What tok U, almost all DX12 games RX480 performs better than GTX 1060 dude.

In time spy (DX12 benchmark), RX480 matches the GTX 1060


Here are latest DX12 titles with Async Compute On






And not to mention Latest title that fully utilize Async Compute for best compatibility between games and hardware just like they used in Consoles

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Async Compute is the latest technology that already implemented in consoles that focus on maximum compatibility between application and hardware, you should read about the advantages of async compute and why using this can increase your old card from 45fps to 60fps just by changing application setting.

Game developers gotta be stupid for not using async compute in the upcoming games.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 02:59 PM

R9 390X owners no need to upgrade until upcoming RX 490,

Now titan X also lose with FURY X

Their cards already evolved beating GTX 980 without a sweat, ready for DX12 titles.
Kesian GTX 980 kena gimp by NVIDIA, their latest drivers turn OFF ALL ASYNC COMPUTE Features.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 03:08 PM

Dont forget DOOM, check the last picture, 114 frame vs 80 plus frame?

Those who follow GPU scene closely these days would get excited over vulkan because its going to be used by next gen consoles, phones, and all type of gaming OS, this alone promises high compatibility and stability in terms of performance.

Wonder why consoles can produce Good looking games with puny specs? it is due to Async Compute my friend.

So you can bet your money that future game developers focus on utilizing async compute for their new titles because all the current and upcoming consoles (xbox,sony ps, and nintendo) are using the same technology. We have to follow the trend when buying GPU because these cards are not cheap, long term usability is a must for most gamers.

And wanna know why we should look at the console market to estimate your PC GPU long term value? because console games are leading the gaming market since ages, and game developers already starting to focus on cross platform development rather than hardware specific development that still used by NVIDIA gimpworks.

Trust me, RX480 maybe on par with GTX 1060 right now, just wait for another year and see the latest benchmark, its gonna beat GTX 1060 on every dx 12 titles.

Just like all AMD cards from the previous gens, google more about long term value of AMD cards and you will know.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 03:23 PM

Seriously? U compare aftermarket GTX 1060 with aftermarket cooler with ref RX480?



And people already starting to see RX480 with aftermarket coolers matching the R9 390x, aftermarket GTX 1060 still struggling to compete with REF RX 480 in DX12

People already know pc gamers expect their hardware to evolve over time, its not like console games that stays the same for the next 2-5 years.

When you play pc games, you will expect latest drivers coming almost monthly, and even games being optimized and updated frequently using patches and fixes. This is what makes pc games worthwhile as you can clearly see your hardware improving from time to time.

Im not arguing about who should buy what brand, Im talking about being a better consumer, if you are putting thousands of ringgit on just graphics cards and expect it to performs as is, then you should stick with console gaming as most console gamers only cares about playing the games.

Pc gamers usually want to see that their system is 'futute proof' a term that is a norm among system builders, that is why with current technology and chip architechture, we need to consider AMD.

Unless NVIDIA starts to acknowledge the importance of Async Compute and the importance of working in an open source environment, they are fighting a losing battle.

Dont get me wrong though, their cards are great based from my past experience their cards does not age well and you can expect latest drivers USUALLY gimp your cards when they already launched a new one.

Dude founders edition IS the ref version.

This is why you are feeding companies like nvidia for nothing, all this while GPUs like Titan, GTX 780, and even the almost obsolete GTX 980 runs perfectly fine but for some unknown reason you will see it starts to fall out as time goes by.

I would have agree with you that technology demands better cards and new games need better cards for that sole reason I agree.

But not to the extent when you can clearly see NVIDIA gimp their cards like GTX TITAN until the lose to ATI 7950 which was launched two YEARS EARLIER.

Dude I am not NVIDIA or AMD fans, but after all the reading and reviews, we can clearly see NVIDIA does not appreciate their loyal customers. You expect to fork out RM3k every year just for a graphics card? you mad ? I dont know about those who think money grows on trees, but for me I expect my hard earned cash to be worthwhile, not just becoming obsolete after 3 years.

But thats just me, its up to you if you want to keep on throwing money just because NVIDIA forced you to do, for me, I am a happy camper with AMD cards for now.


Oh and the Gameworks argument, it might be plausible if its was 2-3 years ago, but considering that AMD already control the console market and they are providing and open source platforms for free to all developers, you can expect fewer gameworks titles in the future, even NVIDIA supporters knows this and they hate gameworks A LOT.

Up to you to consider which is which.

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 03:51 PM

And all I can see AMD RX 480 have smooth game play with 60 fps..

Kesian those who bought GTX 970 To think it was launched 2 years ago.


Take a look at the rival of GTX 970, the R9 390x Once a rival, and now dominate in the same game.

Just like RX 480, max 60 fps frame compared to GTX 970 around 40-50 fps (maybe more if they turn off v syc)

See why I dont buy NVIDIA?

Thats why malaysians need to get over this "Nvidia is better" assumption, they need to see that only nvidia "latest" card is the best, while the lower ver and previous ones sucks.

AMD, smooth sailing all the way. Dont spend arm and leg and still get enough power to run max at 60 fps. install and let the card evolve

Yeah I know, most nvidia cards cant run the game that well.

So no more GTX 1060? Wanna kill your own card for what?

Why not cancel GTX 1060 and straight away but GTX 1070? can SLI some more?


Mcm mana mau support NVIDIA nih?

That doesnt justify the 20fps difference


It aint BS when it has been proven.
oh come see ALeUNe

GTX TITAN launch year: 2013
ATI 7950 launch year: 2011

And better yet, losing to 3 gb card


LOL No point to talk now calling people names?

Did I say anything about buying RX 480?

Real mature kid.



This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 04:47 PM

DUDE, AMD owns the console market lah,

both xbox and sony using AMD not to mention vulkan API is already applied on PS4 and Xbox one, it also used on Smartphones, handhelds, and tablets. Even new android games starts to use vulkan.


Wanna tell me why game developers dont want to use vulkan to sell their games?





This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 04:57 PM

Wanna know why newer pascal chips not gonna be able to fully utilize vulkan?

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But of course NVIDIA GTX 1080/70 still runs good, its just that they aint gonna see much benefit compared to GCN architecture used by AMD.

You might get 5-10 fps more but not 30fps like AMD with DX12 or vulkan

This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Jul 26 2016, 05:06 PM

NVIDIA not doing so well either, thats why they are moving towards Automotive, server markets, wanna know why the NVIDIA arent as cheap as before? because they are not pushing towards gaming market anymore, they are more focused on industrial based computing.

You see them pushing TITAN gpus that actually meant for professional application rather than gaming, selling it as gaming card just to achieve economies of scale because the chip was too big to cover the chip per wafer production cost.

(bolded part) Dont put your words into my mouth la

The reason why Nvidia card does not improve much on vulkan or dx 12 is not that they dont support these APIs, its because their architecture does not have async shaders, IT IS DUE TO HARDWARE design.

That is why I dont go for Maxwell or even PASCAL cards, these cards are just not capable of fully utilizing Async compute as efficiently as GCN architecture.

And I now I hear NVIDIA want to push their Volta cards for next year??? wow, whats the rush NVIDIA?

When fan boys cant justify his lost buying overpriced cards..

They move to "class" arguments


I was like you until I took gimpworks to the knee

When buying GPU leads to company financial performance

Wanna know why AMD having financial diffculties? it is due to the Processor flop aka bulldoze failure.

It does not provide a total picture in terms of graphic and gaming department, let alone their future contracts with console developers and the upcoming ZEN processor

Umm...Thats for industrial use, VR game developers?

It wasnt meant to be used as just gaming card LOL

Nope,

Mantle=DX 12 and Vulkan is different API by kronos.

And async compute is not new tech, it was already used in current gen consoles. It only due to late shift to DX12 that people dont fully see the benefits of Async Compute.

Unlike NVIDIA who always close their latest tech for best optimization, ATI/AMD shares their technology with open source method, so your argument that Mantle/DX12 developed by AMD so must be better on AMD is invalid, as it is an open source technology.

Plus if you follow the recent game developers conference, Vulkan is a big thing among them, and even Nvidia demonstrating their findings on vulkan.

Since MANTLE is an open source code, they have similar base.

But to me it doesnt matter whether it is Vulkan or DX12, I am more interested with what the developers can do with Async compute, since the improvements over Vulkan in DOOM, I have always been addicted to what Async compute can do.

Never before in my 12 years of gaming that a game can improve its Frame rate up to 30 fps and above just with a change in setting with same graphic detail.