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 MotoGP 2023 v2, Let's Race!!!

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post Sep 10 2018, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 10 2018, 12:44 AM)
Benchmark shall be Ducati, as Honda bike not good either. Vinales still ahead of Pedrosa proved that...
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Sep 10 2018, 07:19 AM)
Yamaha has been so pathetic for few seasons now, notably since JL left. VR also getting complacent.
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I know they weren't competitive enough to be at the front but this race looks really bad, they weren't even overtaking or getting close to anyone. In past races they were maybe stronger at the start, the middle or the end of the race but this race they were at the same pace throughout, very monotonous.
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post Sep 12 2018, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 12 2018, 02:48 PM)
a case of race bullying where the victim exploded and doing the wrong things...

a bit pity for him because he needs to handle his anger or sit in anger management therapy...

he have been retaliate too many times in wrong way..hence his bad reputation...

what a waste of a talent....
i bet if he race in motogp class with vr46, things wont be going really good....  brows.gif
this is my verdict of what actually happened in yamaha camp...
starting in circa 2015...great bike...good package all around...

then came standard ecu regulation...their engineer struggle to make the ecu works the way it used before during the year of them running own ecu...

some key issue:
1-traction control strategy
2-power output strategy

because the standard ecu utilize another sensor box to collect data and calculate those parameter...its affecting everything from corner speed, tyre life and grip control throughout the race...

*apparently the sensor box data can be manipulated by manufacturer to give out better performance when combined/programmed in unison with other bike control parameter...
then..came new michelin tyre construction design change that makes every old data they've worked before thrown out of the window..useless...cant be compared at all (or technically not really usable for them).....
to make it worst...their cross-plane engine design makes them harder to develop reliable tyre life...that engine makes so much torque at low rpm and eating tyre like cookie monster munching cookies..... thats another bummer that even if they can spy other manufacturer was doing..it cant be applied to their bike simply due to engine design...

(other manufacturer use inline 4 with normal crankshaft plane like suzuki or v4 configuration like ducati,honda aprillia which is quite similar and makes ecu tweak easier across all manufacturer like tips & trick given by MagMar is straight can be applied to them...but yammy is alone on this due to cross-plane engine)
and they can keep swapping chassis, swapping swing arm, changing bike geometry and literally overhaul the bike design....BUT they wont able to gather everything properly

1-engine development freeze for entire season (need to solve in winter testing period only)
2-until the able to hire proper magneti marelli ecu guy that fully understand and able to fully utilize the ecu (or tweak the ecu logic) to their advantage....

until those 2 things happens, we can only hope those yammy guy doing their best fighting mid pack...
note:
1-MagMar ecu is standard ecu in ducati since beginning... no problem for them...

2-Honda used to struggle like yammy back then....during the ecu switch....but they able to hire the correct guy doing the ecu...doing quite ok-ish...still it doesnt work really well with previous michelin tyre.... later when michelin switch to different tyre design***...bam..straight they were competitive again
          ***the switch is made to favour ducati in the first place...but helped honda by quite a lot  (similar design to bridgestone..so they back on track faster with so much data gathered before is usable once again)
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True.

Romano Fenati was sacked from VR46 Academy halfway thru his Moto3 season for some unknown reason even though he was performing on-track. I guess it must have been attitude issues. He got a second chance and blew it. Goodbye to his career. MV Agusta dropped him for next year.

Yamaha didn't work on their ECU mapping when the change took place, so they were effectively behind on that, they were concentrating on chassis, balance, engine. They just got the new ECU guy onboard and got Folger to be their European test rider. Also Mobidelli will be using same spec bikes as the factory guys. Hopefully they can catch up. Also their previous test riders were not/never Grand Prix riders so they have no racing experience with the GP bikes except for a handful of wildcard rides whereas Honda had the likes of Stefan Bradl and Ducati had Michelle Pirro to name a few. Honda and Ducati also had their "B" teams testing for them with current factory spec bikes with Crutchlow and Petrucci. Yamaha does not have current bikes on the grid except for the Factory riders.

Early next year Yamaha will still be playing catch up but I predict by mid-season next year they will be more competitive if not ahead.
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post Sep 12 2018, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(jaykay4540 @ Sep 12 2018, 03:11 PM)
CRUTCHLOW> all
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This year Crutchlow has crashed less sweat.gif
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post Sep 12 2018, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 12 2018, 03:29 PM)
im wondering why only yamaha didnt employ satellite team as part of their factory effort to reduce the time needed for R&D look at honda and ducati now..as well as next year ktm doing full factory effort even on satellite team..
hush saying that 1 person want to keep the data all by himself dont want team mates or outside team studying his data...
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At one time they had the best bike on the grid. The deal with satellite teams involved money, they charged pretty high for current bikes that tech3 couldn't afford it. They were overly confident with their bikes that they forgot other teams went aggressive with R & D and were left behind. Only now they realize the areas they needed to improve. Regarding the data, it was revealed that there was a physical wall around but data was shared with the engineers at Iwata factory so not much difference with data secrecy.
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post Sep 13 2018, 12:05 PM

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At least we won't be seeing the 'halo' on a MotoGP bike(but never say never laugh.gif )
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post Sep 13 2018, 12:14 PM

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By the way there used to be a sidecar category in MotoGP or was it Superbike. I wish they would bring that back.

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post Sep 13 2018, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 13 2018, 12:18 PM)
thats british superbike if not mistaken...
nice race to watch....
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I definitely remember it during motogp races. Then in SBK.
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post Sep 13 2018, 12:37 PM

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post Sep 17 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 17 2018, 08:35 AM)
Yo

How is british superbike?

How about AMA superbike?

Late Nicky Hayden used 2 ride AMA before jumping motogp.

BEin-sports now showing AMA.

Dont know if i should watch it. Hahahaha.
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BSB has some MotoGP rejects like Leon Haslam, Shane Byrne, not really exciting to me.

AMA slightly more exciting. Toni Elias is the only MotoGP reject there and he won the Championship last year. The races are quite close.
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post Sep 26 2018, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 24 2018, 06:11 PM)
Hmm judging by how far they're from the Honda & Duc, I think I doubt it. Both Honda & Duc are about 10 secs faster for the whole Aragon race distance compared to their 2017 time, while VR was only 1 sec faster and finished about 15 secs adrift. Maybe the first half of the race they might be closer but on the 2nd half they might already burnt their tires due to sliding too much and drop back.
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Yamaha has improved but other manufacturers improved a lot more.

QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 26 2018, 12:11 PM)
morbideli is on honda machine...if not mistaken also quite updated machine compared to tech3 yamaha which is 1.5 or 2 version older than factory yamaha
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Naturally if factory team makes improvements, satellite teams will get some of the parts/solutions after a few races.
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post Oct 2 2018, 02:28 PM

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Ana Carrasco, 1st female World Champion(World Supersport 300)
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post Oct 2 2018, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Oct 2 2018, 02:55 PM)
Got video? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway last motogp chick was katja ponsgen back in 2001.
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Ana Carrasco was in Moto3 a few years back. But usually back of the grid.



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post Oct 6 2018, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(RalphRatedR @ Oct 6 2018, 03:56 PM)
Rossi only 0.011 sec behind Marquez.... new tyre effect? Good to see both factory yamahas starting quite high (side note - Vinales P4).
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Hope the Yamahas have a good race tomorrow.
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post Oct 6 2018, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Oct 6 2018, 04:39 PM)
JL not joining though... speedy recovery for him.
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No chance to duel with MM this round. He still blames MM though.
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post Oct 8 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(BuncitPesonawan @ Oct 8 2018, 09:00 AM)
our boy HS improved very well. proud of him, never give up attitude rclxms.gif
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Good track for all Yamahas, I was excited when I saw HS climbed all the way from 20th
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post Oct 8 2018, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Oct 8 2018, 05:42 PM)
You all speak as though he just won the race laugh.gif laugh.gif
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After many rounds of slump it would feel like winning, or at least confidence booster just like MV and VR.
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post Oct 8 2018, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Oct 8 2018, 06:27 PM)
Yeah..

yamaha and special michelin tyre sure looks like a good match for this track....  brows.gif
cant wait to see next year on ktm machine
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I hope the KTM is more adaptive to new riders as well as more competitive. I noticed his dip coincide with Sepang Racing Team announcement. Did he regret and felt down for signing so quick with KTM? Maybe just coincidence, I dunno lol.
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post Oct 8 2018, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Oct 8 2018, 09:32 PM)
nope..its actually previous track didnt favour yamaha...see all other yamaha fellow..trend is falling in several track ago...
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Dunno why this track good for Yamaha, hope it's the same or better in Sepang.
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 9 2018, 05:37 PM)
Ya must be the new Michelin tires that gave Yamaha some boost in performance. I hope this continues so Yamaha boys can return to fight for wins again. We need them to be able to fight with Honda & Duc for next year or else championship will get boring again.
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Tyres just for Buriram, other tracks return to normal ones, unless there's a request from the team and riders in the name of 'safety'.
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post Oct 10 2018, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 10 2018, 11:24 AM)
Since new tyres gave Yamaha more grip and solved their problem, how come Honda and Ducati not benefited from it? It was strange MM and Dovi didn't open up the gap to Yamaha.
I thought all riders will gets benefit, the already fast MM and Dovi will feel more confidence with more grip and pushed faster..
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Tyres don't work the same for all bikes. Aleix Espargaro chose the soft rear option because he feels it works better with the bike.

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