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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) VI, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Sep 26 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(??!! @ Sep 26 2016, 02:31 PM)
The durian runtuh 2 kali untuk anda.
You are a blessed person rclxms.gif
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Wait till next week. See if can get more FP units ! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(??!! @ Sep 26 2016, 02:48 PM)
5. But done in 10 transactions.
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High 5 !! Or 6 ?? Give chance to some of us. devil.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(??!! @ Sep 26 2016, 03:17 PM)
Aku ikan bilis aje.

Luck/timing and a helpful staff help lots .
Some days , i get 0 for the whole week  bangwall.gif

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Auntie ikan besar ! notworthy.gif Persistent ! thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 26 2016, 04:31 PM)
lucky I already stop temporarily..

next year only think  smile.gif

good luck those hunting on 4/10  devil.gif
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TQIA ! whistling.gif

Have to plan my strategy for 4/10. What to do, terminate FD, RENTAS over, buy buy then place FD juga. Few banks to go to ! Then 5/10 MBB again ! Wa, too much work to do ! tongue.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 26 2016, 05:09 PM)
well u want higher rate than FD, u needed to work a bit harder  smile.gif  whistling.gif

if lazy, then FD promo only lor  dry.gif
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Instead of money work for us. We have to work for the money ! mega_shok.gif laugh.gif

Still placing for FD juga. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 26 2016, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 26 2016, 05:15 PM)
sure needed to place in FD, because your amount is TOO BIG  biggrin.gif

ASx cannot fill up your bullets  devil.gif  laugh.gif  whistling.gif
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Not too big, just big enough for me. biggrin.gif

Have been adjusting the figure upwards for ASNB FP, lowering amt for FD. Hopefully by 4/10, not all for the FP ! devil.gif

QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 26 2016, 05:21 PM)
My 2 months of ' merry go round' few banks, multiple trips/ day now are paying off 1 by one on dividend date. biggrin.gif
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Next week may have to go to the banks few days if cannot finish the dough in hand within 1 day for the FP funds. But lazy me will not do so many trips in 1 day. whistling.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 05:47 PM

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How was it like ? For AS1M, some may sell on the first day say 4/10 and some may sell over the following few days ? But for other FP,may be difficult to get, just have to try. Planning to buy say x00k units within few days.
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post Sep 26 2016, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 26 2016, 05:53 PM)
Just bring your 3 passbooks and ask the teller to try on any of it if you have no special preferences or limit set/ book.
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I think will try AS1M first with larger amt. Then the other 2 books. Assuming some people will sell after receiving dividends. May have to lower down my expectation if cannot get the x00k units within few days. Just move to 4% FD. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 26 2016, 06:08 PM)
Glad, my 'hunting' days are officially over. Scary, thinking of the stiffer competition now with lowered OPR.
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I am trying to settle my target in Oct, if not by Nov. Then like auntie, just watching the dividends coming in. cheers.gif

Anyway I think the pie is big enough for all to share. biggrin.gif

Also trying to see any retail bonds that I can buy.

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post Sep 26 2016, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(??!! @ Sep 26 2016, 09:40 PM)
PB is of no help to me when it comes to ASX. The one bank which is an agent bank, totally not interested to deal with ASx. PB jump Q no apply to ASx  cry.gif Other PB not agent banks. Nasib baik got NICE teller helping me heaps smile.gif

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Kind of wary of Bonds...increased risk of default during these turbulent times for relatively low returns.

Hmmm... Metals?? Oil Palm??
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Some people just simply say about PB. Don't see how it will help. RM not interested in ASNB UT more over FP. Affin no PB program.

Bond wise have to choose carefully. Starting to learn. Have asked @guy3288 and he has given me some info. Last time told RM just interested with FD. Have checked with CIMB RM on bonds issued by banks. She told me about CIMB one with return 5.8% but have to check other hidden costs.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 26 2016, 09:47 PM)
UHNWI plan to top up x00k  notworthy.gif
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x=1, can ? devil.gif

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post Sep 27 2016, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 26 2016, 10:47 PM)
Multiple x overtime sure can  smile.gif
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The x may even be 0.1 ........0.9. Tricky maths. cool2.gif
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post Sep 27 2016, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 27 2016, 08:59 AM)
Below is the plus points:-
1. special numbers instead of normal q to wait for your turn
2. teller will attend to your request for multiple attempts instead of 1 or 2 ony
3. etc...
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But some banks has fixed counter for ASNB purchase, right ? Some may just be no queue number needed (like HL PB), some may just be queue button for PB customer etc. So may not work for some banks.

Like Affin has no PB program. I was thinking of using Affin as they seems to be more helpful on this ASNB FP. CIMB is another one which I has RM. AmBank (just started on ASNB) RM told me they are not really interested in doing ASNB funds.

I think more important is the relationship with the people in the bank. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 27 2016, 09:24 AM)
Those Banks with PB, u can leverage on both PB status n relationship
Those Banks w/o PB, depend on relationship ony
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I guess I would not leverage too much on this PB. Affin branch already know me pretty well. No PB program there. But treated rather well there. Too much deposit there when they have the 4.5% FD. Should have moved some to ASNB FP fund if I have known it earlier. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 27 2016, 02:49 PM)
what is the point? the other funds most likely will follow the benchmark
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 27 2016, 03:09 PM)
Most likely that will happen, but having said that.. Others funds also could follow the rate..

So in the end, no use also..
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Going forward, other funds may have similar or even lower performance. The 6.1% still considered to be good in today's climate. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 27 2016, 08:25 PM

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Just for my info, what was the declared dividend for ASW in Aug 2016 ?

From the past history, ASW is just slightly lower than AS1M. Maybe except this year.

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post Sep 27 2016, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 27 2016, 10:14 PM)
Spot on  rclxms.gif
UHNWI bz searching for investments
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Agreed UHNWI ! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 27 2016, 10:25 PM)
Selalu UHNWI la...HNWI la...

How are they categorized? Last I checked...very high requirement le...🤔
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So admit to be HNWI or UHNWI ? brows.gif
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post Sep 27 2016, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 27 2016, 08:40 PM)
ASW2020
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.70
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.40
2016 - 6.30

ASM
2009 - 6.25
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.38
2012 - 6.80
2013 - 6.50
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.60
2016 - 6.30

AS1M
2010 - 6.38
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80
2014 - 6.60
2015 - 6.40
2016 - 6.10
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 27 2016, 11:07 PM)
I'm a bit disappointed initially
Having said tat, still can tolerate as returns above 6%
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I think still good enough. Not just from FD standpoint but even compared with other UT, bonds, FRNID/Klibor (5% that I mentioned yesterday) etc. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 28 2016, 07:13 AM)
HNWI - financial assets more than USD1 mil
VHNWI - more than USD5 mil
UHNWI - more than USD30 mil
Sub-HNWI - USD100k to USD1 mil

So easy meh
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I only know HNWI and UHNWI. U research so much. OK, VHNWI ? devil.gif
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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 28 2016, 09:30 AM)
Not qualified also 😓
Just type Wikipedia 😁
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OK, HNWI ! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(you90 @ Sep 28 2016, 09:58 AM)
Wow, it requires a lots of patience to open a new acc in ASNB Shah Alam, hmm, wonder I can even do it during office hours  blink.gif

I will try on 4 Oct then, if cannot open a new account, then I will choose to top up AS1M je la.

Yes well said, as long it is above FD, I am thankful too!  laugh.gif
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I was non believer before. Turned back by RHB and MBB few times, said cannot open new acct. But I was able to open all 3 FP acct with single try.

So go and try it out as some of the sifu suggested. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 28 2016, 10:20 AM)
Boss, give chance to small fly to top up 1st  sweat.gif
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The pie is huge enough to take care of all. I just taking a tiny bite. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2016, 11:20 AM)
Only know HNWI & UHNWI..
Others I don't know blush.gif

BTW this for US, how about Malaysia standard??
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Ya, learned something new of the definition.

Malaysia wise, don't think there is one. hmm.gif Cannot use RM to replace the USD ? laugh.gif Many would have got "upgrades". devil.gif

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post Sep 28 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 28 2016, 07:13 AM)
HNWI - financial assets more than USD1 mil
VHNWI - more than USD5 mil
UHNWI - more than USD30 mil
Sub-HNWI - USD100k to USD1 mil

So easy meh
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Actually should be
HNWI - investible or liquid assets more than USD1 mil

not counting current property owned/stayed.

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