you just BD's grave with this quote

There is a reason why Double Layer BD disk replication cost is not included. There is a reason why the article discounted the talks of Steve Hirsch from Vivid about the cost of authoring (which again ommited in the article) and replication cost (which according to him Authoring 4x Replication 3x more on BD) yet they believe 100% of the statement that Vivid is producing an adult title on Blu-ray (both cost and BD adult title availability were made on the same article) yet supporters accept the latter and dismissing the former .. strange isnt it ...

and btw -- those cost figure are non subsidised HD DVD vs subsidised BD cost. The cost revealed by Steve Hirsch was not subsidised !!

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Added on February 11, 2007, 2:17 amand take this because of the extremely high cost of BD especially the double layer disks, both HD DVD/ and single layer BD movie titles MSRP are increased to the level of the DL BD movie cost. Another 'possitive' for the consumers ..

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Added on February 11, 2007, 2:19 amand another oh ... please check the MSRP of BD vs HD DVD movies .. dont be surprised, you have been warned

This post has been edited by g5sim: Feb 11 2007, 02:19 AM

g5sim..thaks for the recommended list...found out that the latest version for DVE's hdtv calibration disc will also be released in hd-dvd on 28th february too...

you are most welcome

So, who win who die?
Pasar malam still got sell DVD right?

pasar malam dvd - quality vcd .. i dont think pirates give a f*** about PQ .. they wont bother with BD or HD DVD ..

Some pasar malam DVD have very good PQ ONLY if u know how and which to buy.
My point in the previous post is - we average joe dun farking care about those HDVCD/blutis ray. Normal but widely available DVD is already sufficient for our small 32 incher unless all those HD stuff is as cheap as current-gen stuff.
Plz recall back, DVD dun really take-off until players with the price tags of RM500 emerged, and they dun need HDMI-oh-so-expensive cable.

Just my RM0.02, dun flame me.

quoted for truth

er... how much is a HDMI cable?

Rm 300 for SONY brand.. & chap ayam kaki 5 .. Rm89.00.. .... i think..

eh? i tot sony din produce HDMI cable? got ar?

hmm... rm 300 ar? monster component cable also roughly like tat

rm 89 for a HDMI cable is ok lar, i bought my optical cable for sound only also ard rm 50 or so

Bro,mana bole tgk dvd skang ni,buat "sakit" mata jer.Tgk BD la baru mata xsakit


This post has been edited by saiga: Feb 15 2007, 05:52 PM

Somebody needs to take the first steps, so that average Joes like you can enjoy the technology at cheaper rates later. Obviously you are not an early adopter, but please bear in mind, that if it is not for those who adopted the technology early and allow the tech to flourish, you will never get it mass-produced for it to drop down to comfortable prices for you to buy, wouldnt it?. Or are you happy with staying stagnant? New tech will always be expensive, but pricetags will drop once the market has decided to back which camp, and proceed with mass production.

In the end, average Joes like you still need to know which DVD players to buy and what features they come with, once you are comfortable buying one, isnt it? Same case here, once the Bluray/HD-DVD winner is decided. It is just that this thread monitors which format will likely to succeed DVD, once the dust settles. You cannot stop technology, otherwise the phones you are selling now would be those crappy StarTacs and huge ATURs now, would it? I surprised, for someone "in the business of selling technology" like you ,these kind of logic should have set in mind.

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Added on February 15, 2007, 6:13 pm

You post has merits, Pip-X. Let's keep the thread civil. Just remember, boys and girls:-


That includes smarty-pants one-liners as well.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 15 2007, 06:15 PM

very cute

er.... sorry guys, wat is the meaning of troll ar?

Yes, you are right. Somebody with real cash who can afford, should the white mouse... early adopter for the rest of us average joes. But when some technology which is intended to replace current technology, it got to be very good stuff. Example of this in my area of business is color LCD replacing monochrome LCD, bluetooth replacing infrared. They offer tremendous benifit to the old technology they are replacing.
Unfortunately, this whole HD stuff is not the case. They are created and embraced by the respective company just to make money, while the so-called new technology have only little non-revolutionary benefit.
A very good of this is Betamax (oh, you might not know what is betamax, just click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax)
to VHS (again, you might not know that is VHS, sissying with HD, click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS). Atrac to MP3, WMA, Memory Stick to Secure Digital. Nobody really use them except Sony. Even Sony's flagship blu-ray player, the PS3, sells poorly in many country, especially in their home country. The only REAL benefit from the blue-lasered disc is their capacity, offering about 50GB of uncompressed data. And HD dun actually need these capacity if it's engineered properly.
There's actually a current technology which can do ALL stuff that the HDDVD and blu-ray can do, hyper-interactivity, DRM stuff, HDPQ, that don't need us to buy HDMI cables, HDMI capable GC, and overheating player.
Google for DivX HD. A DivX HD movie can fit into a DL DVD and can pump enuf bandwidth to do full HD + 7.1 sounds eventhough it dun use HDMI, because DivX HD movie is compressed using smarter codec while retaining it's full HD glory. It use normal DL DVD, run on normal DVD drive, computer program player can be downloaded from the net, and you can buy a DivX HD compatible DVD player from Pioneer for less than RM400. Blu-raying Spiderman 2 in the PS3 and playing DivX HD encoded of the same movie in Sony Bravia KDL-46XBR3 virtualy have no different. Unfortunately, nobody gonna use DivX HD because they cannot make their own money from DivX HD, eventhough this is a cheaper approach. Me've tested this myself, if you dun have the equipment, go any AV shop to test or is it mediaplex? Yeah go mediaplex test it if you dun believe me.
In the meanwhile, me gonna enjoy some HD XviD coded movie torrented from blu-ray ripper for FREE. (RM2.50 for a DVD+ DL actually). PS3, canyou help me to collect dusk until Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway come out? Thank you.
Oh yeah, b4 me forgot, boys and girls, here another interesting picture too:

you downloaded 20+ gigs off of the net?

Popcorn, checked!
Soda, checked!
Comfy chair, checked!
Dim the lights, checked!

Let's get this show started! ......................

8 gigs something. No worries, one night and it's done.

*sits next to ps360*

Here we go again....

HD Xvid versus HD off VC-1 or MPEG2 at HD-DVD/Bluray higher bitrate are two totally different beasts altogether, but if you are willing to compromise picture/audio quality for something you downloaded off the net, then it's your personal preference. BTW, that troll picture is not for you, Pip-x, it was for someone else, scroll back for his lack-of-imagination one-liners. Nothing to do with what he stands, rather than his next-to-zero content in his every posts in this thread.

Carry on, i've too many other things on my mind to get involved in petty things like this. But im hopeful that im getting my HD-XA2 by the end of this month, to totally chuck my aging upscaling DVD player out.