Mantle is a Vulkan: AMD's dead graphics API rises from the ashes in OpenGL's successor

Is AMD Mantle Dead As We Have Known It? Vulcan API Uses Mantle Technology for OpenGL

Vulkan is derived from and built upon components of AMD's Mantle API, which was donated by AMD to Khronos with the intent of giving Khronos a foundation on which to begin developing a low-level API that they could standardize across the industry, much like OpenGL

So yeah AMD is build their card for their Mantle but nobody want to use Mantle coz it suck so they build Vulcan and Vulcan based on their Mantle API. AMD GCN is Asynchronous Compute Engine ready from 7xxx series meanwhile Nvidia is not. Yeah it is not a new tech, but AMD can build ASYNC API coz the provide GPU for console meanwhile Nvidia does not have anything to make a new API so they just use ready tech/API and build GIMPWORK. AMD is losing in for like 6 years to build a new API, meanwhile their CPU already far behind Intel. It is worth it?IDK

This post has been edited by crash123: Jul 26 2016, 06:10 PM

By milking people like you who have brand loyalty, so naive

Some comments really shamefur dispray. It's a shame though, work so hard not get paid, or maybe he wants to see the industry only Nvidia existing

i dont think asysc really much benefit if the compute/graphic queue were properly managed (but will be extremely important if the game engine is compute heavy), the actual features that will bring up massive performance is Shader Intrinsic thats allow specific gpu architecture instruction access/specific hardware codepath. This is the main reason why DOOM vulkan rendering much faster vs opengl on GCN cards.


This post has been edited by zerorating: Jul 26 2016, 06:17 PM

I have both nVidia and AMD cards.
I'll make sure the high end product goes to my gaming rig. The cheap low class goes to my office PC.

But very soon the cheap low class will not even qualify to be "office PC" anymore. It will be replaced by GTX1050.

It's even worse in the subforum, some of them circlejerk so hard I can't even read the posts without facepalming.

I don't care what cards you have though, fanbois do often use this claim to avoid being called out. But, alas a fanboi shows his stripes immediately by bashing things he does not understand and putting one side on a pedestal.

People without brand loyalty do not see the need to defend Nvidia like you do.

No bulllshit. I replied in real time with my ultra-wide screen.

nVidia can speak for itself. It's not like they are having KNN performance anyway.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2016, 06:30 PM


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there are differences between fans and fanboys.
well i am nvidia fans since tnt2 era and bought the first xbox (when everyone preferring ps2), over time, i dont find it is worth it to pour my money to nvidia, their fanboys can do that, no worries.

Well thata true, with GPUOpen they can access the hardware more directly. Thats another story altogether, but when it comes to latest games that heavily utize A.I.s, lighting effects, physics, shaders, and all the features that requires computing calculation to react to the gamers actions and events, you can surely see the benefits of Async Compute.

This will make it easier for game developers to run their computing instructions faster. Of course the more complex the instructions, the better it will be on async compute.

agreed, but i think developers will choose lazy path, implement some middleware from some company, done.
performance drop? fark it (until batman:arkham knight happens)

nowadays, the only company that went seriously on graphic optimization are DICE, but they forget the game contents

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jul 26 2016, 06:35 PM

Hahaha, arkham knight was a disaster

Thanks to gimpworks

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 06:50 PM

actually the original code were beyond repairs, if only they let rocksteady to do the PC port them-self.

Post picture also no used already. Since everyone knows your bias towards AMD, and you love Nvidia

Consumer that know what they want, knows how to decide for themselves and don't need people telling them what to buy.

Also it's not like AMD is gonna die because they cannot sell RX 480 in Malaysia, you know there exists larger market than ours outside Malaysia right? I doubt they can fix third world pricing. Worst case is nobody care to bring AMD cards here anymore, like in India their AMD cards also much higher than even ours. Smaller quantities brought in means the price will be higher compared to bulk Nvidia cards. Nvidia becomes their only reasonable option.

relax...... some people just want his boss to buy new Felali car and new leather jacket.

Just vote with ur wallet, dont get drag into this AMD vs Nvidia fight. I also aint changing my budget also. GPU get more expensive is their own problem not mine.

why office pc use dedicated graphic card ? are u in graphic designer industry ?

99.9% office pc use built in graphic ..

to me no different between 1070 and 1060
when cpu i5 unable to support 1070

some ppl just like support monopolism . just like BN's cronies support thier ... astro/tm etc

if i buy new rig with i3 6100 proc which new card to buy for play game?

He is VIP amd basher and top nvidia spoke person.

depend on what games u play . tell us what games u play and what is your budget.

and i swear i not green/red side fb . my recommendation will not bias . no worries

This post has been edited by nagflar: Jul 26 2016, 07:27 PM