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ckl1998
post Nov 28 2021, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 28 2021, 11:51 AM)
Yes, used cat6 & wired it even for points that you are not sure. If double storey or more run cat6 to every floor link with the designated fiber incoming supply. You won't regret doing this.
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Though the camera is PoE type, should I add power point next to it for future proof in additional power source required?

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post Nov 28 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Nov 28 2021, 12:48 PM)
Though the camera is PoE type, should I add power point next to it for future proof in additional power source required?
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No need extra power cable. Technology won't go backwards. brows.gif
And actually even though it's POE, only 2 pairs is being used, Cable 1236. You still have 4578 as spares.

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post Nov 30 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 28 2021, 02:27 PM)
No need extra power cable. Technology won't go backwards. brows.gif
And actually even though it's POE, only 2 pairs is being used, Cable 1236. You still have 4578 as spares.
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5.0MP camera (with true WDR) is 2.5 times the price of 2.0MP. Other than price, any disadvantages of using high resolution camera in residential? Any implication of viewing online via internet if the resolution is high?

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Nov 30 2021, 02:22 PM)
5.0MP camera (with true WDR) is 2.5 times the price of 2.0MP. Other than price, any disadvantages of using high resolution camera in residential? Any implication of viewing online via internet if the resolution is high?
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You will only need 120dB WDR or higher if the camera is in a low light placement looking out into a brightly lit environment. If price is not an issue, there is no disadvantage on using 5Mp or even 8Mp(4k). For internet viewing you can always select the 2nd stream if bandwidth is low. In fact some app will prompt you to switch to low resolution iautomatically.

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post Nov 30 2021, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 30 2021, 02:37 PM)
You will only need 120dB WDR or higher if the camera is in a low light placement looking out into a brightly lit environment. If price is not an issue, there is no disadvantage on using 5Mp or even 8Mp(4k). For internet viewing you can always select the 2nd stream if bandwidth is low. In fact some app will prompt you to switch to low resolution iautomatically.
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As 5.0MP aspect ration is 4:3, how is the feel, does the output look weird since it is not in 16:9?

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post Nov 30 2021, 06:14 PM

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Have you heard about this brand Centrix? I think a local brand. How is it?
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Nov 30 2021, 06:14 PM)
Have you heard about this brand Centrix? I think a local brand. How is it?
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Sure but I think Ip camera/nvr they should be selling rebadge UNV, well at least that was before MCO when their sales contacted me. As for HD Analog HVR, they used to be selling the XMeye aka Xiongmai.
Just google Xiongmai and you will know how great it is brows.gif
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post Nov 30 2021, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 30 2021, 08:31 PM)
Sure but I think Ip camera/nvr they should be selling rebadge UNV, well at least that was before MCO when their sales contacted me. As for HD Analog HVR, they used to be selling the XMeye aka Xiongmai.
Just google Xiongmai and you will know how great it is brows.gif
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I see. No experience with this brand. Here is the spec of the camera, price is close to 400 per piece, competitive?
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Nov 30 2021, 10:11 PM)
I see. No experience with this brand. Here is the spec of the camera, price is close to 400 per piece, competitive?
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I have one demo of same spec ipc just without SDcard but added in speaker for 2 way audio plus white led. If you want to view live can PM me for instructions. I have yet to set the AI though.

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post Dec 1 2021, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 1 2021, 12:10 AM)
I have one demo of same spec ipc just without SDcard but added in speaker for 2 way audio plus white led. If you want to view live can PM me for instructions. I have yet to set the AI though.
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Bullet type is with 4.0mm lens whereas dome type is 2.8mm. Understand 2.8mm has wider viewing angle. What other consideration should I take into account in deciding a bullet or dome? My usage is for residential, 2 story terrace, to monitor car porch, back lane, balcony and internals like dining and living hall.
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Dec 1 2021, 11:22 AM)
Bullet type is with 4.0mm lens whereas dome type is 2.8mm. Understand 2.8mm has wider viewing angle. What other consideration should I take into account in deciding a bullet or dome? My usage is for residential, 2 story terrace, to monitor car porch, back lane, balcony and internals like dining and living hall.
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I have 4 units of this still in box. It's bullet with 2.8mm lens. Would not recommend 5Mp with 2.8mm lens. For aesthetic normally will used dome for indoor.4k bullet

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post Dec 1 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 1 2021, 11:47 AM)
I have 4 units of this still in box. It's bullet with 2.8mm lens. Would not recommend 5Mp with 2.8mm lens. For aesthetic normally will used dome for indoor.4k bullet
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If aesthetic is not an issue, 4.0mm is recommended for indoor compared to 2.8mm?

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Dec 1 2021, 01:08 PM)
If aesthetic is not an issue, 4.0mm is recommended for indoor compared to 2.8mm?
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Used 2.8mm as a last resort if need cover everything using 1 camera.
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post Dec 15 2021, 11:49 AM

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is resolution more than 2Mp recommended if your TV/monitor/laptop/etc screen is max 1080p only ?

and for basic wired cctv monitoring..direct save to disk ( i.e no network, online notification, online viewing). is the connection like this for poe cctv (no need router ?)

nvr with hdd inside -> single cat 6 wire -> 48V poe switch -> 4x cat 6 wires -> 4x poe cameras

also anyone have experience buying cheap nvr/dvr recorder from taobao? can the interface language be changed to english ?
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QUOTE(culain99 @ Dec 15 2021, 11:49 AM)
is resolution more than 2Mp recommended if your TV/monitor/laptop/etc screen is max 1080p only ?

and for basic wired cctv monitoring..direct save to disk ( i.e no network, online notification, online viewing). is the connection like this for poe cctv (no need router ?)

nvr with hdd inside -> single cat 6 wire -> 48V poe switch -> 4x cat 6 wires -> 4x poe cameras

also anyone have experience buying cheap nvr/dvr recorder from taobao? can the interface language be changed to english ?
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Even though your TV 1080p if you used 5Mp or higher when you zoom in can see more details. Just buy a 4 channel POE NVR, forget about the POE switch. No need internet/router still can view/playback
and you only need 4x cat6 to view on TV locally. Taobao you need ask seller if have English GUI.
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post Dec 15 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 15 2021, 02:12 PM)
Even though your TV 1080p if you used 5Mp or higher when you zoom in can see more details. Just buy a 4 channel POE NVR, forget about the POE switch. No need internet/router still can view/playback
and you only need 4x cat6 to view on TV locally. Taobao you need ask seller if have English GUI.
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thank you. I thought most of the small sized poe nvr boxes do not provide power to the cameras....thats why need poe switch to provide power. if can find one that provides power directly and cheap would be perfect. less 1 item to place on shelf & less one power point.

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post Dec 18 2021, 11:40 PM

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hi, im loooking for wireless outdoor cctv as i do not plan to pull any wire around outside the house
may i know what model recommended?

i came across Reolink Argus but there so so many model. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Dec 18 2021, 11:40 PM)
hi, im loooking for wireless outdoor cctv as i do not plan to pull any wire around outside the house
may i know what model recommended?

i came across Reolink Argus but there so so many model.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Wait for other sifu to come

Mean while can chk ezviz brand

https://soyacincau.com/2021/06/21/ezviz-bc1...sia-price-spec/
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post Dec 21 2021, 04:59 PM

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sifus, need some reliable contact (ofcourse with reasonable price innocent.gif ) in klang valley to do POE type CCTV.
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post Dec 23 2021, 08:44 AM

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does anyone have feedback on the ezviz x5c wireless dvr.
How well does it perform?
Plan to have 6-8 wifi cameras outdoors on g floor only.


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