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idealhometech
post Aug 18 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(tyss @ Aug 17 2017, 08:58 PM)
Anyone can recommend cctv vendor around kl area?
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Hi, how can we help u?
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post Aug 18 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(vivianng89 @ Aug 17 2017, 12:29 PM)
Hi, can please suggest where to install the CCTV (external & internal)? And what type of CCTV is recommendable? Below I attach my house floor plan. Thank you.
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Terrace house?
For external, mainly cover your house perimeter, pointing at your house door/windows...
For internal, can put at living, dining area, kitchen...
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post Aug 19 2017, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pegasus88 @ Aug 18 2017, 11:47 AM)
Hi,

Which technology is the most common offer by cctv installer nowadays ?

Is it common to use IP CCTV camera here ? Like using RJ45 connect camera to a NVR, hosting the video file by ourself.
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Few year ago when Coax system still analog (max 1000TVL, resolution max 720x480), if you want HD, 720P system, u need to use IP. But now the trend is TVI, CVI, AHD.. Still Use Coax. For example, TVI and CVI now can support Camera 5megapixel. AHD support Camera 1.3MP (720p) or 2MP (1080P).

This let user who still using old system can direct upgrade to higher resolution system, use higher megapixel camera.
When demand high and higher, price will become lower and lower.

So the trend now is High Resolution over Coax.

Quality and Price: TVI > CVI > AHD
IP is most expensive if u compare TVI, CVI, AHD system with same resolution.
For small scale, go to Coax System.
For large scale, go for IP system.
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post Aug 19 2017, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Pegasus88 @ Aug 19 2017, 09:38 PM)
How big is large scale?

My home is a bungalow that needs 4-6 bullet camera outdoor. consider large or small scale ?
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What is ur house size?
4 - 6 consider very small.
Jz go for Coax System.

Large Scale is like multi floor office, residential area, shopping mall, parking lot....

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post Nov 14 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(arju @ Nov 14 2017, 09:45 PM)
hi, which hikvision HD-TVI cctv have motion detection for outdoor.
I check not one. please assist maybe i miss out. TQ sifu
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All HIKVISION HD-TVI DVR got built-in motion detection function.
The processing is at DVR end, not Camera. Coz it is not IPCam.

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U can set motion record, and motion push notification too.

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post Nov 30 2017, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Nov 30 2017, 09:31 AM)
hi mind to share
currently using wireless ipcam like xiaomi cam etc
but i am looking for outdoor camera which still can record in case the wireless line is down
and any cheap wireless alarm for condo?
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Outdoor cam for Condo?
Alarm for condo, only 1 point?
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post Nov 30 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Nov 30 2017, 10:15 AM)
yes..both..only formain entrance only
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y can't use xiaomi at entrance?
if only 1 alarm point, u can go lazada for DIY wireless alarm, a lot cheap DIY wireless alarm..
Some are GSm alarm, u need to get a simcard for it. Some can connect to phone line.

Else, go for Bluguard Ximple Wireless alarm, which come with 1 PTZ Camera. It is a GSM alarm, need simcard.
Price start from RM1299.

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post Dec 3 2017, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(waga @ Dec 3 2017, 02:20 PM)
Installed Hikvision recently...bullet cameras and NVR (DS 7716N1E4/16P)....working fine except when want to forward remote playback video to Whatsapp - "the file format is not supported" however still picture can be forwarded via Whatsapp.

Checked with Installer - he confirmed with the technical guy from the principle -"the app can only extract the MP4 format...have to wait until they update the app"  rclxub.gif

Need help here as I believed the playback video can actually use Whatsapp but may have miss something in the NVR? icon_question.gif
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U can export to Dropbox/GDrive/Email, or export the video to ur phone 1st, then only send by whatsapp.
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post Jan 18 2018, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Jan 17 2018, 02:53 PM)
Guys, got quoted for alarm and cctv for a double storey terrace intermediate as below:-

Bluguard v16n plus

- v16nplus mainboard 8 zone
- 12v transformer
- 12v 7ah battery
- metal enclosure
- external siren with enclosure
- siren strobe light
- v16n lcd keypad 1 unit
- pir motion sensor single tech indoor 1 unit
- vibration sensor 10 units
- magnetic sensor 5 units

all inclusive cabling, installation and t&c RM 1.9k

for cctv

- hikvision 4 channel hdtvi 1080p turbo 3.0(DS-7204HQHI-K1) = 1 unit
- hikvision 2.0 mp hdtvi bullet/dome ir camera, smart ir 15m(DS-2CE16D0T) = 4 units
- 1 tb surveillance hard disk = 1 unit
- 12v 5a switching power supply = 1 unit

all inclusive cabling, installation and t&c RM1.9k

Price quoted reasonable?
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Price OK.
For CCTV, u can top up abit to get better HIK DVR (Realtime Record) and HIK camera with ExIR, WDR, Ultra Low Light.
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post Mar 12 2018, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(arju @ Mar 11 2018, 11:40 PM)
hi sifu,
cynics or hikvision? pls help.

quoted cynics (old or new model?)

XC3310
XC3330
XD3104L-3108L

TQ bro
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If u opt for Cynics, go for T series. Price not much different from X series.
If u want better quality and function, go for HIKVISION.
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post Mar 15 2018, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 15 2018, 08:34 PM)
May I know if there is any recommended app that can view CCTVs remotely from iPhone? Are these apps safe? Example: once we key in user and password, can the app owner or others (by hacking or whatever) constantly have access to the CCTV views???
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Why use 3rd party app?
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post Mar 15 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 15 2018, 09:42 PM)
If not? Most now got their own app is it? My CCTV quite old already.
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Yes, all cctv now come with own app, except those OEM CCTV.
For example:
HIKVISION - IVMS-4500
DAHUA - gDMSS or iDMSS

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post Mar 15 2018, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(arju @ Mar 15 2018, 11:08 PM)
hi, what differ HIK DVR for realtime record and non real time.
Also 5MP/4MP DVR can use 2MP camera?

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realtime framerate for FullHD is 25fps
non-realtime is 15fps

5MP DVR can support all 5MP and lower MP camera.
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post Mar 17 2018, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 16 2018, 09:37 PM)
So detailed thread. Learn a lot.

So basically for my house where I want 2 outdoor camera front, 1 or maybe 2 camera rear, 1 indoor camera. It would be best to get a network recorder with PoE support, so I just need to run 1 cable only instead of COAX+POWER.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/productDetail/8291

Would something like that be sufficient? I am leaning towards Dahua for their camera's low light performance.

I'll be doing plaster ceiling, so I figure a lot of the cables can be concealed.
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Are u going to lay the cable urself?
If yes, network cable is easier for u. Only IP System cost higher.

Else, u can ask wireman to lay the coax+power for u, then u can go for Dahua HDCVI or HIKVISION HDTVI, both system got LowLight version. System a lot cheaper than IP.

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post Mar 17 2018, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 17 2018, 10:32 AM)
No I am not going to DIY, as part of my renovation gonna get someone professional to install it.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no reason to choose HDCVI systems over IP for a new install, other than cost, as it seems IP is the future and HDCVI is a format meant to allow existing analog systems to be “updated” without recalling.

What’s the price difference like between HDCVI vs IP? 1.5x? 2x?

https://www.security-camera-warehouse.com/k...ge-base/hd-sdi/

Good read. IP seems to be the way to go.
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HDCVI technology a bit slower than HDTVI..
Now HDTVI already got 4K resolution, up to 8MP.. Price a lot cheaper than IP 8MP.
This technology will not stop because of high demand.
TVI is develop by HIKVISION who is World No.1 Surveillance Manufacturer.

But if budget is not a issue, then sure IP is better. IP cam expensive because it not only capture and output image, it got own processor. Is like merging a camera and recorder into 1 box. That's why expensive.
If u need extra feature like video analytic, face recognition, AI, then must use IPCam.
Another reason why we use IP is, for large scale project. more than 16 cameras, long distance cabling, wireless....

If just record, view, remote access, u can go for analog (TVI or CVI), analog cam with built-in True WDR processor, Ultra Low Light sensor still a lot cheaper than IP.
The DVR still can handle normal video analysis like motion detection, line intrusion detection....

Below is the video about TVI 4.0


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post Mar 20 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 03:48 PM)
Can we get RM350 IP camera with the following features:
(1) POE IPCam
(2) Bullet type
(3) 5MP @ 25fps
(4) Night vision
(5) 4X Optical Zoom
(6) 4mm-12mm lens
(7) Audio recording
(8) Support iOS & Android app
(9) Windows & Mac Client App
(10) Motion detection
(11) FTP recording
(12) Cloud recording
(13) E-mail notification
(14) Push notification
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LOL RM350 shakehead.gif

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at least RM750
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post Mar 20 2018, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Mar 20 2018, 04:52 PM)
Wah, so expensive one ka???
Made In China leh this brand...
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Yes, very expensive. 5MP still not commonly used here..
Don't look down on this China Brand, Dahua is World No.3 Surveillance System Manufacturer.
and World No.1 is HIKVISION, also China Brand.
No.2 is SONY.
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post Apr 20 2018, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(psyeo @ Apr 19 2018, 03:20 PM)
I'm planning to change the Mycam360V 16ch DVR (which i believe is a variant of DVR by HIKViSION), the network feature no longer works. the video input uses BNC (1.0Vp-p, 75Ω) http://www.mycamexpert.com/uploads/product...340w380360v.pdf

may I know which model of DVR shall I replaced it with? using analog camera

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which "Network feature" not working? Built-in HiDDNS not working?

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post Apr 20 2018, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(chichichi @ Apr 20 2018, 09:22 AM)
Dear all, please gave a look at the quotation below, what do you think?
Absolutely no idea about security system. In addition to the quotation below, do I have to engage companies like ADT for alarm?

Thanks in advance for your kind suggestion..
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That 2MP camera very expensive ler.. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 20 2018, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(chichichi @ Apr 20 2018, 09:22 AM)
Dear all, please gave a look at the quotation below, what do you think?
Absolutely no idea about security system. In addition to the quotation below, do I have to engage companies like ADT for alarm?

Thanks in advance for your kind suggestion..
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WOW... 19inch PC Monitor RM600 something??
24inch FullHD Monitor only RM400 something in the market..

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