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TSlaiseng
post Jan 22 2007, 06:42 PM, updated 19y ago

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I'll buy Vios G, Any advice for me not to

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post Jan 22 2007, 06:44 PM

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small ,overprice .. not classy looking
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:44 PM

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nothing bad about vios...... should buy... later on the post u will know how "god" are vios is....

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post Jan 22 2007, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(eng98 @ Jan 22 2007, 06:44 PM)
nothing bad about vios...... should buy... later on the post u will know how "god" are vios is....
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g spec no airbag and abs etc rite????
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:48 PM

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Great FC, well packaged with duo airbags, ABS and EBD, sporty looking, revvy and responsive engine, easy to maintain, that what i can summon the good parts.

Bad part? Kinda cramped and poor interior quality. Also quite overpriced for such car as the city is proven a better value.
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 22 2007, 06:47 PM)
g spec no airbag and abs etc rite????
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G spec is the highest end model for vios.... everything in..
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 22 2007, 06:47 PM)
g spec no airbag and abs etc rite????
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G is full specs, if I'm not mistaken
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Jan 22 2007, 06:49 PM)
G is full specs, if I'm not mistaken
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then the e spec????
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:50 PM

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go ahead.. its a good car..
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 22 2007, 06:49 PM)
then the e spec????
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E spec has only 1 single airbag and that's it. tongue.gif
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 22 2007, 06:49 PM)
then the e spec????
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G with dual SRS, ABS, FR & RR disk brake, bigger rims 15"?
E 1 SRS, no ABS, FR disk RR drum, 14" rims

prolly both come with 15" now, not sure though, correct me if im wrong

TS, go ahead, buy it, drive it , love it, then come back & keep us informed. rclxms.gif

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post Jan 22 2007, 06:55 PM

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and rear drum brake too..... 14" wheel den i dun think the 1 din and 2 din make alot diff......
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 22 2007, 06:49 PM)
then the e spec????
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I think; 1 air bag, no mp3 player, no fog light, interior different colour, 14" rim, different brakes (front and back)
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post Jan 22 2007, 07:00 PM

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Any advice for me not to

New Waja?! Trade the FC with space and leather seats?? Actually you would have extra 20k to compensate for the lack of FC the new Waja has. Bargain or not you decide. tongue.gif

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post Jan 22 2007, 07:03 PM

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Small rims for the g spec eww...
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post Jan 22 2007, 07:04 PM

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Cheapest toyota model. Not as good as the Altis nor Camry. Entry level class. Too. Compact. not enough leg room..
My suggestion you should forget about Vios G and straight go for either an Altis or Camry instead..

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post Jan 22 2007, 07:17 PM

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I suggest you to think of city as well. City VTEC offers everything vios G spec offers. Been in a vios, honestly, it is cramp for the back seat, build quality i would say so so only (city is much better). Never driven 1 so cant give any driving experience bout it.
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post Jan 22 2007, 07:34 PM

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They say 2006 Vios is from Thailand, while earlier ones were from UMWT. From these I guess there would be some quality differences.

And I heard the new 2006 fix from issues from earlier batches. Especially the cram part. So I'm not sure you are comparing to which yr of make.


Btw, some City owner do have headache on CVT gear as well. Very few even replaced it twice. Look in some forum the price is RM17k for the CVT gear. Heard the CVT problems has been solved in new models but warranty claims on CVT City gears do date back 'til Oct 2006 (this isn't that far back). But all these I saw on forums, not solid fact in front of my eyes.


So give & take, and do more research. wink.gif


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post Jan 22 2007, 08:03 PM

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for the same price of a vios G, you could get a city with much bigger space, same safety features and almost equal FC, best of all, you could choose IDSI and VTEC version.

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post Jan 22 2007, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Jan 22 2007, 07:04 PM)
Cheapest toyota model. Not as good as the Altis nor Camry. Entry level class. Too. Compact. not enough leg room..
My suggestion you should forget about Vios G and straight go for either an Altis or Camry instead..
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No lah, the cheapest is the E version. Altis outdated already, replacement coming soon. Come to think of it, Vios replacement also coming soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jan 22 2007, 08:19 PM)
No lah, the cheapest is the E version.  Altis outdated already, replacement coming soon.  Come to think of it, Vios replacement also coming soon smile.gif
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Yeah so why hurry? Wait till the replacement models come and decide. Unless u already trade in ur old car and now depending on our 'best public transport' eww.. whistling.gif
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post Jan 22 2007, 08:50 PM

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Heard oso that Toyotas are going have to hard time when servicing, have tu line up since UMW oni in M'sia can service...
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post Jan 22 2007, 08:59 PM

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if u have a car now, then u might as well wait for the altis replacement which is coming after CNY. Nice move by UMW to clear all old stock by using CNY as promotion
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post Jan 22 2007, 09:30 PM

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For me, i think Honda car is more expensive when replacing parts after 3 years warranty compares to toyota

and toyota cars are known for it's durability and longevity (atleast from my limited knowledge)

i have feeling that honda cars are more fragile than toyota
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post Jan 23 2007, 08:54 AM

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Go for it. its comfortable and the exterior is nice. just the interior a little bit poor if compared to city..
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post Jan 23 2007, 10:17 AM

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The choice is really up to you unless you really love Vios thats why you started this post anyways.

If your just wandering around indecisively, then go for a Honda.
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post Jan 23 2007, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jan 22 2007, 06:44 PM)
small ,overprice .. not classy looking
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not juz vios, all imported and local made cars is over-price~~~
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we need a affordable + reliable car~~~
who the heck cares how classic it is...?
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post Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM

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waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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most ppl would not affrod to buy something like civic or mazda3....
mind ur words calling ppl stupid...!
any difference reaching the destination by using vios or mazda3...?
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why the hell TS need to drive a car that 100k above...?
not everyone like rich rich brat as you....

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post Jan 23 2007, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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this is what i call an absolute nonsense post. doh.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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LOL what gives you the fact that 100k above cars can save as much fuel as the lower end ones?
And even if you do save on fuel do you know the maintenance on the cars for 100k and above?
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 12:27 PM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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even a bicycle will get you from A to B la
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flame kau him everyone
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 23 2007, 12:36 PM)
even a bicycle will get you from A to B la
duh,
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flame kau him everyone
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buy neo.............
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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nonsense.. not all people can afford 100k car. TS just want opinion on vios only what..
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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Sorry, I couldn't comprehend a single words uttered by you.

I think you should attend english class. Once you are fluent, come back here and we discuss again. . smile.gif
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post Jan 23 2007, 01:30 PM

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TS, ask igor_is300, he owns a vios and he can tell you better then anyone of us here (non-owners)
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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frankly, i find this statment very immature...
as not every people can fork out that much to own a car...

especially when one is in need for a vehicle but he/she currently can afford only let say RM60k... does that mean he/she should keep walking then wait until saving reach RM100k then only purchase those RM100k++ vehicles!!??


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post Jan 23 2007, 01:37 PM

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TS, no reason for u to say no ...

it a good car, i own a E...if u ask me will i regret...no!!!

even is overprice 19k excise tax...

only problem is poor handling, thus need add strut bar to improve it...the immobilser problem already solved by UMW after the recall last time...wont affect new stock in theory tongue.gif ....

FC, G is higher then E since the rim is 15, but wont be a lot different...

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waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
sigh, tell me this world today, which thing is not waste money 1???

some people spend RM100++ a night just to go to a place, drink a glass of liquor, then dancing in the dark light .... some people spend 2k on a stuff just to call some 1 or let some 1 call him....

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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 02:37 PM)
TS, no reason for u to say no ...

it a good car, i own a E...if u ask me will i regret...no!!!

even is overprice 19k excise tax...

only problem is poor handling, thus need add strut bar to improve it...the immobilser problem already solved by UMW after the recall last time...wont affect new stock in theory tongue.gif ....

FC, G is higher then E since the rim is 15, but wont be a lot different...
sigh, tell me this world today, which thing is not waste money 1???

some people spend RM100++ a night just to go to a place, drink a glass of liquor, then dancing in the dark light .... some people spend 2k on a stuff just to call some 1 or let some 1 call him....
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whahaha nice one there ken.
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I really wanna laugh at this statement. If so he can advise better dont buy or change car since all cars can save fuel. doh.gif

What a ultimate bullock statement is that. doh.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 01:37 PM)
FC, G is higher then E since the rim is 15, but wont be a lot different...
sigh, tell me this world today, which thing is not waste money 1???
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i tot G should perform better than E...?
G setting looks cooler since the 15"rim + brakes disc front/back...

FC in between G or E depends on the driving styles...
my family oni afford to have E, haha...
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bro, classic is different and classy is different...

classic = old/antique
classy = sumthin like bergaya...dunno how to explain to u ...
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 23 2007, 03:13 PM)
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i tot G should perform better than E...?
G setting looks cooler since the 15"rim + brakes disc front/back...

FC in between G or E depends on the driving styles...
my family oni afford to have E, haha...
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G and E vios is powered by the same engine. acceleration, top speed will be the same.
stopping power, G will be better because all round disc brakes.
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QUOTE(motherker @ Jan 23 2007, 02:18 PM)
bro, classic is different and classy is different...
classic = old/antique
classy = sumthin like bergaya...dunno how to explain to u ...
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buy those BMW M3 loh then, so classy...
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but still u get what u pay for...

QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 23 2007, 02:22 PM)
G and E vios is powered by the same engine. acceleration, top speed will be the same.
stopping power, G will be better because all round disc brakes.
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top speed is the same, but on handling G is still better bcuz of 15"rim wider tyre surface applied...
E spec tyre so small like myvi oni~~~

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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 23 2007, 02:13 PM)
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i tot G should perform better than E...?
G setting looks cooler since the 15"rim + brakes disc front/back...

FC in between G or E depends on the driving styles...
my family oni afford to have E, haha...
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nope. theoritically E's performance (acceleration & fuel consumption) is better than G becoz of its thinner tire size and weight (extra equipment like ABS, passenger front airbag, hanky panky accessories and heavier rim). Engine for both E & G r the same, but really u can't notice the difference by much le. wink.gif

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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 23 2007, 03:23 PM)
top speed is the same, but on handling G is still better bcuz of 15"rim wider tyre surface applied...
E spec tyre so small like myvi oni~~~
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actually you wont see much difference or almost no difference in handling
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 23 2007, 02:34 PM)
actually you wont see much difference or almost no difference in handling
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LOL...yes...for vios, to improve handling, besides bigger rim, lower the spring + strut only can improve it...else wont be much different...
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 03:37 PM)
LOL...yes...for vios, to improve handling, besides bigger rim, lower the spring + strut only can improve it...else wont be much different...
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he say bigger rims only wor
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 02:37 PM)
LOL...yes...for vios, to improve handling, besides bigger rim, lower the spring + strut only can improve it...else wont be much different...
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ayo... we dun even know whether TS really care about performance or not... let's not start telling him to change this or add that yet lah... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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Hmmm, isnt that contradicting? First, you said it's waste of money to buy those cars that worth RM100k and below. Then, you mentioned save money for cars that worth more than RM110k and above. So which is which now? Dont waste money? Lets start with our most basic/stoneage transportation. Our very own reliable pair of legs. biggrin.gif

Well, its true that fuel consumption is determined by how you drive but only to a certain extend. Dont tell me it's fuel saving even you drive slow on a Ferrari/Lamborghini with more than 4000cc, V8/10/12 cylinders engines? rolleyes.gif

Oh btw, pls learn up some basic "england" before you come back here and go on further with the discussion. smile.gif
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Own a vios G 2005, can tapao nissan sentra 1.6 on straight road anytime. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 02:37 PM)
LOL...yes...for vios, to improve handling, besides bigger rim, lower the spring + strut only can improve it...else wont be much different...
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 23 2007, 02:42 PM)
he say bigger rims only wor
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sumore need lower spring + racing strut...?
haha...total failure for me then, my father wan vios to stay as stock setting oni~~~
better off mode my own car then...
thx for the infos...
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 23 2007, 03:10 PM)
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sumore need lower spring + racing strut...?
haha...total failure for me then, my father wan vios to stay as stock setting oni~~~
better off mode my own car then...
thx for the infos...
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add strut bar is not for performance but for safety also ...
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Jan 22 2007, 07:04 PM)
Cheapest toyota model. Not as good as the Altis nor Camry. Entry level class. Too. Compact. not enough leg room..
My suggestion you should forget about Vios G and straight go for either an Altis or Camry instead..
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altis and camry totally diff price range from vios. the cloeset will be altis 1.6E. that one seriously under power, better off with vios G.

vios will be value for money. good FC and responsive. just a bit cramp at the back.
but please bare in mind, the might be new model of vios coming out this year.
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some people spend RM100++ a night just to go to a place, drink a glass of liquor, then dancing in the dark light .... some people spend 2k on a stuff just to call some 1 or let some 1 call him....
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haha...total failure for me then, my father wan vios to stay as stock setting oni~~~
better off mode my own car then...
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Well, Toyota cars' suspension setup is design to be more on the comfort side if you were to compare to Honda. So no doubt, Toyota is very comfortable. Just like how you compare Vios to City and Yaris to Jazz. The Toyota's' and Honda's' have similar suspension layout as Machperson Strut for the front and Torsion Beam for the rear. On paper they are the same but on reality, the Honda is stiffer hence better handling but not as comfort as the Toyota when come to potholes, uneven roads and highway cruising. Same goes to if you compare the Camry with Accord. The Honda has newer, innovative and creative interior and gadgets/technology on their latest/new model. While Toyota's being the rather conventional but reliable, simplicity and durable/comfort.

It all boils down what you want and your requirements and personal taste on certain looks and design. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 23 2007, 03:05 PM)
lol gouki bomb 9 him
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Hmmm, isnt that contradicting? First, you said it's waste of money to buy those cars that worth RM100k and below. Then, you mentioned save money for cars that worth more than RM110k and above. So which is which now? Dont waste money? Lets start with our most basic/stoneage transportation. Our very own reliable pair of legs. biggrin.gif

Well, its true that fuel consumption is determined by how you drive but only to a certain extend. Dont tell me it's fuel saving even you drive slow on a Ferrari/Lamborghini with more than 4000cc, V8/10/12 cylinders engines? rolleyes.gif

Oh btw, pls learn up some basic "england" before you come back here and go on further with the discussion. smile.gif
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u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 23 2007, 05:20 PM)
I mean its true what, dont bash blindly lar. Sigh.
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second round, you reload liao?

QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 05:27 PM)
u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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fire away gouki
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

It all boils down what you want and your requirements and personal taste on certain looks and design. smile.gif
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haha... my family choose vios E is bcuz of the tight budget + love toyota brand very much~~
so better off save money mod my very own myvi kiddo...

QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 04:27 PM)
u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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i think not every1 like u so damn rich... buy car with cash...
u also cannot compare a 1.5cc with a 2.0cc car~~~
u're very funny, the thing is there will be a better car / new model every year... dry.gif

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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 04:27 PM)
u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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See... i told you to learn up some proper basic "england" mar.

First of all, please highlight which of my post that mentioned i can buy a Ferrari/Lamborghini with RM100k? I might suffer from "temporarily memory loss" symptom but if i can recall correctly i didnt mention that at all. smile.gif

Secondly, if i cant compare 2000cc with 4000cc, then i guess you cant compare 1500cc to 1800cc/2000cc as well. After all, you did mentioned in your previous post that the capacity doesnt matter, what really matter is how you drive. Did i recall correctly? Or i'm on temporarily memory loss again? smile.gif

If cars such as Vios/City/Jazz is like soft toy to you, what do you call cars like SmartForTwo, MyVi, Passo or worse a Kancil? If someone can only afford to buy a car that cost RM80k+, what make you think he/she can afford to buy a car beyond the RM100k price range? RM20k might be little to you, but it meant a lot to most of us here. smile.gif

As i said, if you cant express your comment here with proper basic "england", then i guess you need at least to be able to comprehend my lousy "england" and understand them before replying here blindly for further discussion. Cheers. smile.gif

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second round, you reload liao?
fire away gouki
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Great FC, well packaged with duo airbags, ABS and EBD, sporty looking, revvy and responsive engine, easy to maintain, that what i can summon the good parts.

Bad part? Kinda cramped and poor interior quality. Also quite overpriced for such car as the city is proven a better value.
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 04:27 PM)
u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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Lol 80k soft toy?
What do you mean soft toy in what sense I'm pretty curious in that statement of yours.
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QUOTE(kerry1136 @ Jan 23 2007, 06:37 PM)
Lol 80k soft toy?
What do you mean soft toy in what sense I'm pretty curious in that statement of yours.
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Meaning cars that cost less than RM100k and have a 4 stars rating in Euro NCAP are soft toy to him. tongue.gif
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y not buy perdana v6, saw newspaper said tat got big discount for v6, up to 11k
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y not buy perdana v6, saw newspaper said tat got big discount for v6, up to 11k
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Well, it's a good choice too if large family saloon is in mind but if only they come with 2 airbags. Proton has kinda neglected the Perdana though. Cant deny that the Perdana is aging if were to compete with other cars in the local market. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 23 2007, 08:03 PM)
Well, it's a good choice too if large family saloon is in mind but if only they come with 2 airbags. Proton has kinda neglected the Perdana though. Cant deny that the Perdana is aging if were to compete with other cars in the local market.  biggrin.gif
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this is exactly my gripe. top of the line model from proton and no airbags
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suicidal company management
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 23 2007, 07:25 PM)
this is exactly my gripe. top of the line model from proton and no airbags
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Exactly, i just hate their management. If not due to protection, they should have produce better cars for the malaysians much way earlier. Should have revamp the whole management in their company. tongue.gif
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who ask u to drive so fast? drive safety lar bro...
dun hurt other ppl or hurt urself...
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who ask u to drive so fast? drive safety lar bro...
dun hurt other ppl or hurt urself...
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y not buy perdana v6, saw newspaper said tat got big discount for v6, up to 11k
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discount so much, 99% is 2006 stock

if people can afford 100k++ car, better consider altis/civic ... perdana v6 mostly bought by company for their top management level people...

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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 04:27 PM)
u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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I finally get what this fella meaning, since i felt this fella dont really like small cars like the vios and the city (although the city is spacious for a 1.5cc car) he wanted to advice that its wiser to spend on bigger and more established models like the civic and the corolla.

Well dude, times has changed, small cars like vios and city has got better acceptance and seriously u need to read and write more on english man. sweat.gif

Also i dont agree on you saying that ppl who can afford a vios can afford a better car. That shows inmaturity of u. shakehead.gif
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Also i dont agree on you saying that ppl who can afford a vios can afford a better car. That shows inmaturity of u. shakehead.gif
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lol..yeah man..i buy vios because i not afford vios's bro altis and camry laugh.gif

btw, liewseng is selling his dvd player for 1.5k, interested ?

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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 08:56 PM)
discount so much, 99% is 2006 stock

if people can afford 100k++ car, better consider altis/civic ... perdana v6 mostly bought by company for their top management level people...
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n the chassis sweat.gif ..power-to weight ratio sweat.gif ..means high FC for nothing.
in comparision..my cousin bro altis 1.8(15sen/km) non modd is almost same FC like my bro myvi EZ 1.3(13sen/km).

y not get a car like altis/civic tat worth every sen u spent? rite..IF u can afford it..lol

bac to topic..i plan to hv a vios too, but not too soon still saving to pump my dpayment.
is there better car beside vios?i mean same class

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 23 2007, 04:17 PM)
Well, Toyota cars' suspension setup is design to be more on the comfort side if you were to compare to Honda. So no doubt, Toyota is very comfortable. Just like how you compare Vios to City and Yaris to Jazz. The Toyota's' and Honda's' have similar suspension layout as Machperson Strut for the front and Torsion Beam for the rear. On paper they are the same but on reality, the Honda is stiffer hence better handling but not as comfort as the Toyota when come to potholes, uneven roads and highway cruising. Same goes to if you compare the Camry with Accord. The Honda has newer, innovative and creative interior and gadgets/technology on their latest/new model. While Toyota's being the rather conventional but reliable, simplicity and durable/comfort.

It all boils down what you want and your requirements and personal taste on certain looks and design. smile.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 04:27 PM)
u think RM100k can buy ferrari/Lamborgini ? if can i can buy from u....by cash....
u can not compare with the 2000cc car with the 4000cc...
use RM80k++ to buy a car like soft toy for wat purpose....
y not looking for better...
i dun think a guy can buy a vios will dun have money for other choose....
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i am using my "soft toy" day in day out loh...
this "soft toy" carry me to wherever i summon it loh...
this "soft toy" oso protect me & family from rain during on the road loh...
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wat for... for all the reason i mention above loh... BTW, i still very "syok sendiri" about the "soft toy" loh...

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Why not choose city VTEC? much more spacious
cheaper than vios biggrin.gif

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80k worth of a car called it soft toy? then iswara is paper toy? kancil is jelly toy? haha lol..

not everyone can afford euroNCAP 5-star car ler.
cakap pan-nai la..
toyota purposely make it lighter cos to reduce FC mar.

city cheaper than vios mer??? rclxub.gif

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I think that guy post here purposely wanna get flame lo.

Where in the world you think spending 80k is consider cheap toy..SAVVY also got those german awards for being some tough nut also less than 80k ler.
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from wat i know...the weight of myvi is almost same like vios...
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Will the middle placement of instrument panel give us "mata ayam"? hehe...

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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 23 2007, 09:22 PM)
I finally get what this fella meaning, since i felt this fella dont really like small cars like the vios and the city (although the city is spacious for a 1.5cc car) he wanted to advice that its wiser to spend on bigger and more established models like the civic and the corolla.

Well dude, times has changed, small cars like vios and city has got better acceptance and seriously u need to read and write more on english man. sweat.gif

Also i dont agree on you saying that ppl who can afford a vios can afford a better car. That shows inmaturity of u. shakehead.gif
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Yeah agreed. We don't buy Myvis or Citys or Vioses becos we really love them (regardless of how often you hear owners saying "I love my Myvi"), it's becos we consider them the best car for our budget.

Mr liewseng, if someone has RM200K car budget and he buys a Myvi, then you can bash.
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Mr liewseng, if someone has RM200K car budget and he buys a Myvi, then you can bash.
No, he doesnt have the right to bash anyone if he/she is a billionaire and satisfied to commute around even with a "kap chai" bike around. It's his money and his own right, who are we to judge on how ppl spend their money? Since our threadstarter here already mention Vios as a basic guideline for us to discuss, then stick to it and give reasonable comment or recommendation on other cars that still cost the same. smile.gif

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He deserves it...he thinks everyone is as rich as him; wanna buy car must spend 100k above. Seriously its absurd
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 23 2007, 08:29 PM)
Exactly, i just hate their management. If not due to protection, they should have produce better cars for the malaysians much way earlier. Should have revamp the whole management in their company. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 23 2007, 09:56 PM)
discount so much, 99% is 2006 stock

if people can afford 100k++ car, better consider altis/civic ... perdana v6 mostly bought by company for their top management level people...
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 23 2007, 10:22 PM)
I finally get what this fella meaning, since i felt this fella dont really like small cars like the vios and the city (although the city is spacious for a 1.5cc car) he wanted to advice that its wiser to spend on bigger and more established models like the civic and the corolla.

Well dude, times has changed, small cars like vios and city has got better acceptance and seriously u need to read and write more on english man. sweat.gif

Also i dont agree on you saying that ppl who can afford a vios can afford a better car. That shows inmaturity of u. shakehead.gif
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woah, brother travis, you really take his post, sit down and meditate until you get the meaning ar?
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that fella is a noob la.... ignore jer...
he will go away...

QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 24 2007, 11:04 AM)
No, he doesnt have the right to bash anyone if he/she is a billionaire and satisfied to commute around even with a "kap chai" bike around. It's his money and his own right, who are we to judge on how ppl spend their money? Since our threadstarter here already mention Vios as a basic guideline for us to discuss, then stick to it and give reasonable comment or recommendation on other cars that still cost the same. smile.gif
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well said gouki. its our/your money, you can buy whatever car or bikes as you wish. we just give our views only but at the end of the day, you will decide.
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 24 2007, 11:07 AM)
He deserves it...he thinks everyone is as rich as him; wanna buy car must spend 100k above. Seriously its absurd
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 23 2007, 06:49 PM)
Meaning cars that cost less than RM100k and have a 4 stars rating in Euro NCAP are soft toy to him. tongue.gif
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all the start will just use money to paid......
y i say this is soft toy...bcos i friend drive vios was hit by wira.....then the car damage a lot and the wira just brumper and the head lamp damage....
this is wat i say "soft toy".

the price for the car performance, interior, and stable is not match....

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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 12:35 PM)
all the start will just use money to paid......
y i say this is soft toy...bcos i friend drive vios was hit by wira.....then the car damage a lot and the wira just brumper and the head lamp damage....
this is wat i say "soft toy".

the price for the car performance, interior, and stable is not match....
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Duh, if say a kancil/iswara has similiar damage, u call that a soft toy as well? doh.gif

The vios car perfomance is adequent and economical, but i agree that the interior is something less to be desired. On the price coz u stay in Bolehland where car taxes were ridiculous there nothing u can do.

Maybe the waja might suit u but dono will u get satisfied or not,or could be yet another "fisher price" car for u sweat.gif
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 24 2007, 12:45 PM)
Duh, if say a kancil/iswara has similiar damage, u call that a soft toy as well? doh.gif

The vios car perfomance is adequent and economical, but i agree that the interior is something less to be desired. On the price coz u stay in Bolehland where car taxes were ridiculous there nothing u can do.

Maybe the waja might suit u but dono will u get satisfied or not,or could be yet another "fisher price" car for u sweat.gif
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then i ask u how much for a kancil ? how much for a iswara ?
if really got money y not really looking for better...
maybe from the start i did not say clearly....sorry from here..
my budget start from RM100k sure will not up to RM199k lah.( I also a very poor guy)
but within RM120k u can buy many good car...like ford focus, honda civic, mazda 3 and so many....
myself also got myvi....but i did not complain for the myvi.... i love this car so much...
y i i dun like the car like city, jazz and vios bcos of the car value is not match for the money that we pay....
that all i wan to say....
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 12:35 PM)
all the start will just use money to paid......
y i say this is soft toy...bcos i friend drive vios was hit by wira.....then the car damage a lot and the wira just brumper and the head lamp damage....
this is wat i say "soft toy".

the price for the car performance, interior, and stable is not match....
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Ah, i really have to read it and comprehend the chinese educated way in your writing. Nvm. You have my respect for not giving up easily.

You see, your friend's Vios damage is very subjective. Where did the Wira hit the Vios? Side of Vios? And normally the car that take the hit receive more damage/impact due to energy transfer. So are you trying to say the Wira is stronger than the Vios? It could be the same if the car that being hit is a Civic/Altis/Camry/Accord.

I owned a Wira before and i have to say its very fragile car. The Vios is far more stronger as a "soft toy" than the Wira.

Price for the car performance, interior and stable does not match? In what way? What make you think the bigger car like Altis/Sentra/Civic match it's price then? Cheers.
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 12:51 PM)
then i ask u how much for a kancil ? how much for a iswara ?
if really got money y not really looking for better...
maybe from the start i did not say clearly....sorry from here..
my budget start from RM100k sure will not up to RM199k lah.( I also a very poor guy)
but within RM120k u can buy many good car...like ford focus, honda civic, mazda 3 and so many....
myself also got myvi....but i did not complain for the myvi.... i love this car so much...
y i i dun like the car like city, jazz and vios bcos of the car value is not match for the money that we pay....
that all i wan to say....
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You still dont get it dont you? RM80k+ for a City/Vios/Swift and etc compare to RM120k is not a big difference?
Your myvi also doesnt match the price you are paying for what. For the same price i would go for a Satria Neo which is more powerful and better handling and looks way better. Can you compare that way? I dont like myvi. I think it's ugly. Sorry to say. It's my personal view. But i have to admit it's a practical car. smile.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 12:51 PM)
then i ask u how much for a kancil ? how much for a iswara ?
if really got money y not really looking for better...
maybe from the start i did not say clearly....sorry from here..
my budget start from RM100k sure will not up to RM199k lah.( I also a very poor guy)
but within RM120k u can buy many good car...like ford focus, honda civic, mazda 3 and so many....
myself also got myvi....but i did not complain for the myvi.... i love this car so much...
y i i dun like the car like city, jazz and vios bcos of the car value is not match for the money that we pay....
that all i wan to say....
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So your saying that Myvi is suitable for range of RM40k?
And city,jazz and vios doesn't belong in the range of 80-100k?

In terms of performance wise, those mid-range cars can tapao myvi anytime.
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 24 2007, 12:51 PM)
Ah, i really have to read it and comprehend the chinese educated way in your writing. Nvm. You have my respect for not giving up easily.

You see, your friend's Vios damage is very subjective. Where did the Wira hit the Vios? Side of Vios? And normally the car that take the hit receive more damage/impact due to energy transfer. So are you trying to say the Wira is stronger than the Vios? It could be the same if the car that being hit is a Civic/Altis/Camry/Accord.

I owned a Wira before and i have to say its very fragile car. The Vios is far more stronger as a "soft toy" than the Wira.

Price for the car performance, interior and stable does not match? In what way? What make you think the bigger car like Altis/Sentra/Civic match it's price then? Cheers.
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so sorry for my english.....i like to speak in "chinese" english...even i can typr chinese inside....just some of the banana dunno chinese....but i respect to the forum..

the car crash that i mention sure is wira front hit the vios backside...

did u try before for the altis/sentra/civic....goto do the test drive at the same time with the vios and altis, city and civic...then u will know... no need me to say so much...bcos i not a car salesman.... cool.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 23 2007, 11:27 AM)
waste money to buy this kind of stupid car...
like honda city, jazz and toyota vois....
all car also save fuel just look at how u drive the car...
dun waste money...
save more money for other car....maybe can try civic, mazda 3 or some car that start from the 100k one..
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Excuse me, for being "stupid". My wife drives a CITY and my Mom drives a VIOS.
Both cars also fell under your "stupid" category. Are you also implying that people who drives/own those "stupid" cars are "stupid"? If yes, then problably you should stay off the road because plenty of "stupid" people are driving "stupid" cars in a "stupid" way.

What do you mean by save more money to buy civic, mazda 3 or some other "smart" cars? When you save up enough money to buy civic or mazda 3, would you then also suggest them to save up more money to buy accord or mazda 6? By then you would also probably come up with a new category of "stupid" cars?

You can't really compare civic, mazda 3 with jazz/city/vios. It is totally in a different category and pricing all together. Everybody loves a "smart" car but what is our affordability level? If you are born with a silver spoon, then of course those "smart" cars are made available to you easily...

As in regard to the "soft toy", there is a lot factor we have to take into account to ascertain a car is a "soft toy". For instance, what was the travelling speed of the "soft toy" and wira just before the accident?

Information for the threadstarter, VIOS is a good car, it is even better if that is your very first car despite falling into the "stupid" category.

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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:15 PM)
so sorry for my english.....i like to speak in "chinese" english...even i can typr chinese inside....just some of the banana dunno chinese....but i respect to the forum..

the car crash that i mention sure is wira front hit the vios backside...

did u try before for the altis/sentra/civic....goto do the test drive at the same time with the vios and altis, city and civic...then u will know... no need me to say so much...bcos i not a car salesman.... cool.gif
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if it is a frontal and rear crash then both cars are hitting the crumple zone!!! so the worse the crash looks the higher survival rate u have got...

and one more thing liewseng, try to compare cars in the price range, say 80-95K, not civic or altis!!! the threadstater alredy had stated his intended price range and if u think this car is stupid! then i think u have not driven that many cars b4. some of us cannot afford cars in that range, so dont flame or criticise those cars. at least its hard earned money that bought it

talking about the vios.... its a great car, quite good quality, but not the best value for money in the price range in my opinion... i think its the swift that is the best in the range... just my 2C

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Sometimes the crash very hard to say because lets say the wira is lowered...and the vios behind is high then the dmg would be different now wouldn't it...
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 24 2007, 01:05 PM)
So your saying that Myvi is suitable for range of RM40k?
And city,jazz and vios doesn't belong in the range of 80-100k?

In terms of performance wise, those mid-range cars can tapao myvi anytime.
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sure or not for the vios and city can easy tapao myvi ?
jazz i know is hard for myvi.. everytime just got smoked..
if i put more 5k for the myvi performance...then vios? city ? jazz ?
nothng to say....
if i rude....here to say sorry for all the forumer....
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:15 PM)
so sorry for my english.....i like to speak in "chinese" english...even i can typr chinese inside....just some of the banana dunno chinese....but i respect to the forum..

the car crash that i mention sure is wira front hit the vios backside...

did u try before for the altis/sentra/civic....goto do the test drive at the same time with the vios and altis, city and civic...then u will know... no need me to say so much...bcos i not a car salesman.... cool.gif
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Do you get what i mean? I have driven most of the cars in that price range before. But the price of RM20k difference is a lot. smile.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:20 PM)
sure or not for the vios and city can easy tapao myvi ?
jazz i know is hard for myvi.. everytime just got smoked..
if i put more 5k for the myvi performance...then vios? city ? jazz ?
nothng to say....
if i rude....here to say sorry for all the forumer....
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so if my gen2 can tapau an evo in a stright line after spending 15K worth of mods does that make my car beter than an evo??
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 24 2007, 01:23 PM)
Do you get what i mean? I have driven most of the cars in that price range before. But the price of RM20k difference is a lot.  smile.gif
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i know that i just gv comment and i did not force the ppl must buy the car more than RM100k....

but anywhere so happy to hear u all comment for the post that i reply...

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QUOTE(pacer @ Jan 24 2007, 01:25 PM)
so if my gen2 can tapau an evo in a stright line after spending 15K worth of mods  does that make my car beter than an evo??
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just look how u mod yr car...
gen2 is not bad...
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:20 PM)
sure or not for the vios and city can easy tapao myvi ?
jazz i know is hard for myvi.. everytime just got smoked..
if i put more 5k for the myvi performance...then vios? city ? jazz ?
nothng to say....
if i rude....here to say sorry for all the forumer....
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OMG, you wanna compare a modded MyVi with stock Jazz/City/Vios?
And yes, not only Jazz but City and Vios can tapau your MyVi anytime.
Even my sister's Neo auto can tapau your Myvi anytime.

No, you should be sorry for your blind and baseless comment and your mentality. smile.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:35 PM)
all the start will just use money to paid......
y i say this is soft toy...bcos i friend drive vios was hit by wira.....then the car damage a lot and the wira just brumper and the head lamp damage....
this is wat i say "soft toy".

the price for the car performance, interior, and stable is not match....
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it depends too, i have seen a city suffer more damage kissing a kancil backside before...
so the amount of damage dish out and suffered is actually subjective, like gouki said, how it happen, where it happen and factors like that.

QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:51 PM)
then i ask u how much for a kancil ? how much for a iswara ?
if really got money y not really looking for better...
maybe from the start i did not say clearly....sorry from here..
my budget start from RM100k sure will not up to RM199k lah.( I also a very poor guy)
but within RM120k u can buy many good car...like ford focus, honda civic, mazda 3 and so many....
myself also got myvi....but i did not complain for the myvi.... i love this car so much...
y i i dun like the car like city, jazz and vios bcos of the car value is not match for the money that we pay....
that all i wan to say....
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just get what u think its worth for your money then. same goes to everyone here.

QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 24 2007, 02:05 PM)
So your saying that Myvi is suitable for range of RM40k?
And city,jazz and vios doesn't belong in the range of 80-100k?

In terms of performance wise, those mid-range cars can tapao myvi anytime.
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and my bm-x can tapao your evo.
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QUOTE(fan_cheong @ Jan 24 2007, 02:18 PM)
Excuse me, for being "stupid". My wife drives a CITY and my Mom drives a VIOS.
Both cars also fell under your "stupid" category. Are you also implying that people who drives/own those "stupid" cars are "stupid"? If yes, then problably you should stay off the road because plenty of "stupid" people are driving "stupid" cars in a "stupid" way.

What do you mean by save more money to buy civic, mazda 3 or some other "smart" cars? When you save up enough money to buy civic or mazda 3, would you then also suggest them to save up more money to buy accord or mazda 6? By then you would also probably come up with a new category of "stupid" cars?

You can't really compare civic, mazda 3 with jazz/city/vios. It is totally in a different category and pricing all together. Everybody loves a "smart" car but what is our affordability level? If you are born with a silver spoon, then of course those "smart" cars are made available to you easily...

As in regard to the "soft toy", there is a lot factor we have to take into account to ascertain a car is a "soft toy". For instance, what was the travelling speed of the "soft toy" and wira just before the accident?

Information for the threadstarter, VIOS is a good car, it is even better if that is your very first car despite falling into the "stupid" category.
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liewseng explained himself already. so dont you think your reply came too late?
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 24 2007, 01:29 PM)
OMG, you wanna compare a modded MyVi with stock Jazz/City/Vios?
And yes, not only Jazz but City and Vios can tapau your MyVi anytime.
Even my sister's Neo auto can tapau your Myvi anytime.

No, you should be sorry for your blind and baseless comment and your mentality. smile.gif
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so sorry i dun think yr car and yr sister neo can tapao my myvi...bcos my myvi is not stock car(YRV turbo) rclxm9.gif ...so sorry for u take care my blind and baseless comment and my mentality.( did i need to visit doc) cool.gif



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one more note, dont complain about the taxes on the cars here.

you dont like the taxes, vote the opposition or migrate.
no balls to vote the opposition? then dont complain.
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walk the talk.

you want a BMW? then work hard and save for it.
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 02:35 PM)
so sorry i dun think yr car and yr sister neo can tapao my myvi...bcos my myvi is not stock car(YRV turbo)  rclxm9.gif ...so sorry for u take care my blind and baseless comment and my mentality.( did i need to visit doc) cool.gif
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dude, you just open the floodgates..

i will just leave gouki to settle you
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 24 2007, 01:29 PM)
OMG, you wanna compare a modded MyVi with stock Jazz/City/Vios?
And yes, not only Jazz but City and Vios can tapau your MyVi anytime.
Even my sister's Neo auto can tapau your Myvi anytime.

No, you should be sorry for your blind and baseless comment and your mentality. smile.gif
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I am not sure about Neo but I am pretty sure the cars that Gouki mentioned can smoke standard MYVI all the time.
Liewseng, calm down and think first before commenting.
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:33 PM)
it depends too, i have seen a city suffer more damage kissing a kancil backside before...
so the amount of damage dish out and suffered is actually subjective, like gouki said, how it happen, where it happen and factors like that.
just get what u think its worth for your money then. same goes to everyone here.
and my bm-x can tapao your evo.
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liewseng explained himself already. so dont you think your reply came too late?
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All apologies, posted late because connection down but still damn bloody pissed about that "stupid" statement. I paid for the car with my hard earned money.
Again, I don't mean to offend anyone. All apologies.
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OMG this is getting off topic already.
But seriously liewseng you need to know the meaning of

"WHAT YOU PAY IS WHAT YOU GET"

If the TS decides whether vios is good...means he is ready to pay for that amount. Please don't provoke him by saying why buy a stupid soft-toy car and buy a 100k car instead.

And seriously dude, don't compare a modified version and a stock car.
Its like comparing apples and oranges, if lets say you wanna compare a modded myvi and a modded city/jazz/vios, it still tapao yours anytime man.
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:35 PM)
one more note, dont complain about the taxes on the cars here.

you dont like the taxes, vote the opposition or migrate.
no balls to vote the opposition? then dont complain.
smile.gif

walk the talk.

you want a BMW? then work hard and save for it.
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Totally agree with you on this matter. There is just too many people complaining about the taxes on cars. Just make do with what you can afford!
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as a owner of Vios, yah, I do agree we pay a bit extra for the car.. and the reason why I willing to pay the extra because I know the car is very much problem free and I love the car.. been using it for > a year, my car never fail me one.. not even in a small cosmetic part like this rubber drop off, that power window not function etc..


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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 24 2007, 01:48 PM)
as a owner of Vios, yah, I do agree we pay a bit extra for the car.. and the reason why I willing to pay the extra because I know the car is very much problem free and I love the car..  been using it for > a year, my car never fail me one.. not even in a small cosmetic part like this rubber drop off, that power window not function etc..
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agree.. not all car give u problem. its very subjective and depends to your luck as well. but if the TS want to get this car, its worth it. if u can afford it, just go for it. tepuk dada, tanya selera.. me myself bought this car becoz dont like the look of honda city. depends on your taste.. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:35 PM)
so sorry i dun think yr car and yr sister neo can tapao my myvi...bcos my myvi is not stock car(YRV turbo)  rclxm9.gif ...so sorry for u take care my blind and baseless comment and my mentality.( did i need to visit doc) cool.gif
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Oppss, sorry. I forgot to tell you that my car aint stock as well. K20A inside. blush.gif

QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:36 PM)
dude, you just open the floodgates..

i will just leave gouki to settle you
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Yalor going off topic already.
Thanks to liewseng who said that spending 80k is a soft-toy and also his modded myvi can tapao stock car. =.='
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QUOTE(fan_cheong @ Jan 24 2007, 02:40 PM)
All apologies, posted late because connection down but still damn bloody pissed about that "stupid" statement. I paid for the car with my hard earned money.
Again, I don't mean to offend anyone. All apologies.
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lol
its ok....

QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 24 2007, 02:48 PM)
as a owner of Vios, yah, I do agree we pay a bit extra for the car.. and the reason why I willing to pay the extra because I know the car is very much problem free and I love the car..  been using it for > a year, my car never fail me one.. not even in a small cosmetic part like this rubber drop off, that power window not function etc..
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read this forumer reply below

QUOTE(giggs_509 @ Jan 24 2007, 02:53 PM)
agree.. not all car give u problem. its very subjective and depends to your luck as well. but if the TS want to get this car, its worth it. if u can afford it, just go for it. tepuk dada, tanya selera..  me myself bought this car becoz dont like the look of honda city. depends on your taste.. notworthy.gif
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agree. getting a good car or not is still kinda like luck. if it fail or rosak, it will. if it wont, then it wont.
proton, toyota, honda, bmw, it will still fail. see you are the "chosen one" or not only lor
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 24 2007, 03:13 PM)
from "I'll buy Vios G, Any advice for me not to" to can this car tapau that car or not shakehead.gif
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lol
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 24 2007, 02:16 PM)
Yalor going off topic already.
Thanks to liewseng who said that spending 80k is a soft-toy and also his modded myvi can tapao stock car. =.='
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sorry loh....

actually vios is quite good lah...if really wan better look for the 1.5G....
that got ABS....his is quite helpful for the system braking specially in the rain day...
although price got a bit lari from the E spec
stil support u to buy the G spec....
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:35 PM)
so sorry i dun think yr car and yr sister neo can tapao my myvi...bcos my myvi is not stock car(YRV turbo)  rclxm9.gif ...so sorry for u take care my blind and baseless comment and my mentality.( did i need to visit doc) cool.gif
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hei visit the myvi thread lah since u also an myvi owner. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 24 2007, 01:48 PM)
as a owner of Vios, yah, I do agree we pay a bit extra for the car.. and the reason why I willing to pay the extra because I know the car is very much problem free and I love the car..  been using it for > a year, my car never fail me one.. not even in a small cosmetic part like this rubber drop off, that power window not function etc..
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Well said froma true vios owner smile.gif

QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 02:23 PM)
sorry loh....

actually vios is quite good lah...if really wan better look for the 1.5G....
that got ABS....his is quite helpful for the system braking specially in the rain day...
although price got a bit lari from the E spec
stil support u to buy the G spec....
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What da hell suddenly he support back vios? sweat.gif

[offtopic] - Can we talk more about YRV??? drool.gif , pls come to our myvi thread!
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70% of tis thread already skewed to wrong direction

but the 30% of the correct reply on this thread really good

from these 30% reply i can say it's save to get a vios.

i know there will be a totally new replacement for vios tis year or next year but i can't wait for that long to get a car as i dont have car right now. and i will not want to be guinea pig for the new vios.

one things for sure
vios reliable, hassle free
but bit more expensive

city superb, power(vtec) cheap, state of the art feature
but i've seen alot of thread about tis topic that says city has many problem
although ppl says new city cvt dont have problem but there is report saying it still does.

i've driven one city vtec b4 to genting and back hometown for quite a nubmer of time and i will say city vtec is powerful and nice in handling.

But that city has had few problem i notice.

The inner door has few point that are rusted (very small 1x1mm insize. The wiper at when u turn on 1st speed mode it got stuck half way. door rubber fell off (not completely, easyly fix by sliding the in by hand)

finally i think the greatest factor for me to decise to get a vios is, i got a great deal on vios and i can't reveal how much deal that i get






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laiseng,

as i said, proton, bmw, toyota, honda, all cars will surely have some lemon units (problematic, major or minor) among them.

each cars has their pro and cons and also their problems.

if u like the vios, go ahead with it, ask the vios owner here how much will it cost to maintain it, their experience with it and such. i am sure they will help you.

and if u think u get a great deal on vios, go ahead with it. after all at the end of the day, you are buying with your own money and you think you get what its worth for your money.
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Thread Starter, if you are really comfortable with ur allocated budget to get a new vios, go for it!!!

Long Live VIOS!!!

& long live all those "soft toys"!!! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 24 2007, 02:21 PM)
lol
its ok....
read this forumer reply below
agree. getting a good car or not is still kinda like luck. if it fail or rosak, it will. if it wont, then it wont.
proton, toyota, honda, bmw, it will still fail. see you are the "chosen one" or not only lor
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lol
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Sometimes buying a car also need luck. If your luck is good then your car not much problem, if bad luck, even BMW has it's bad day too.
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:33 PM)
it depends too, i have seen a city suffer more damage kissing a kancil backside before...
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Actually, the frontal part of the City is very soft, softer even than Kancil's. If you push hard with your hand, you can see the hood dimple under. The Honda SA also advised buyers not to close the hood by pressing on it with your palms, becos it will 'kemek' fast this way.

But it's still a 4-star car and have better cabin integrity than our local cars.
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TS, no reason for you not to buy the Vios G if you have the budget and need the car now. Otherwise wait for new models smile.gif
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jan 24 2007, 04:35 PM)
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Actually, the frontal part of the City is very soft, softer even than Kancil's.  If you push hard with your hand, you can see the hood dimple under.  The Honda SA also advised buyers not to close the hood by pressing on it with your palms, becos it will 'kemek' fast this way.

But it's still a 4-star car and have better cabin integrity than our local cars.
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TS, no reason for you not to buy the Vios G if you have the budget and need the car now.  Otherwise wait for new models smile.gif
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laiseng, just buy vios G, u wont go wrong with it. just follow your heart, if u are happy with vios then get vios. its a Realiable car, good FC, power also not bad & its a toyota.

This thread sure cause lots of "fire" due to lots of immature replies. Sure people mostly compare vios to city. though i am die hard honda fan, i still vote for vios. city's design bit off for my taste. City's vtec wont really out run vios, anyway both car is mean for family sedan not racing. If those think city's vtec is god like, then try honda's older engine, B16A, B16B or B18C then u will understand city vtec is nothing compare to those real racing engine.

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Wow missed afew hours and now TS had made up his mind already!
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Thanx for all the replies

i've made the order for Vios G spec already


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Congrats!
Maybe when your car arrives you can let us know how you 'actually' feel on it despite the many disputes around. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(liewseng @ Jan 24 2007, 01:20 PM)
sure or not for the vios and city can easy tapao myvi ?
jazz i know is hard for myvi.. everytime just got smoked..
if i put more 5k for the myvi performance...then vios? city ? jazz ?
nothng to say....
if i rude....here to say sorry for all the forumer....
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my bro own a myvi. ish ish ..budak ni..for ur info..my moto kriss can win a myvi in 400m drag lah.
if u know/able/smart/ enuf to spend some time to read the spec sheet of both city/vios..vios hp output is 109hp means waja 1.6 only 110hp...do u get booo.????
the curb weight of the vios is 980kg means same as myvi..
if u know the term of "power-to-weight" ratio is. then TaTa to ur beloved myvi lo. tat "stupid" cars city/vios being smoked by ur Kcar doesnt mean is laoya.. sweat.gif

city ler is vtec engine once attivate. rpm jus like turbo-fly to redline. no need 5k or not 5k to spend on.

ehh..bro ah ko ko chai..my sis kelisa is better in performance la if compare wif myvi.
again power to weight ratio is playing around..sigh..

get a sintific kira-kira machine n tekan-tekan/ raba-raba n see..convert kw to hp ...wat u got in ur k3-ve...n compare.

eh ok la..peace. this is facts. nth u can argue.
car is not good at all if too hard in every corner. die faster ..do u know tat.??
ragid / tough / stable chassis will gain better result. find n understand these terms then u will know.."OOOOOOO" like this hioo..
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QUOTE(laiseng @ Jan 25 2007, 12:02 AM)
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Thanx for all the replies

i've made the order for Vios G spec already
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so what diskaun u get? RM5k?
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jan 25 2007, 01:08 AM)
get a sintific kira-kira machine n tekan-tekan/ raba-raba n see..convert kw to hp ...wat u got in ur k3-ve...n compare.
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he did mention his myvi was converted to k3-vet...
tht's why he thinks he can win...
already mod...
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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 25 2007, 08:20 AM)
so what diskaun u get? RM5k?
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ya i got 5k++ discount for vios 2006, but at 2.8% interest

so i end up ordering the 2007 Vios G

if i vios 2007 at 1.88% interest i only pay extra 1k++ compares to having 5k++ discount (after 7 years of installment)

if i get 2006 car the car already depreciated 10% now so not worth it




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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 25 2007, 12:39 PM)
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he did mention his myvi was converted to k3-vet...
tht's why he thinks he can win...
already mod...
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QUOTE(laiseng @ Jan 25 2007, 08:24 PM)
ya i got 5k++ discount for vios 2006, but at 2.8% interest

so i end up ordering the  2007 Vios G

if i vios 2007 at 1.88% interest i only pay extra 1k++ compares to having 5k++ discount (after 7 years of installment)

if i get 2006 car the car already depreciated 10% now so not worth it
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err..7 years? not long mer? how much u goin to pay instalment if make it 5 years?
mind to tell how much u pay for downpayment? rclxms.gif
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borrowed 70k
at 7yr about 940/month

if 5yr, 1276/month installment
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Wow 7 years also need RM940 a month...
Did you get any discount from them, depending whether you choose the old stock 06' model or you choose the new one 07' batch
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QUOTE(laiseng @ Jan 25 2007, 10:55 PM)
borrowed 70k
at 7yr about 940/month

if 5yr, 1276/month installment
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if can ..push more dpayment. 900/ mth..seems little too much lo..make it 10k or 15k better.
err..goin to buy it in hurry?? if not try save somemore $$$ for dpayment lo thumbup.gif

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he already pay 13k++
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that showed actually buying a new car price at more than 80k is not an easy task, for those who only consider 100k above car is so called "good car" hope ur salary is high enough. if not talking alone wont get u a >100k car tongue.gif
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QUOTE(laiseng @ Jan 25 2007, 10:55 PM)
borrowed 70k
at 7yr about 940/month

if 5yr, 1276/month installment
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wah banyaknya sweat.gif

I only borrowed 55k already sweating like hell sweat.gif

QUOTE(Cahill @ Jan 26 2007, 09:12 AM)
that showed actually buying a new car price at more than 80k is not an easy task, for those who only consider 100k above car is so called "good car" hope ur salary is high enough. if not talking alone wont get u a >100k car  tongue.gif
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Ya.

Actually, 'cock-talking' here can move you somewhere at least in lowyat.net. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(laiseng @ Jan 25 2007, 10:55 PM)
borrowed 70k
at 7yr about 940/month

if 5yr, 1276/month installment
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this way of bank loan is highly not recormended~~~
and the insurance also wont come in cheap...
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7years very tiring...
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 26 2007, 11:45 AM)
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this way of bank loan is highly not recormended~~~
and the insurance also wont come in cheap...
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7years very tiring...
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actually his decision also ok, between RM940 and RM1276 diff RM336 ler. pay bit longer but each month not so stress.
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QUOTE(Cahill @ Jan 26 2007, 12:13 PM)
actually his decision also ok, between RM940 and RM1276 diff RM336 ler. pay bit longer but each month not so stress.
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i mean buying with very low 1st down payment + the sum of loan required 70k...?
i see the figure 940/month also damn scary...
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low d/payment is suicidal ?
but TS made up his/her choice, and its his/her money.
and i respect his/her decision.
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when are you getting your car, TS ?
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actually the TS decision is ok lah... one i would do also if i could afford it

put it this way, if he plans not to sell a minimum of 5 years then he got nothing to worry about if there is no policy change that is...

even after 5 years he sell the car then he can get back quite a bit for his next car's downpayment. i belive the resale value of the vios is quite good
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this thread have turn into finacial management thread pula.. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

different ppl have different kind of $$ management and philosophy.. don't judge ppl by your way.. ur way is right.. and ppl way may not wrong also..

ppl who canbuy the car straigh without instalment still can do the instalment like what thread starter do.. because some people have their own way to invest or need the money to grown their business or whatever...

give your opinion here, but please don't judge ppl methods wrong..

sorry talking too much ya.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Thats kinda true...I recently went to a toyota showroom and the SA told me most of the younger generations choose 7-8 years of loan...
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 26 2007, 04:08 PM)
Thats kinda true...I recently went to a toyota showroom and the SA told me most of the younger generations choose 7-8 years of loan...
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younger generation will take longer loan because they want to look good straight,
meaning something like to tell their peers, hey look, you are driving a proton, and i am drving a toyota, so i am better then you those type of mentality.

but anyway its their choice, life and money, so wat they buy anything they want and whatever debt that they accumulate is theirs.


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i'm willing to spend that money not because toyota reflect my identity but i want a reliable car.
i dont even care what the car color is what the plate number is or the looks of the car. as long as it's stable, and i enjoy driving it.

i've been considering all cars for many month already

toyota is well known for it's reliability (ofcause there is some special cases)



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actually just look u can affort or not !! if very hard for yrself for 5 year then better that 7 year...
like me now all the money pay for my car each month already half of my salary. (2nd WRX ver8 / 7years)
every month very pening kepala for the money .
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 26 2007, 01:48 PM)
low d/payment is suicidal ?
but TS made up his/her choice, and its his/her money.
and i respect his/her decision.
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when are you getting your car, TS ?
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not suicide..jus err..kinda heavy load ..jus ok is great jus make sure u can cover all the expenses like insurance/ road tax / maintanenace / n of cos petrol.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

eehh..laiseng do write a review when ur car is received ler.. rclxm9.gif



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there is laiseng and liewseng
both also september but one is 05 and one more is 06
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 26 2007, 11:07 PM)
there is laiseng and liewseng
both also september but one is 05 and one more is 06
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hahaha... i oso confuse at the begining... or until now i still confuse... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ltw82 @ Jan 26 2007, 12:48 PM)
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i mean buying with very low 1st down payment + the sum of loan required 70k...?
i see the figure 940/month also damn scary...
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It's ok lah, with the kind of interest Vios has (1.88% or something), paying low downpayment may be good thing as well. If I have 70K, maybe I'd rather put 10K as downpayment and the other 60K into FD and earn 3.5% interest, can cover the HP loan already.

Or is my calculation wrong?
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jan 26 2007, 11:46 PM)
It's ok lah, with the kind of interest Vios has (1.88% or something), paying low downpayment may be good thing as well.  If I have 70K, maybe I'd rather put 10K as downpayment and the other 60K into FD and earn 3.5% interest, can cover the HP loan already.

Or is my calculation wrong?
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theoritically, that is more & less correct. All depends on a person's financial status...
but i do believe commonly people will not do so... given the amount you mentioned, at least they will down payment more... say 20k... smile.gif
logically, no one will let himself in debt any longer than he wanted... further more he actually has the required sum to settle the debt?
having any kind of loan is actually having an invisible type of mind pressure...

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 26 2007, 04:42 PM)
younger generation will take longer loan because they want to look good straight,
meaning something like to tell their peers, hey look, you are driving a proton, and i am drving a toyota, so i am better then you those type of mentality.

but anyway its their choice, life and money, so wat they buy anything they want and whatever debt that they accumulate is theirs.
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Thats so true...its sad though the way younger generations now want to look in their best form trying to be something they can't.
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 27 2007, 12:24 AM)
Thats so true...its sad though the way younger generations now want to look in their best form trying to be something they can't.
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well, younger people tend to pursue "glamour" & tend to be more on the "kia su" side... commonly, they are willing to push their financial power to the extreme... smile.gif

everyone who are older & more mature by now were young before & should understand the mentality back then...

young & fearless... haha...
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jan 27 2007, 12:46 AM)
It's ok lah, with the kind of interest Vios has (1.88% or something), paying low downpayment may be good thing as well.  If I have 70K, maybe I'd rather put 10K as downpayment and the other 60K into FD and earn 3.5% interest, can cover the HP loan already.

Or is my calculation wrong?
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usually if someone has that kind of money (70k), it would be best to just pay the car off straight.

example, vios 70k, repayment 5 years, the total after 5 years including interest should be 80k more or less.... so why let the bank earn? might as well pay it off there and then itself and you can start saving for your FD knowing full well the car is completely paid for. less one commitment no?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 27 2007, 08:49 AM)
usually if someone has that kind of money (70k), it would be best to just pay the car off straight.

example, vios 70k, repayment 5 years, the total after 5 years including interest should be 80k more or less.... so why let the bank earn? might as well pay it off there and then itself and you can start saving for your FD knowing full well the car is completely paid for. less one commitment no?
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er..2 years even got 70k amount of money. if mar kena tax kaw kaw. rite sweat.gif
2 yrs interest abit to tutup ppl eyes mar.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jan 27 2007, 01:07 PM)
er..2 years even got 70k amount of  money. if mar kena tax kaw kaw. rite sweat.gif
2 yrs interest abit to tutup ppl eyes mar.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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ahaha ok ok
doesn't meant that if u got 70k cash, you will sure to kena tax...
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but respect your views tho.
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Hahaha smart thinking yeah usually people don't pay one lumsum la...unless you tak takut those income tax look for you.
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:08 PM)
Hahaha smart thinking yeah usually people don't pay one lumsum la...unless you tak takut those income tax look for you.
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is depend larr..

let say ur bank only got 70k, u use 70k to buy a car and left 0, stupid enough...

but if ur bank got 200k, use 70k to buy a car is reasonable...

 

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