Hi MrFarmer,

that's exactly the problem. i am from west malaysia. thinking of getting a valuer to value the land. from google map, cant really figure out where is the place as well.

would you say that it is very ulu?

bro,

is there a particular reason you want to head to east malaysia to get land ?

hi bro,

no particular reason. just thought that maybe at 20k per acre (can nego somo), it will be a good deal. difficult to get cheap land nowadays in west malaysia and small parcels of land in sabah.

just do not want to miss out on an oppurtunity.

if price is an issue why not rent land...its a much cheaper alternative and more failproof incase the venture didnt work out.

though you are getting cheaper land but how about market accessibility??? what products are you aiming to produce ?

location is very important....ask MrFarmer

Hi Para, leaning towards rubber. LGM has agreed to do all the planting for a certain fee.

Location - exactly my concerns. can't seem to pin point for sure where it is on google map. if it is kg kelawat, it should be ok. need to get more information on this.

just had tea with my friend last night. he says he is willing to let it go at 15k per acre for me. does it sound too good to be true?

I know of lands in sabah going for only 5k per acre but need size wise at least 500 - 1000 acres.

price is subjective bro. you got to walk around the land and see the advantages and disadvantages for yourself rather than relying on your friend.

how big is the land ?

jason:

Not sure if you've read this yet:
http://investkk.com/information-on-land-title/

Information on Turan:
http://www.townplanning.sabah.gov.my/iczm/...uaran/desc.html


As for information on Kg. Kelawat (for other readers):
http://kinabalu-home.blogspot.com/2012/02/...kg-kelawat.html

From what I understand, Kg. Kelawat is hilly/mountainous and has a cold climate (by comparison). But as you mentioned that it only states "Mukim Kelawat" on the title, please do your due dilligence with the local land office. As you would be able to check on the link I gave earlier, it is a very big zone. I would suggest you get a hold of a detailed map from the Sabah State Government (should cost about RM150)

Also, please do note that there's only 50 more years on the land title. Most banks are reluctant to loan money for purchase of 60-year CLs, so do the math on the property. If you have cash, great; but if you need to get a loan, you will need to consider this factor. You could get extension from the land office. Also, do note that most banks are very resistant to loaning money for properties costing more than RM250,000 these days (this is information I got from bank officers and insiders, real estate industry persons etc.), unless you have significant collateral, or if you know people in the banking industry. More so if it is agriculture land, or leasehold property. This land is both.

As for cultivation purposes, it is not just having a matter of having a road. You need to question about where your market will be, the logistics of getting your produce there, and what kind of prices that will be paid etc.. Eg. if you're cultivating rubber, would the production of rubber on the land cover your costs of cultivation, transportation, and other misc. costs? You need to factor these things in as well. This is in addition to the usual agriculture questions, eg. is the land suitable for tree crop, or horticulture? Water accessibility? Historical land use? etc. I can't vouche for Kg. Kelawat as I'm not familiar with the place, but from the GIS mapping, most of the areas closer to the minor towns seem suited for agriculture activities.

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Added on April 24, 2012, 12:01 pmPara:

I think Jason already mention, 21.45 acres.

This post has been edited by Michael J.: Apr 24 2012, 12:04 PM

Thanks for the input Michael J.

Financing the purchase should not be a problem.

I think it would be safe to say that the main thing i should do now is to fly over and have a look at the land before buying or to get a valuer to value the land.

actually, the main purpose of me wanting to buy the land is for investment rather than for agri. if it can give me returns, i will plant. otherwise, i just prefer owning land than having cash.

yes, it is 21.45 acres. and Mr Farmer, thank you for all the links!

thanks MichaelJ., missed the details there.

jason : having a first hand look is the most important like i said earlier....you need to have a feel of the land.

the view at kelawat eco farm.

Para, thanks. Will see what i can do.

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Added on April 24, 2012, 3:32 pmWah,, kissan, you familiar with that place? looks nice eh. abit hilly though.

Seems like the weather will be cool.



This post has been edited by jason1986: Apr 24 2012, 03:32 PM

Yup bro all Berangan...tissue cultured.

the age ranges from 4 months to 2 months

nope i am NOT using drip irrigation but sprinkler as the banana is a supplement crop while my main is the jackfruit

thanks for helping me out on the PM...appreciate it.


jason : it could be mini-cameron highlands

Hi Kissan, this is Kundasang. This is the junction to turn into the Desa Diary Farm. Just went there on March.

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Added on April 24, 2012, 8:03 pmThe co-ordinate for Kg Kelawat is approximately 6.1120508N 116.3693338E
It's between 700~800M above sea level.

Your friend has also put up at advert for the said land. For the special price you mentioned, off hand I would say it could be worthwhile to check it out.

Maybe I can plant on your land, if you decide to buy

If you are flying in to check the land and if you need company, just PM me. Shall be here till mid June.

This post has been edited by MrFarmer: Apr 24 2012, 08:03 PM

@jason: Not familiar.Haha

@MrFarmer: Ohh my mistake.I grabbed this pic from people's fb. He write kelawat eco farm.

Rubber latex is still at high price these past 2 years.

Hi Mr Farmer,

i'm seriously thinking of going over to view the land. apparently he has got some interested buyers even at 18k per acre.

hmmm... decisions decisions.

thanks for the kind gesture. will keep you posted.

Guys, i've google map the place. there is two kg kelawat on the map. one by A1 one by A4. which one issit a? must be someone tag it wrongly.



This post has been edited by jason1986: Apr 25 2012, 05:13 PM

bro just a friendly reminder. NEVER rush into buying a land just because there is another interested buyer. you ALWAYS have to see it first hand.

or your decision can force you to overpay when you can get it cheaper...

Hi bro Para, thanks for the heads up. Will do my due dilligence.

A4.

Remember take some photos and share with us. Good luck with your new adventure.

thanks kissan. Will keep you guys posted.

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