Dude , are you in your own contained universe or are you even reading what i wrote? These HD-DVD folks who refuses to buy these new HD-DVD releases just because they are on combos! The rest uses the flipper excuse because they claimed that to see the extras , you need to flip over to the SD side. I certainly did not claim this, the folks at THAT thread does! Read first before proclaiming anything.

For someone who is supposed to be calm and rational as you claimed to be, you certainly FLIP OUT at the smallest instances or comments that you would perceive damaging to your precious HD-DVD. I was quoting the thread content here, not spreading FUD or belittling anything. Just that for whatever rationalizing you claim these HD-DVD people are, it seems that they arent that rational at all, when they refuses to buy HD-DVDs just because they are on combo discs and because they had to flip to the SD side to watch the extras. Now these arent my own words, these are the words of those folks at the said thread there, so dont kill the messenger. Dont get emotionally attached to your favourite format too either.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 6 2007, 02:27 PM

and which titles would that be? titles with more feature in the standard version. whoohuuuuuu .. would be nice to check that one out

here we go again

what's the fuss about flipping the disc?
flipping has been around since the cassette era, side A, side B
then came the LD era, either you flip it or change to disc B, unless your player has a auto reverse function.

Same with DVD era, LOTR EE, anyone? 2 bloody disc for the movie, and 2 more bloody disc for the features! My Seven Samurai disk is a D10, so I'll have to flip it the middle of the movie. It's nice to take a short break to refill your drink/snacks, take a pee, hump someone, masturbate and etc...
I doubt anyone would want to sit on their sofa continuously for more than 3 hours no matter how comfortable is it.

I'll say flipper has nothing to do with BD or HD-DVD format... yeah... some might say, Hey!! format X has bigger storage, thus it can squeeze in all of the goodies in one disc!! So no flipping needed!!
I'll say screw those people who is lazy arse to find an excuse not to lift their fat ass from the sofa.
2 discs, 4 discs, 2-sided doesn't matter to me, as long as the studio gives me a good quality movie with all the goodies, I don't mind getting up to swap disc or flip disc.
Hey, who knows? Maybe one day those player maker will come out with a player that has multiple tray with auto reverse features! Good for those fat arsed couch potatoes! You can sleep, eat, shit, and screw on your couch without the need to getting up!!

Hmmm..really interesting thread...i am just sitting here..and keep checking this thread every day...two thumbs up for string and g5sim... I wonder why there isnt any specific section for HD here..... Hope, moderator is reading my post here..Thanks

i've done that before...
it's a real pain in the ass getting up after the fourth hour to change the damn disc
if 1 disc had it all,life would be a tad bit less stressful

it's not just about being lazy to change discs..
i dont know about other people,but i almost always eat my lunch/dinner in front of the tv/pc..while watching something..

if 1 disc has 4 hours of content,and im skipping through it,then i'd have to get up in the middle of my meal and change the disc when it is over

it is even worst that i have pets in the house,and i have to keep an eye on both my food and trying to pry open the dvd box

put all in one disc,easy life.
and what is technology if not making our life better/easier?

Toshiba's $999 HD XA2 HD DVD player beats Pioneer's $1,499 ELITE BDP-HD1 Blu-ray player in terms of upconverting standard dvd. And equal in hidef PQ. Oh further more, the HD XA2 decodes advance audio codec Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Digital TrueHD (unlike the BDP-HD1) .. oh the HD XA2 offers amazing HDi interactivity support too (unlike the BDP-HD1 which cant do the currently available BD-J movies). So why are we paying the extra $500 (RM1,850 without tax)? ...

and oh btw -- online retailers are now selling the HD XA2 players at $799. So why pay the extra $700 (RM2,590)?



http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/07/toshiba...d-xa2-reviewed/

HD Guru has a review up of Toshiba's second-generation HD DVD player, the HD-XA2, which they gave top ratings. This is the higher-end of the two new HD DVD Toshiba models, and gets high marks for its improvements on the previous model, with faster loading times, 1080p support, a smaller form factor, and a much-improved chipset for upscaling standard-definition DVDs (the HD-A2 lacks 1080p and the improved upscaling chip).

It includes the Silicon Optix Reon chip for converting your old library of DVDs into 1080p -- or any other resolution supported with the HDMI 1.3a connector -- and also supports the Deep Color space offered by the new HDMI specification, for improved color reproduction with compatible source material.

According to HD Guru's tests, the Toshiba did better than Pioneer's competing first-generation BDP-HD1 Blu-ray player on upconverting SD DVDs, while matching it on quality for high-definition content.

Unfortunately, while the prices and feature sets on both next-gen formats are getting better and better, even this second-gen player takes between 45 and 57 seconds to boot and play a movie. Maybe the third generation will treat us right.

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oh i know why ... the BDP-HD1 takes faster than between 45 and 57 seconds to boot and play a movie.

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Well well what do we have here. Blu-ray won the next gen format war YET AGAIN!! They won before the launch of HD DVD, they won the war again during CEDIA last, they announced that they WON AGAIN during the CES last month, this month they AGAIN, announce that they WON AGAIN !!

10 years ago, the mass would have already eaten those words but not today. Sorry!! Combining Sony and FOX ... wow that is unbeatable in terms of credibility. Wasnt Sony that said they are shipping 4mil of PS3 last year. Wasnt they were the one who claimed to be selling 6mil PS3 by march. March is just days away and there are 700K PS3 sold. Oh wasnt FOX that told America of the weapon of mass destruction and brought USA to war in Iraq ..



Sony says Blu-ray is winning format war

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8613.cfm

We reported a few days ago that figures from Nielsen VideoScan showed that Blu-Ray began to close its gap on HD DVD in January, outselling the format by a ratio of up to 3 to 1. Sony has been quick to use these figures along with its own research to declare the Blu-ray is winning the format war over HD DVD. As you might have guessed, Sony research also includes the PlayStation 3 (PS3).

Sony took an online survey that 100,000 PS3 owners took part in. The company claims that 90% of respondents had watched a Blu-ray movie with their PS3 already, and 80% planned to buy more Blu-ray releases. The Blu-ray camp has not been shy about admitting that PS3 plays a major role (if not the biggest) in Blu-ray's possible success over HD DVD.

The next-generation DVD format war has been so intertwined with the console war that experts believe they will decide the outcome of each other. The PS3 has an internal Blu-ray drive and Microsoft released an external HD DVD drive for the Xbox 360, selling 92,000 units before the end of 2006.

The PS3 will boost up the number of Blu-ray players in homes, but each Xbox 360 add-on drive sold has "definitely" been bought to play HD DVD movies - you get a Blu-ray player with a PS3 whether you are interested or not. Those on the HD DVD side will tell you that Sony's survey is just a "survey" and nothing solid or official and that VideoScan's ratings can be explained by the lack of new HD DVD titles.

However, those on the Blu-ray side can rest assured that the console will continue to sell, eventually leaving millions of homes with functional Blu-ray players and no add-ons necessary.


This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 8 2007, 04:53 AM

Continue the good fight, dear G5sim. A little birdie told me that something's looming coming this summer.

what is coming out in Summer? I dont need names... just rumorish statements would do I like gossip ...

oh ... i hope its not a sarcacism ...

I will always root for cheaper yet with better feature products.

Dont wanna feed the fire, i'll let those impending looming things speak for themselves. Have fun, it will be shortlived.

Im off to enjoy my Complete Saw, currently High Definition only on Bluray.

oh one more :: complete with video .. one how much consumers who are tricked into supporting Blu-ray will regret their action. Its all about Sony as the hardware company, as the content company .... and we are absolutely certain with that combination, consumer's interest is not their priority. Withou HD DVD, consumers wont even see managed copy in Blu-ray.

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So, BD+ was a complete failure. But the plan to implement additional DRM is one example of how the Blu-ray Disc Association does what it can to get on the side of the studios. DRM is not good folks, there's a principle at stake here.

It was a smart strategy to get your format ahead of the other guy. But where does that leave the consumer? Average Joes like us who want to do the coolest stuff possible with a true next generation disc format are liable to be left off the BDA's innovation train. The BDA's unwillingness to support Vista features like Mandatory Managed Copy and iHD seems to be for no other reason than it wants to oppose Microsoft (which supports HD DVD).

Honestly, I'm not taking sides in the "format war". I think it's dragging down the Home Theater industry as a whole. The wisest dollars aren't taking sides until there is one format. But, I question why Sony would bother implementing innovative new ideas in the future of Blu-ray. Buying into Blu-ray seems a bit like hiring a fox to guard the hen house.

Welcome to the first Tunnel Vision that will feature rants and raves from inside Consumer Electronics.


http://www.gizmocafe.com/blogs/gizmo_cafe_.../08/106130.aspx

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Added on February 9, 2007, 3:04 amoh dont worry if hd dvd is dead. HD DVD players unconvert consumers DVD library better some of the Blu-ray titles .. especially the earlier releases ..

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Added on February 9, 2007, 3:06 amand with digital DL of HD movies becoming the trend ... expensive optical disk and with rediculously priced player will suffer more. Amazon, XBox, Apple n now Walmart and HP .. every body is doing digital download ...

This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 9 2007, 03:06 AM

Dude, i was just saying im enjoying my Saw movies now, why do you have to go on a spastic/spasmic convulsion like your previous post? Im sorry but i like my movies like NOW, and sad to say, it's on Bluray. Have fun waiting for your HD-DVD movies, i sincerely mean that.

I hope HD-DVD continue being the competitor so that the BDA folks can continue keep things in check, pumping out good movies, in the end consumers like me won because more movies for us to enjoy. Sadly though, none of the current HD-DVD releases are exciting enough for me to warrant a purchase. Cant say the same about the Bluray titles though.

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another oh .. Sega is releasing Virtua Tennis 3 XBox 360 in 1080p. EA will be releasing NBA Street Homecourt also in 1080p. On DVD! So why pay $200 (RM740) for BD drive in PS3 again? The 50GB storage?

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/2/8/6956

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1080p is the resolution of the gods. Promised by Sony, attainable by few displays, and argued about all over the Internet, 1080p is something that doesn't affect many television owners while remaining a major sticking point in the current console wars. Microsoft gave the 360 the ability to run games in 1080p in the October firmware update, and frankly I never thought we'd see many games support it. Then of course Sega announced that Virtua Tennis would support 1080p on the 360, and now EA is on the bandwagon, saying that its game is also going to support the hallowed resolution:

Following yesterday's news that Sega's March 20 release of Virtua Tennis 3 would herald the first Xbox 360 game to feature native 1080p support, a representative from Electronic Arts has revealed to Gamasutra that its upcoming NBA Street Homecourt, shipping a month earlier on February 20, will also support the high end resolution on Xbox 360...

The fourth game in the EA's fast action basketball series, and the first for a next-gen console, NBA Street Homecourt will support multiple resolutions, including 16:9 1080p at 30fps, according to further information from EA representatives.

So there you go. Now we have two games coming out for the 360 that will support 1080p as a resolution. My question would be-outside of the hardcore console fans and bleeding edge consumers-do people really care about 1080p? Does your television support it? My television runs at 720p natively, so this is all academic to me. I like games to be playbe at 1080p, but it's not that much of a sticking point for me. Does it influence your buying decisions? Will you be more likely to buy a game with more titles that run in "True HD?"

Errr what does this have to do with HD-DVD/Bluray? Are your machineguns running out of ammo, that you're now shoving stale popcorns into your gun barrels?

2 insignificant tiles, compared to MetalGear Solid 4 on PS3, on the Bluray no less. The house of all things MS went deathly quiet about Kojima-san mention of MGS4 requiring 50Gb Blurays, sure didnt hear a peep out of you that time.

^ might point .. 1080p title on dvd disks ..

Read responses in your double posted new thread. Rolling on the floor had never taken a literal meaning on me, till you showed up with that new topic of yours!

read oredi

I swear to God, i never had so much fun reading such quality posts from you ...right up till that golden post/topic of yours. I should thank you for those stomach-bursting hilarity, but what's even funnier, you did it all in the name of your overzealousness to downplay the Bluray....and it bit you back in the arse! ROFLMAO! Ahahahahahahhhhahahahhhh..... *gasps for air*

thanks

News headline: An overzealous <insert camp> fanatic went over his head on his lifelong crusade to crush <insert opposing camp> faction, and found himself in shame for his blissful ignorance. The said fanatic tucked his tail between his feet and limps lifelessly home after putting out the raging fires that's the result of his feverish attempts to attack the <insert opposing camp> with his mortar and firey catapults, but backfired and set his own <insert camp> on fire. Hilarity and forever exemplification of said incident ensues.

God, if only LYN has one of those ROFLMAO emotes in, there isnt a big or expressive enough emotes that can describe how i feel right now! Priceless!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 9 2007, 04:12 AM