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post Oct 6 2016, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(dk1 @ Oct 6 2016, 12:26 PM)
Anyone took the s-train or v-train before?
Is it really good? biggrin.gif
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depends whether you like it or not and have extra time to spare haha. different season different feeling
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post Oct 6 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Oct 6 2016, 03:20 PM)
According to this

http://english.visitkorea.or.kr/enu/ATR/SI....jsp?cid=264167

Taejongdae Recreation Area (태종대유원지(부산))

Notices
    * Observatory of Taejongdae Recreation Area is closed due to renovation.
    - Period: March 2, 2016 until completion of remodeling construction (Planned for December, 2016)
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    24, Jeonmang-ro, Yeongdo-gu, Busan
    부산광역시 영도구 전망로 24 (동삼동)
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won't affected if one no plan to go in the observatory hehe
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post Oct 6 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 6 2016, 03:53 PM)
had you been to jukseong dream church?
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no. if wanna go all location of drama setting, then definitely the list is very long tongue.gif unless places that i feel worth and wanted to go for photography then i will plan to go. perhaps next round if time permits. kekeke. or after u go already you tell me nice or not.

i have yet to go to the pohang hamigot and this will be added in my list icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 7 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(wyen @ Oct 7 2016, 04:01 PM)
Anyone went to jeonju before? Or solo to jeju before? Going to skip busan cos getting too touristy compared April 2014 which air Asia busan was newly launched that time. Planning next year autumn
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keep on travel oh you.. tongue.gif i seldom travel solo.. korea now touristy already. unless go those outskirts where less tourist will visit. haven't been to jeonju yet so can't comment
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post Oct 7 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(wyen @ Oct 7 2016, 04:11 PM)
Hahaha korea is like second home to me..last time before ringgit currency drops on 2014 managed to travel japan and korea for 1mth. That time Japanese yen 100yen- rm2.9, now sighs currency very bad but still wanna travel while I still can hahaha. Now aiming for non touristy in korea. Even kansai area kyoto japan also very touristy. Guesthouse fully booked
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yalo.. now go where also bad. same here. i also wanna travel eventhough currency weak laugh.gif won very high. just check 3.86.. doh.gif won always on par with usd
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post Oct 10 2016, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(IVL @ Oct 9 2016, 09:50 PM)
Will be in Seoul and Jeju for 8d8n.. 2 person, but only 1 phone..
know about the Wiyo rm12/d.. but thinking not worthy just for 1 phone usage..
but i check KT.Co, 10days package is like whooping 140 ringgit..

Any cheaper alternative guys?

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either you bring 2 phones or use prepaid simcard. prepaid simcard also cost around rm140 for 10 days. actually the one you mention 12/d considered quite cheap already
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post Oct 10 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Oct 10 2016, 03:04 PM)
can u tell me more bout the bathhouse
im thinking to stay 1 or 2 nite there as part of the experience

the locker big enuf for backpack?
security? at open area, if i fall asleep... will someone steal my phone or broke the locker?
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not sure how big is your backpack..
don't go those dodgy type of bathhouse. overall bathhouse in korea is quite safe. don't say broke the locker la, hardly got people steal your phone even you charge your phone at another corner. of cause i can't guarantee 100% no pickpocket however the percentage is quite low.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2016, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Oct 10 2016, 03:46 PM)
seem like korea is quite safe... compared to msia  laugh.gif
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backpack size... medium... about 30L - 50L

if the backpack is too big for the locker, can the owner keep the backpack behind the counter?
nothing valuable inside... not even camera

wallet n passport will be kept in locker
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don't compare it to m'sia lolz. too way behind already. koreans can put their bag in the restaurant or cafe and walk away to order etc. they can leave their phone to plug in to charge on the table (mix with other people phone) and the distance is far from their place. not to worry that people will steal it and etc brows.gif in m'sia if you do that, you can say bye.gif

you can ask the person there to keep your backpack if the locker is too small.

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post Oct 10 2016, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 10 2016, 04:31 PM)
been to jalgalchi?

wonder how to buy the fish and get it cooked to eat ?  sweat.gif
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yes been to jagalchi market. just stroll there but no eat there cause mostly cater for tourist tongue.gif. usually i go to local places more or buy stuffs and cook ourselves.

there are different restaurant there. just buy the seafood that you want and ask the restaurant to cook it for you. saw many tourists that buy and ask them to cook without problem. should be no problem for you la.. some do have english menu and some workers know to speak chinese
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post Oct 10 2016, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Oct 10 2016, 05:47 PM)
Buying local stuff to cook is what I would like to do.

Where would you suggest that I go for the "buy local stuff" ?

Prefer seafood, but if there's good beef I'm always up for it.
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actually you may go jagalchi market to purchase especially in the morning. you might find some cheaper alternative. however i prefer millak raw fish market more brows.gif bujeon market is another place i will not miss..

i don't eat beef so never explore on this haha

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post Oct 12 2016, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 12 2016, 10:16 AM)
Apparently some palaces are opened at night during the autumn. Those who are there now perhaps can go have a look. Quite romantic biggrin.gif
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yes. if you like photography, you can take lotsa night view at the palace

QUOTE(awie666 @ Oct 12 2016, 08:35 AM)
Going to korea next mth
Wat syiok to buy there? I mean cheaper compare here
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what you want to buy or think is cheap then you just buy. buy only necessary not by impulsive or people who tell you it's a must to buy. cause by the end of the day, you will end up wasting your money as you won't be using it icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 12 2016, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 12 2016, 03:56 PM)
Agreed. Last week I saw someone left a baby stroller outside the restaurant with the baby still sleeping inside totally unattended  ohmy.gif
South Korea is the most wired city in the world. A picture of you is captured by the CCTV on an average of every 10 seconds once you walk out of a building in Seoul.
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i miss my home town laugh.gif
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post Oct 13 2016, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 12:34 AM)
I was there for two weeks recently. I arrived there a few days before the 10 days long China national holiday. There were so many PRC and Chinese written banners everywhere. Promoters were shouting in Mandarin. Street vendors in Myeongdong were shouting in Mandarin too. I was at one point confused if I was in Seoul or Beijing  biggrin.gif
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alot of places priority prc as their power spending is very high. you go touristy area especially myeongdong of cause la. unless you don't feel like prc to them, they won't call out to you or approach you in chinese hehe. did you notice that they won't bother or promote much to locals? tongue.gif although they like prc customers, but at their back they speaks bad about them whistling.gif
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post Oct 13 2016, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 01:05 AM)
Actually I stayed in Sindorim... Pretty far from Myeongdong. Orange cab ride cost me KRW18,000 - KRW20,000 each way. But of course since it is such a happening place I went there several times during my two weeks stay in Seoul  tongue.gif

Nobody really approached me though. But it was probably I showed a long face so no promoters will approach me. I avoided speaking Chinese as I do not want to be mistaken as PRC.

It was actually my 9th time going to Seoul. My last trip to Seoul prior to my recent trip was 23 months ago and I did notice some changes, not so good ones unfortunately. I noticed the locals are not so friendly and polite anymore, a stark contrast compared to my first ever trip to Seoul in year 2011. The place have also become dirtier (I do not know if the huge tourist arrival from China had anything to do with it).

And another thing I noticed is that many young PRC work for those street vendors in Myeongdong these days. Many of the Chinese speaking staff in major department stores and those cosmetic shops are actually PRC citizens too, not Korean. Just a few years ago, many Mandarin speaking staff are actually Korean. I suppose with the huge influx of tourist from Mainland China they couldn't get Korean to study Chinese fast enough so they resort to hire those PRC university students studying in Korea instead.
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uncountable trip to korea haha. never really track how many times. orange cab usually cost higher as it cater for tourist. sometimes eventhough you don't speak in chinese, they will approach and speak with you in chinese guessing from one outlook. that's what my friends encounter. some ahjumma is not friendly to them and have double standard tongue.gif once bring along my friend to a shop to purchase some accessories, we choose and pay the bill separately. my friend was told if she need a plastic bag, there will be an additional charge. when i pay the bill, the promoter provide me the plastic bag automatically without additional charges tongue.gif . i only realize after my friend told me outside the shop and she is so pissed off

yes true indeed. many prc working there. never think of korea is clean because they are the same like prc. older gens like to spit whistling.gif err.. we can't say that the locals is not friendly or polite.. is just that their culture is actually like this hehe.. so far no issue for me
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post Oct 13 2016, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 02:00 AM)
Still much cheaper to buy in Seoul though especially during the grand sale period and tax refund.

totally agree but our rm keep depreciated lately, also no use tongue.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 02:00 AM)
Not quite so. Orange cab is no longer considered as international taxi anymore and the flag down fare for the orange cab now is exactly the same as the silver cab which is KRW3,000. Eventually all silver cab will disappear from Seoul for good as they change the regular cab color to orange color.

oh really? been ages didn't flag down the cab.. last was 2 years back hehe.. i'm budget tourist, seldom take a cab tongue.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 02:00 AM)
Totally different scenario for us though. On our first two days there, 4 different Korean people approached us for directions. Not a first though. I've been approached for directions in Tokyo and Osaka too. I think that unless one has a very typical Korean face (normally squarish like Park Ji Sung), or a typical Japanese face, it will be hard to tell whether you are Japanese, Korean or Chinese as we're all East Asian.

perhaps you and your partner looks korean ehehe. i always been mistakenly thought that i am a japanese mix korean sweat.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 02:00 AM)
Anyway, when it was my turn, she asked if I need a bag and I said yes. I bought 3 pieces of sweaters so they are very bulky when folded. But she gave me a really small plastic bag. The guy before me bought only 2 shirts but she gave him a big plastic bag  shakehead.gif

shakehead.gif you should request a bigger bag instead. seldom will go to myeongdong unless my friends ask me to purchase something. can't stand the crowd though..

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 02:00 AM)
These days even at 5-star hotel like Sheraton Seoul D Cube at Sindorim-dong some staff are not friendly anymore. It was magical the last 8 times I stayed with them. That was the main reason I kept going back to the same hotel even though it is quite some distance away from places I like to hang out such as Myeongdong and Gangnam.

i prefer to stay in guesthouse as i feel their hotel price is overprice.. no money go for 5 star hotel ler haha. i rather use the money to spend on foods, cafe and shop rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 13 2016, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 13 2016, 09:09 AM)
Lol I remember when I wanted to ask directions at the airport and tried to speak some Korean the lady replied to me immediately with Mandarin. Hilarious.
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post Oct 13 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 13 2016, 01:43 PM)
IME, the moment you speak Korean and you have an accent, they will usually reply you in Mandarin. Happened to me long ago when I first went to Korea to work, especially since I was in Busan. I couldn't understand the dialect in Busan at all, so it was very awkward for me as I studied the language with Seoul dialect.
The only way I got over it was I kept speaking in Korean despite the difference in accent and my still poor vocabulary at that time, eventually people will just be like "oh whatever.. I'll just speak in Korean". That's the only way to  realistically improve in the language.

And I do agree that recently, many locals are starting to get a little more "unpolite". The youngster ones are kind of mix 50/50, many of them are like brainwashed to being "westernized" now a days. Then the middle-age ones, they're either very polite or they give zero F about who you are.
The older ones... don't need to say la. It's built into their blood to be as rude as possible because age = superiority in Korea.

But generally, it's really still not that bad. I mean compared to other Asian countries like China for example... lol, Koreans are like angels.
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haha.. this i agreed!! so are you base in busan now? so i guess now you can speak very fluent korean brows.gif but i feel locals in busan or other small places is better than seoul.
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post Oct 13 2016, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Oct 13 2016, 03:07 PM)
Having read up a fair bit in preparation for my travel, everyone says Busan is a lot better than Seoul.

I guess it would be like KL vs Kuantan.

Perhaps I could try and target an assignment in Korea hahahaha.....
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errr.. can't compare busan with kuantan leh.. so big gap laugh.gif compare it with pg or jb should be better. cause busan is the 2nd largest city after seoul
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post Oct 13 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 13 2016, 05:06 PM)
Naww.. I'm back in Malaysia now. Was working in Busan MBC for 1 and a half years back in 2010-2012. The first 4-5 months was so, so difficult! I could barely understand people and people couldn't understand me. Had to rely on friends from Seoul to actually "translate" the dialect lol! doh.gif

Won't say I'm very fluent la haha. Enough to go wherever and do mostly anything without much trouble. I only had issues when it comes to very official settings, but fortunately I wasn't involved in that most of the time.

Now a days just going back to S.Korea is just for leisure only. Language is no big deal. tongue.gif
If you ask me, Busan is more like JB in size. But people do say Busan is better is because it's somewhat less hectic there. Things are calmer in Busan, more laid back. People are also generally nicer there, you can see less stress in their faces. They're also not so worried about every single little thing about what's "right" and what's "wrong".

Going to Seoul is like going to a significantly better KL. That's how I see it and that's the general feeling. When I ask Koreans who has came to KL and stayed here for years, they always say that KL is like the older generation of Seoul, they're just a few years back on basically everything.
For them it's like traveling in time back to Seoul when they are in KL. I feel the same way when going to Seoul, it's like a KL that should already be as advanced and modernized as Seoul, but sadly isn't for whatever million reasons.
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not bad. at least experience different culture smile.gif got the chance to join mbc somemore. yeah dealing with their language is so difficult when someone like me who doesn't understand chinese. their sequence is almost similar. that's why those who learn chinese, can easily catch up way better. just like japanese language wink.gif

that's why some koreans, migrate to kl. yeah it would be kind of hard to be as advanced and modenized as seoul. even after 10 years or more we are still way behind haha

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post Oct 14 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 13 2016, 10:42 PM)
Still with some great savings with all the offers they had two weeks ago that lasted just 3 days (1-3 Oct). Tax refund was good too. Compared to The Face Shop, Nature Republic, Innisfree in Malaysia, it is still a lot cheaper to buy in Korea even with the unfavorable Ringgit to Won exchange rate.
The crowd is what I like most about Myeongdong. And Gangnam... I normally schedule my visit to Gangnam either on Friday or Saturday evening just because of the crowd. I like huge crowd so nobody really notices us  biggrin.gif 
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yeah at least better then in msia plus they have more varieties. not that i dislike crowds just that i don't prefer prc crowds tongue.gif but if compare to hongdae, hongdae more madness. usually i go to gangnam area to chill out or shops brows.gif

QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 13 2016, 11:20 PM)
yvonnesoo I still struggle to decide which place I should pick for 7nights in Seoul...
Any intro on guesthouse or hotel?
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no need struggle la.. choose the location you prefer then only choose the guesthouse or hotel. hard to intro as i'm not sure what you need.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 13 2016, 11:57 PM)
Yeah, totally enjoyed my time in MBC even though it was difficult. Well if there's ONE thing that KL does beat Seoul in is probably the shopping malls. I mean, IMO we have Pavillion, KLCC, Paradigm, the whole Star Hill thing... yeah COEX, D-Cube, Lotte, Times Square... yeah they're there but really not as well done as our super shopping malls.

I asked Seoul-borned Koreans and they feel the same way. Not that they can't shop for anything they ever wanted though of course.Oh yeah! LOOOVE the way they do tax refund in Seoul now a days. Most places offers instant tax refund now, don't need to line up like a fool in the airport anymore.

Haha had many young ones try to speak konglish to me. Hilarious but at least they try.
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no doubts in term of the size of the malls, malaysia considered quite huge.. yes tax refund now more easier now. even can done by ourselves at the kiosk at the airport if one forget to do it at downtown.

younger gens too influence by the US counterpart. many dream of going there and trying hard to learn english if possible. but for them when come to learn english language, it seems like they face more difficulty compare to when they learn chinese or japanese. many of my korean friends say so. i guess is because of the sequences. just like me feel so so difficult to learn hangul in the beginning laugh.gif

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