shop lah. Got so many price list on LYN main page. Download them, get the number and call the shop. If you want to upgrade, you will have to buy the Upgrade Pack. No need to bring any CDs. (Some computer don't even come with Windows CD like my one cause XP Tablet PC has no official CD. It come only pre installed.)

5. If you want a free upgrade you have to contact your manufacturer/distributor or go to their website to find out how you can get a free upgrade. This is an example for Toshiba's PC. Or go an visit Microsoft website, look for the free upgrade section and select your manufacturer. Then you will be directed to your manufacturer's website.

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/ebtext...aExpressUpgrade

Don't think that is the price, if that is, then you are cheated

Most of the places are selling it for less than RM1000

4. I do not know the price for OEM or Upgrade. Just call the shop lah. Got so many price list on LYN main page. Download them, get the number and call the shop. If you want to upgrade, you will have to buy the Upgrade Pack. No need to bring any CDs. (Some computer don't even come with Windows CD like my one cause XP Tablet PC has no official CD. It come only pre installed.)

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well thanks for the info...i just wanna get some extra info from u guys to clear my doubts...u are right, there are a lot of shops selling vista but every shop i asked they told me different thing.the mirosoft shop in lyp said rm999 for premium is retail,the other said only rm395 the other one said rm395 is oem version,so who is correct?microsoft?then what is rm395?

This post has been edited by moto-moto: Feb 22 2007, 01:10 AM

[quote=moto-moto,Feb 22 2007, 01:09 AM]
4. I do not know the price for OEM or Upgrade. Just call the shop lah. Got so many price list on LYN main page. Download them, get the number and call the shop. If you want to upgrade, you will have to buy the Upgrade Pack. No need to bring any CDs. (Some computer don't even come with Windows CD like my one cause XP Tablet PC has no official CD. It come only pre installed.)

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well thanks for the info...i just wanna get some extra info from u guys to clear my doubts...u are right, there are a lot of shops selling vista but every shop i asked they told me different thing.the mirosoft shop in lyp said rm999 for premium is retail,the other said only rm395 the other one said rm395 is oem version,so who is correct?microsoft?then what is rm395?

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The highest price one should be the retail pack. Check the box before buying. Maybe you can call Microsoft and ask them if they have a recommended retail price and what are their authorised resellers/distributors. Also make sure that you state the version of Vista when you ask the Price, like Homa Basic, Home Premium, Business or Ultimate. So ask them like this "What is the price of an original copy of Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Retail Pack?"

And beware there may be people selling fake windows that are cleverly packed to look like originals. So call Microsoft and find out who is an authorised dealer. You gonna use vista for quite sometime and it cost alot so might as well put in a little effort into it, even if you have to drive a little further or pay a little more. I would easily fork out an extra 30-100 for the peace of mind.

Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007
This one can install for 3 coms am I right? I remember there's one you can install up to 3 computers?

Yeah... but it's only for the retail pack. If you purchase OEM cannot. However, the condition for Home and Student is you can only use at home not in the office... *darnit*