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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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post Sep 6 2016, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 6 2016, 09:25 AM)
For gaming?

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 151
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 999
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 2729 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
HIS is not widely available in Malaysia that's why it is a bit "underrated" here.

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Thanks master! Is it able to change to gtx1060 build? The mini one looks cheaper.
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post Sep 6 2016, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Sep 6 2016, 07:02 PM)
Thanks master! Is it able to change to gtx1060 build? The mini one looks cheaper.
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Yes but small amount of top up is needed.

Palit Dual Fan - RM 1128
Zotac Mini - RM 1169
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post Sep 6 2016, 08:53 PM

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Hi guys,
long time reader, first time poster here.

I have a 3-years old semi decent Rig which can run current AAA titles at low-medium settings.

Currently im planning to upgrade part of it (mainly GPU and maybe add water cooling).
Can the otais help recommend me what to get? Thanks! (Budget around MYR 1,000~ish)

My Rig Spec.

MotherBoard: Asustek B75M-A
CPU : Intel i5 3330 @ 3.00GHz (Stock cooling fan)
GPU : AMD Radeon HD 7700
RAM : 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 800MHz
PSU : Templarius Imperator 750W (80 Plus Silver)
Case : CM 690 (Old case, Around 8 Y/O)


PS: My GPU might be dying soon, hence the reason for upgrade.
PSS: I have to ask here because im scared if i cincai pick newer parts it would be incompatible/bottle neck with my current rig.
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post Sep 6 2016, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(fhydd @ Sep 6 2016, 08:53 PM)
Hi guys,
long time reader, first time poster here.

I have a 3-years old semi decent Rig which can run current AAA titles at low-medium settings.

Currently im planning to upgrade part of it (mainly GPU and maybe add water cooling).
Can the otais help recommend me what to get? Thanks! (Budget around MYR 1,000~ish)

My Rig Spec.

MotherBoard: Asustek B75M-A
CPU            : Intel i5 3330 @ 3.00GHz (Stock cooling fan)
GPU            : AMD Radeon HD 7700
RAM            : 2x4GB DDR3 Corsair 800MHz
PSU            : Templarius Imperator 750W (80 Plus Silver)
Case            : CM 690 (Old case, Around 8 Y/O)
PS: My GPU might be dying soon, hence the reason for upgrade.
PSS: I have to ask here because im scared if i cincai pick newer parts it would be incompatible/bottle neck with my current rig.
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It's either RX470 4GB or GTX1060 3GB with your budget unless you top up a bit for GTX1060 6GB (Palit Dual or Zotac Mini).

As for cooler, just reuse the stock cooler, primary your budget in GPU upgrade instead.
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post Sep 7 2016, 03:47 AM

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Guys what's the cheapest speaker with an optical input? Sorry for asking here, it's the only place I come to if I have a hardware question.
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post Sep 7 2016, 09:44 AM

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[Budget] Around 3k

[Purpose] For work, gaming and illustrator/photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU, monitor, casing, keyboard, mouse and speakers

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Frequently uses photoshop/illustrator, MS office programs and CS GO

[Personal preferences]
Intel Core i5 6500 / 6600
GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 (SOCKET 1151)
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
Seagate 2TB Barracuda / WD 2TB Caviar Blue (for data storages)
CM Hyper 212X
VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 2666 (8GB x 2)
GIGABYTE Radeon™ RX 470 G1 Gaming 4G


Not sure if this is ok to run the above mentioned. Hopefully it can last me for at least 7-8 years? like the one i am using now which is dying by parts LOL!
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post Sep 7 2016, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 7 2016, 03:47 AM)
Guys what's the cheapest speaker with an optical input? Sorry for asking here, it's the only place I come to if I have a hardware question.
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Try to ask in Audiophiles.

https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles

QUOTE(Wonka @ Sep 7 2016, 09:44 AM)
[Budget] Around 3k

[Purpose] For work, gaming and illustrator/photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU, monitor, casing, keyboard, mouse and speakers

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Frequently uses photoshop/illustrator, MS office programs and CS GO

[Personal preferences]
Intel Core i5 6500 / 6600
GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 (SOCKET 1151)
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB
Seagate 2TB Barracuda / WD 2TB Caviar Blue (for data storages)
CM Hyper 212X
VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 2666 (8GB x 2)
GIGABYTE Radeon™ RX 470 G1 Gaming 4G


Not sure if this is ok to run the above mentioned. Hopefully it can last me for at least 7-8 years? like the one i am using now which is dying by parts LOL!
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If you play CS:GO only then you can save more on the GPU, GTX950/RX460 is more than enough and focus more on the CPU part like getting an i7 instead of i5.
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post Sep 7 2016, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 10:30 AM)
Try to ask in Audiophiles.

https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles
If you play CS:GO only then you can save more on the GPU, GTX950/RX460 is more than enough and focus more on the CPU part like getting an i7 instead of i5.
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between GTX950 and RX460, which one is much cheaper ? or they are on the same price, and which one do you recommend ? sweat.gif
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post Sep 7 2016, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Sep 7 2016, 10:39 AM)
between GTX950 and RX460, which one is much cheaper ? or they are on the same price, and which one do you recommend ?  sweat.gif
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Depends on which brand you are getting.

HIS RX460 4GB is the cheapest RX460 now, RM 599 only, most of the shops in Lowyat Plaza are selling it now.

Otherwise Palit/Zotac GTX950 2GB is slightly cheaper than Sapphire/Gigabyte/XFX RX460 2GB/4GB.

If only for Dota 2/CS:GO, just get the cheapest one, they barely make a difference in games (in terms of frame rate in 1080p).
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post Sep 7 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 10:30 AM)
Try to ask in Audiophiles.

https://forum.lowyat.net/Audiophiles
If you play CS:GO only then you can save more on the GPU, GTX950/RX460 is more than enough and focus more on the CPU part like getting an i7 instead of i5.
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There's other games too but because my current setup can't play so I did not download other Steam games to try out lol.
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post Sep 7 2016, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 6 2016, 10:03 PM)
It's either RX470 4GB or GTX1060 3GB with your budget unless you top up a bit for GTX1060 6GB (Palit Dual or Zotac Mini).

As for cooler, just reuse the stock cooler, primary your budget in GPU upgrade instead.
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Hi thanks for the reply terence.
Mind asking whats the difference between Gigabyte RX 470 G1 4G and Sapphite Nitro+ RX470 4G?

The place im looking at offers both with price difference around 10-20 ringgit. And trusty google searches came back useless haha.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 2 2016, 11:40 AM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 707
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 145
Palit GTX950 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 609
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 2747 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. 240GB SSD (or 120GB if only for OS)
2. 16GB RAM (if you deal with many large Excel files)
3. PCIe based WiFi adapter for better stability
4. IPS monitor
5. Other case (your own preferences)
WiFi is prone to interference, obstacles and many external factors, for optimum connection experience, you are recommended to use ethernet cable.

You can swap to a mobo with onboard WiFi card like Gigabyte H170N-WiFi, but that would cost RM 200+ more.

As for USB dongle, any cheap TP-LINK will do if you are still using single band router (2.4GHz) only, it makes no difference to get dual band when you are being limited by the router itself  sweat.gif
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On the motherboard right, what is the best option if I wanna get the HDMI mobo?
And if I were to choose Phanteks Eclipse P400 instead of Tecware F3, would that add any advantage to the performance? Or should I spend the extra money elsewhere?
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QUOTE(Wonka @ Sep 7 2016, 10:54 AM)
There's other games too but because my current setup can't play so I did not download other Steam games to try out lol.
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If so then I suggest you to go for cheaper mobo like H170/B150, you don't need a Z170 when you aren't going to overclock the CPU.

Change to performance RAM to value RAM then dump all the remaining money in the GPU (GTX1060/RX480 at least) nod.gif

QUOTE(fhydd @ Sep 7 2016, 01:44 PM)
Hi thanks for the reply terence.
Mind asking whats the difference between Gigabyte RX 470 G1 4G and Sapphite Nitro+ RX470 4G?

The place im looking at offers both with price difference around 10-20 ringgit. And trusty google searches came back useless haha.
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Both come with similar chipset, so that's only cooler design and clock speed difference. Sapphire Nitro comes with slightly higher factory overclocked clock speed but G1 version is nicer in my opinion (just my preference tongue.gif ). Either one will work fine, just don't overspend on a 4GB RX470 because GTX1060 6GB can be bought as low as RM 1128 (Palit Dual Fan), if you use voucher code in Lazada/GemFive, it can be even lower (subject to stock availability).

QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 7 2016, 02:11 PM)
On the motherboard right, what is the best option if I wanna get the HDMI mobo?
And if I were to choose Phanteks Eclipse P400 instead of Tecware F3, would that add any advantage to the performance? Or should I spend the extra money elsewhere?
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Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4), remember to use the display output port of your GPU and not mobo itself, if not the dedicated GPU will be wasted because the graphics/display will be routed through the iGPU instead of dedicated GPU, if you don't know about this then most likely you aren't aware of the "useless" display output port(s) of the mobo for gamers yet, they are pointless for those who have dedicated GPU, only show their usefulness when dedicated GPU is dead or you want to do some troubleshooting jobs etc sweat.gif

Casing doesn't add performance, what you get is different design/look and airflow (which indirectly alters the temperature if airflow is not the same).

My suggestion is to spend the money in somewhere else first, Tecware Alpha is a decent high airflow casing, hardware > aesthetic for beginners.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 03:06 PM)
If so then I suggest you to go for cheaper mobo like H170/B150, you don't need a Z170 when you aren't going to overclock the CPU.

Change to performance RAM to value RAM then dump all the remaining money in the GPU (GTX1060/RX480 at least)  nod.gif
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I will look into it. No rush in getting them yet. Will slowly get item by item biggrin.gif no money
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 03:06 PM)
If so then I suggest you to go for cheaper mobo like H170/B150, you don't need a Z170 when you aren't going to overclock the CPU.

Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4), remember to use the display output port of your GPU and not mobo itself, if not the dedicated GPU will be wasted because the graphics/display will be routed through the iGPU instead of dedicated GPU, if you don't know about this then most likely you aren't aware of the "useless" display output port(s) of the mobo for gamers yet, they are pointless for those who have dedicated GPU, only show their usefulness when dedicated GPU is dead or you want to do some troubleshooting jobs etc  sweat.gif

My suggestion is to spend the money in somewhere else first, Tecware Alpha is a decent high airflow casing, hardware > aesthetic for beginners.
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Do you mean that I should use both internal and dedicated GPUs concurrently? (Would it increase the performance somehow?) Is it better for me to only run the dedicated GPU? And save the internal GPU for back up?
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QUOTE(ms749 @ Sep 7 2016, 05:39 PM)
Do you mean that I should use both internal and dedicated GPUs concurrently? (Would it increase the performance somehow?) Is it better for me to only run the dedicated GPU? And save the internal GPU for back up?
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No, I meant if you have a dedicated GPU then just use the display output port from your dedicated GPU, modern mobo will switch off the iGPU since it serves no purpose on desktop PC with a dedicated GPU installed (we don't need battery saving feature like laptop).

So it doesn't matter whether your mobo comes with HDMI port or not since you gonna use the HDMI port of your dedicated GPU, no? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Sep 7 2016, 05:48 PM)
No, I meant if you have a dedicated GPU then just use the display output port from your dedicated GPU, modern mobo will switch off the iGPU since it serves no purpose on desktop PC with a dedicated GPU installed (we don't need battery saving feature like laptop).

So it doesn't matter whether your mobo comes with HDMI port or not since you gonna use the HDMI port of your dedicated GPU, no?  hmm.gif
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Ohhh okay I have just realised that GPUs also have output display ports!! shocking.gif shocking.gif

That just proves how noob I am! blush.gif

Btw thanks for clearing that up! So in summary, if I ever need to use HDMI, just plug it into my GPU output. Thank you boss!! notworthy.gif
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[Budget] Around 7k

[Purpose] Mainly gaming and graphic + video rendering

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers

[Monitor resolution] 1080p (will upgrade to 4k within 2 years)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe premiere pro, adobe illustrator/photoshop, triple A games.

[Preference] GTX1070 and Intel Corei7-6700k. I will also prefer a good casing that has good dust filtering/cleaning/customization/cooling.

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post Sep 7 2016, 09:19 PM

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What do you guys think about these 2 cards? Im in dilemma of choosing these 2 cards. Please help me out hahaha

1. Asus gtx1070 Strix OC 8GB

2. EVGA gtx1070 FTW ACX 3.0
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