I think you have misinterpreted what I have said. I was saying that if you don't need to use 3G, then better save the money to get a normal phone. It's that simple. What's there gotta do with my parents? Use 3G only mah, the charges ain't that expensive if compared to the price you're paying for your K800i. Come on, lets be realistic, Maxis or Celcom ain't forcing ya to use 3G, if you feel that it's expensive, then don't use lor but seriously, as a new user of K800i, you should try every each and every function of your phone, you wouldn't know if it's working or faulty unless you try them all. Anyway, for making a video calls, just use your free bluetooth headset, PV-705 which comes free with every K800i (Midland set) till end of this month, that's what I call utilizing our resources.


Well, Maxis is expanding the 3G coverage and Astro transmission quality by this year. I'm not sure about Celcom though but my friend from Maxis told me that they're trying to achieve 50% coverage for 3G by end of this year. I guess we'll get more free video calls when 3G is introduced to other states as they'll be having more roadshows this year which is an added plus for us.


I'm not sure about that I've made a comparison, SE K800i vs Nokia N73, the video calls on the N73 were slightly sharper and the colours were more vivid. Well, my friend made a video call from his N73 so we sorta compared the quality with our phones put side by side. Anyway, all 3G phones are using VGA camera so it will be a while before we get something like a 1.3 megapixel camera for video calls, probably that's under the 3.5G specs.

I'm just curious lor, why can't the 3G be left untouched, I mean it's faster to send a MMS, download a game or two, surf the net, etc with 3G isn't it? Besides, there are no additional charges for this, it will be the same rates like GPRS since we're not talking about video calls or any value added 3G services. Battery life is not that bad, my 3G is on everyday but the bluetooth is switched off as I only use the bluetooth headset when I'm driving. It's a hassle to carry the bluetooth headset with me, it's like carrying a hearing aid. It's freaking big and bulky.


I guess the K800i flash is not powerful enough for a landscape shot especially when it was shot at night, the flash will not reach even 5 metres so it's possible to take a picture that far with a clear shot. Not an issue with my Canon G7 though but it's not a fair comparison but for close up portrait shots, the flash is good enough even at night.

Well, it's either they put in the wrong box by mistake, happened to me before but the shop was reluctant to get the right box for me, they said that small matter only, why make a big fuss. Secondly, AP sets arrive in Malaysia without boxes because a LYN member selling handphones here (no mention of name here) told me that if I want AP, I need to wait because Comsat only has the phone but without the box so clearly, they're buying the boxes from somewhere. I think it's not much of an issue unless you sell it here second hand, then, you'll get 101 questions from the respective buyers interested in your set because all types of questions will pop out when you wanna sell something second hand here especially a handphone. Sometimes, it's easier to trade it in directly to the shop.

[quote=vikingw2k,Jan 19 2007, 12:23 AM]
[QUOTE]3. Is that an issue if the box IMEI doesn't match with the set's IMEI
[/QUOTE]

Well, of course, it is an issue especially if it was a Midland set, AP ones I have nothing to say, most of the time, the phone's IMEI doesn't match with the box. Put it this way, will you buy a second hand car if the engine's registration number is different from the insurance policy? What happens if say Alienfighter decided to sell the phone one day in LYN and the buyer asks him why the phone's IMEI is different from the box? How do you expect him to answer? I dunno? Later the buyer go and complain or accuse him that it's a recond or stolen phone, then what happens to Alienfighter? Awarded with a dispute tag? You're a seller yourself, if a buyer complains the same thing to you, will you tell him that it's a small matter, why make a big fuss, do you think the buyer will accept this reasoning? I guess you should know the answers. As a seller, it is important to take care of the buyer whether it is for a few ringgit or for a few thousand. Just my advice.


[quote=Everdying,Jan 19 2007, 12:28 AM]
[QUOTE]yes it is an issue if the IMEI on the set doesnt match with the box.

for SE it may not be obvious.
but for other authorised sets like Nokia...
the box has 3 stickers, 2 of which must be peeled and put on the warranty card for customer and manufacturer copy.
those stickers obviously have the IMEI number on it.

for SE, when receipts are written for authorised sets.
the only place the IMEI number is mentioned is...yea on the box.[/QUOTE]
Precisely, you're absolutely correct on this matter.


[quote=Naka7a,Jan 19 2007, 12:45 AM]
[QUOTE]yea. we should all move on. i got not enough stars to make a difference. sorry alienfighter. hope you can get your satisfying answer from her soon[/QUOTE]
You don't need stars, ranking or a moderator tag to speak up, everyone is equal here, feel free to speak up. If it's the truth or the obvious fact, we'll back you up.


[quote=alienfighter,Jan 19 2007, 01:13 AM]
[QUOTE]btw, this also in k800i discussion thread, so that new users can have a guidence before they buy this phone...[/QUOTE]
Alienfighter, I have posted the battery thingy in the trades and disputes thread here, http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...=60&p=10059990& and maybe you can mention your phone's IMEI doesn't match the box and other related problems in that thread.


[quote=annielee,Jan 19 2007, 01:37 AM]
[QUOTE]if we've bought a midland set, n the shop gave us an AP battery, can we go back and ask them to change to original battery...[/QUOTE]
I think very unlikely that they will change it for you even if you report it to KPDN because they can say that you switched the battery mah. They can accuse you with all sorts of nonsense so it's better to check everything carefully on the spot before paying. Just my 2 cents.


[quote=Everdying,Jan 19 2007, 03:27 AM]
[QUOTE]well, i'm sure out there somewhere there are some decent AP guys who dont replace the headset and battery with imitations [/QUOTE]
There are some honest people out there but I guess it's pretty rare these days so it depends on luck sometimes.

This post has been edited by sunauto: Jan 19 2007, 11:15 AM

It has been all the while for Midland ori batteries to use the square sticker, not the rectangle one. By the way, where did you buy your handphone?

You expect me to buy a Midland battery at RM168 to show you? Just head over to the BST-37 thread and check out those pictures. Anyway, how do you know the phone shop is reliable, there are many shops in KL pushing fakes as originals, even original PSP batteries were swapped with fake ones when the buyer is not aware of it. It's best to be careful sometimes.

Girls use SE K618i red colour one lah, guys use SE K800i, God is always fair to us. No gender discrimination here.

You can get it from Transcend_2000, the 512mb version is around RM130 or maybe cheaper. You can PM him, a reliable seller, I bought my 1GB from him and yes, it's 100% genuine, I have checked it online. As for AP price, RM1215 is okaylah, acceptable but you must check everything carefully especially the battery as some AP sets come with fake batteries so you must be aware of this.

If your K800i a Midland or AP set? If it's Midland, can you tell us whether your battery is the same as Alienfighter? Thanks!

Yeah, you're absolutely right, those Tulen stickers can be duplicated, even those pirate cds from China has it. Well having a Midland sticker doesn't mean it's ori either because the sticker can be a fake or an inside job too. I'm trying to ask all members to share their pics of their ori battery so that we can compare here.

Anyway, one thing for sure, I've posted pictures of my BST-37 battery (from my mother's K610i) under the trade dispute helpdesk thread, also bought from Clareen this month before she went on her business trip in Japan, it's neither a Midland or AP battery either, you can see for yourself here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/396662/+60 This one definitely take boleh lari one because it's 100% fake (you check the photos there and you'll know what I mean) but the BST-33 battery is still debateable but it's still not right for her or her supplier to give me a fake battery because AP here doesn't mean it's a fake, it just mean an ori set distributed by other parallel importers, right? Hai ........

Errr...... Made In China but Assembled In Sweden???
My original BST-15 battery for my P900i stated Made In Japan but Assembled in Sweden, that's an ori battery, 100% confirmed.

The ori battery is also made in China for your info, we're not saying it's a fake because it's made in China. We have experts here who can detectl ori, AP and fake batteries so don't play play.


Sounds like you're giving us a teka-teki test here. I guess who gets the right answer can immediately report for duty in KPDN HQ on Monday. They certainly need someone to sniff out fake batteries sold in Malaysia.

How about this BST-33, made in Japan, finished in Japan? Ori, AP or fake? Sorry, no prize given for the correct answer.

Okay, for my case, Ori = Midland, if I'm buying a Midland set but given an AP battery, even though it's original but I can't accept it as I want everything to be in the package as it is.

Since there are no debates on my BST-37 battery that I have mentioned in my thread here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/396662/+60 so I can just assume that it's a fake.

S/N: 072609PTLDLV 06W43

Errr ..... why leh? Wanna buy 4D for tomorrow, ar?

Midland is the only distributor for SE K800i, you can check from their website so we have narrowed down to one distributor here for ori set.

Yeah, this is Sui Teng's BST-33 S/N no: 103549PTLDLV 06W43 and she bought her K800i from Clareen, Midland set too.

Well, the serial numbers don't mean a thing, it can be randomly generated and passed as fakes too or the serial numbers are only assigned to AP models (from other countries outside Malaysia). The other BST-33 battery I posted here was from Denmark, made in Japan, finished in Japan, again the serial number is different.

My sister told me one thing, just weigh the battery lah, the ori battery is always lighter than the fake ones and all ori batteries have the same weight. She has experience in this for Nokia phones but I'm not sure for SE lah. Maybe you guys wanna try this experiment?

Sui Teng,

Can you check your phone's IMEI number and see if it matches the IMEI number printed on the box. Midland set should have everything 100% matched. Do let me know ya. Thanks!

Refurbished battery is possible but it's not acceptable, why a brand new phone with a refurbished battery? Do you know refurbished products are cheaper? Like PS2 and PSP, refurbished ones are significantly cheaper.

Mine is exactly the same, just wanted to ask Sui Teng to check her set. Who knows, maybe she's having Alienfighter's box leh, mistaken identity.

The camera is decent enough and if you're a blogger, highly recommended to get one, just point and shoot. Very handy and useful.

First of all, switch on your phone's bluetooth and make sure it's on. Next, press and hold the power button on your headset (the silver colour button) for a few seconds, it will flash red and green, your phone will be able to detect it within a few seconds, after that, enter '0000' and that's it. As simple as ABC. You're pressing the wrong button, not the '+' or '-' volume buttons. You should read the manual first. All the info is there but in future, you have no problems with SE phones as once you're familiar with the menus and everything, your future SE will be a piece of cake to you. If you still have any problems, please feel free to post here but of course, read the manual first lah, they have included it for a purpose.


Lousy music playback? Bro, what do you expect? It ain't an iPod or even an audiophile mp3 player with Grado headphones lah. Come on, it's only a thousand plus, it can't do miracles. Your phone sounded more like a recond set ler, we don't have anything wrong with our phone and it doesn't turn off at all without a reason. If the shop cheated you with a recond set (some AP models might be a recond set), dun lah put the blame at SE for this. Investigate first before you start cursing around.