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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V41, BPL - Man City 1 - 3 Chelsea

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post Sep 18 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 18 2016, 09:46 PM)
biggest mystery in cfc history is selling kdb
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Easy to figure it out, Mou doesn't like him

QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 18 2016, 09:48 PM)
rooney = oscar. undroppable even if they offer nothing to the team.
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Rooney = Iva

QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 18 2016, 09:50 PM)
Pogba is good but he is not 85m good.

Pogba is overrated at Juventus because of how good they are collectively. At Juve he had Vidal (one of the best midfielders of this generation) and Marchisio (one of the most underrated midfielders of this generation) alongside him. Behind him he had some of the best defenders in the world to cover up his defensive liabilities.
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You got the point
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:09 AM

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Pogba is nothing without Pirlo , Vidal , Marchisio.

oke back to main topic.
we lose to Liverpool. something lacks.
not passion. its more like... chemistry?

lol~
post Sep 19 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Sep 19 2016, 10:09 AM)
Pogba is nothing without Pirlo , Vidal , Marchisio.

oke back to main topic.
we lose to Liverpool. something lacks.
not passion. its more like... chemistry?
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if we lack all of that, we already lose/draw the 1st 3 game.but we show good performance right? so its not due to chemistry, we lacking creativity. the missing link between midfield and the striker. last 3 game we depend on hazard (mainly) and oscar too provide good ball (seldom) but vs liverpool, hazard tightly mark and oscar mia. so no one provide ball to costa.we need 1 2 more player who can ease hazard burden. that is what oscar and willian suppose to do but both mia. I know defense is the main concern right now but without proper balance we too can score any goal. maybe against lower team we can but top 10 will be harder. i hope alonso buckle up fast and speedy recovery for zouma.
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Sep 19 2016, 10:09 AM)
Pogba is nothing without Pirlo , Vidal , Marchisio.

oke back to main topic.
we lose to Liverpool. something lacks.
not passion. its more like... chemistry?
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concentration lapse... strong bomoh used by iva to tackle all the bosses... hopefully alonso will play the next game...
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Sep 19 2016, 10:15 AM)
if we lack all of that, we already lose/draw the 1st 3 game.but we show good performance right? so its not due to chemistry, we lacking creativity. the missing link between midfield and the striker. last 3 game we depend on hazard (mainly) and oscar too provide good ball (seldom) but vs liverpool, hazard tightly mark and oscar mia. so no one provide ball to costa.we need 1 2 more player who can ease hazard burden. that is what oscar and willian suppose to do but both mia. I know defense is the main concern right now but without proper balance we too can score any goal. maybe against lower team we can but top 10 will be harder. i hope alonso buckle up fast and speedy recovery for zouma.
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oscar is like chipmore.
on off type. last match vs Liverpool, he kejap ada kejap mia.
cant blame him. kena guard and lock.
Hazard also try his best. can see how frust him when try shoot but kena block.
meanwhile William... this shit.. cross fail , dribling fail.. i dunno whats the reason he stay till second half.
put pedro is better but still.. almost same. sweat.gif sweat.gif


QUOTE(SlomoX @ Sep 19 2016, 10:16 AM)
concentration lapse... strong bomoh used by iva to tackle all the bosses... hopefully alonso will play the next game...
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Alonso? yeah. never see his play.
DLuiz doing good for his 1st game. even lose.
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Sep 19 2016, 10:25 AM)
oscar is like chipmore.
on off type. last match vs Liverpool, he kejap ada kejap mia.
cant blame him. kena guard and lock.
Hazard also try his best. can see how frust him when try shoot but kena block.
meanwhile William... this shit.. cross fail , dribling fail.. i dunno whats the reason he stay till second half.
put pedro is better but still.. almost same.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Alonso? yeah. never see his play.
DLuiz doing good for his 1st game. even lose.
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last time when our glory year 2015 also he mia a lot. that time our back is solid as rock. willian last season 1st half ok. then ko back. i want moses to replace willian and see how. since this year is our rebuilding year, we need to test all out
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Sep 19 2016, 10:31 AM)
last time when our glory year 2015 also he mia a lot. that time our back is solid as rock.  willian last season 1st half ok. then ko back. i want moses to replace willian and see how. since this year is our rebuilding year, we need to test all out
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ah yeah. Moses doing good too. flex.gif flex.gif
waiting Zouma back in action.
our back now mcm papan only.
cry.gif cry.gif
lol~
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Sep 19 2016, 10:32 AM)
ah yeah. Moses doing good too.  flex.gif  flex.gif
waiting Zouma back in action.
our back now mcm papan only.
cry.gif  cry.gif
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yup. but watching luiz play vs liverpool, saw him a bit mature now. hope can maintain like that. luiz + zouma would be good.

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good discussion for the game against liverpool.

for me we are still in the right track, a few hiccup here and there nothing major. for the first goal there was a clear lacking of collective marking and concentration.

second goal was pure class, nothing else.

cesc and batsman deserved more.

we need to bounce back asap.


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post Sep 19 2016, 12:27 PM

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back four is fragile now. same as last year. Luiz? Ivanovic? Where's our new singing LB?

luckily Costa is in good form now. hopefully he can remain the form he is showing now.

this year target TOP 4. ManC is too far away too good to catch up, although is still 33 games to go.


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post Sep 19 2016, 01:02 PM

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for me, vs liverpool reveal both defend and attack departments have problems

defend:
-fragile, JT, Iva & Cahill above 30yo and very slow, always outrun by opponents
-hardly defend against set pieces anymore, poor & headless chicken clearance
-no leader at defend line to organize the defenders after JT injured
-gk's performance is dropping season by season

attack:
-lack creativity due to back 4
-rely on individual aka hazard & costa too much
-running cr8 space, but our no ball running is sux, usually stand there and waiting for ball
-wingers' crossings were pathetic

on David Luiz:
-more mature
-3 shots vs liverpool, the most shots in our team, it shows liverpool limited our attackers very well, which bring to my question, should D. Luiz do his work as Cb, stay at back or remain his offensive mind?

open for discussion
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post Sep 19 2016, 01:30 PM

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as for Luiz, I think he should take Cahill place along side JT..and slowly working towards Luiz-Zouma combo..

He inherited the never say die attitude from the old guards..not many players in the current squad that still have that kind of attitude, his passing also push the urgency to move the ball forward.
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post Sep 19 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Sep 19 2016, 10:25 AM)

Alonso? yeah. never see his play.
DLuiz doing good for his 1st game. even lose.
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since defense is shite now just throw in the wild card. at least we know how good this alonso guy who can play anywhere in the back 4.

since we are at it, its time to test the 5-3-2, who knows it works?
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QUOTE(SlomoX @ Sep 19 2016, 03:27 PM)
since defense is shite now just throw in the wild card. at least we know how good this alonso guy who can play anywhere in the back 4.

since we are at it, its time to test the 5-3-2, who knows it works?
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yap azpi and alonso as WB.
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post Sep 19 2016, 05:56 PM

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Conte prefers passing, defending and the important thing is work rate. Little creativity is needed. Thats why he prefer matic over fabregas.
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if only KDB never leave chelsea.....sad.gif

really hope he score against MU.........and he did.......total slap 2 to that stupid MOU face for selling him..........better than oscar and on par with hazard IMO........

sometimes jose decisions before this confused me........

selling robben for example........a bit injury prone but no one can deny how lethal he is to this day.......easily only behind CR7 & Messi during his prime.....

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post Sep 20 2016, 03:07 AM

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being a Juve fan and I kinda support Chelsea in PL. I would love to see a 3 man def (this could be tricky, zouma, luiz and Cahill? Could be a make or break)

Azpi/Pedro and Willian/Moses on the both wings, Fab as a role similar to regista (Pirlo?), Matic and Kante in the mid, I would love to see Hazard behind Costa

But Conte knows the best
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Sep 20 2016, 04:07 AM)
being a Juve fan and I kinda support Chelsea in PL. I would love to see a 3 man def (this could be tricky, zouma, luiz and Cahill? Could be a make or break)

Azpi/Pedro and Willian/Moses on the both wings, Fab as a role similar to regista (Pirlo?), Matic and Kante in the mid, I would love to see Hazard behind Costa

But Conte knows the best
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Last season when all defender is fit, zouma is even ahead of cahill as a starter and i would love to see that again
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:37 AM

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when hes fit anyway? seems like forever
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