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> Which is worth to get AMD or nVidia, AIB RX 480 vs GTX 1060, AMD Pricing Chat

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post Jul 26 2016, 03:04 PM

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worth for money, gtx1060 lol.
but i dont think you will be disappointed with either of them other than paying premium price compared to US

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post Jul 26 2016, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(TendouJigoku @ Jul 26 2016, 03:04 PM)
RX480 is originally made to compete with GTX970, not Pascal cards. You should get GTX1060.
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not really, it getting really close to the 390x now. rx480 is new definition for mid-range card, forcing nvidia to follow suit.
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(TendouJigoku @ Jul 26 2016, 03:13 PM)
I see.

However it still falls short to GTX1060's performance, judging from your chart there. Hence it is more worthy to get GTX1060 compared to RX480. tongue.gif
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yup, its more worth it.
but right now i pro-amd, so i wont buy anything nvidia anymore biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 03:21 PM)
GTX1060 FE only available on nVidia online shop.
We don't get FE in our market.

With 14-15% more OC headroom of GTX1060 put into consideration.

3Dmark Time Spy. nVidia wins.
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RoTR. nVidia wins.
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Hitman. AMD wins.
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Total War. nVidia wins.
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Ashes of Singularity. nVidia wins.
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Doom (Vulkan). AMD wins.

DX12 score, nVidia 4 : AMD 2.
So how?  rclxs0.gif
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comparing custom gtx1060 with reference rx480 thats low,
and since when draw=win. hmm.gif
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(TendouJigoku @ Jul 26 2016, 03:23 PM)
Good for you, bro.

As for me, I plan on upgrading my GTX970 in the future but still not sure whether to go for GTX1060 or GTX1070. hmm.gif
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depends on your cpu.
if your cpu are old and you will not upgrade your cpu in the nearest time, chances are you better with gtx1060.
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 03:26 PM)
There is no refence GTX1060, unless you want to buy online from nVidia website.

Draw 404.
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and from the benchmark graph that you show for total war were as below and since when 74 is lower than 73/72. That's not total win.
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also there are custom gtx1060 that following reference design except for the aluminum premium cover that F.E have.
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 03:32 PM)
I already put there.

It's your problem if you don't read.
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so your ignoring computerbase graph showing performance uplift from factory oc custom AIB model and extra headroom depending on silicon lottery? okay, okay.
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Freedom1104 @ Jul 26 2016, 03:40 PM)
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closest thing to reference card maybe ?
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(TendouJigoku @ Jul 26 2016, 03:36 PM)
As for now, I'm running my GTX970 on i5-2320 processor. Currently in the process of building a brand new rig with i7-6700k processor. I guess GTX1070 is a suitable choice?
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yup, if you plan to upgrade to 6700k, but i believe kaby lake coming really soon, you can wait for that if possible biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 03:42 PM)
Go ahead add 8%.  laugh.gif
nVidia still leads.  rclxs0.gif
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math failed?
reference (100%) ->(8% performance uplift)-> nitro x+ (108% from reference) ->(6% more headroom by increasing power limit, oc to the max with 1.15v voltage) nitro x+ OC max (1.08x1.06 = 114.48%)

so totaling of 14.48% extra performance vs reference and you still saying only 3% headroom? how about other people who managed to make their card run at 1415mhz (computerbase 4gb oc nitro+) or 1400mhz (jagatoc reference binned rx480), those headroom become even larger, thats not even including voltage bypass that is possible just by using afterburner. I know efficiency will be affected with the OC, but that OC headroom are there if the users want to take advantage of it.

even ANUS claim their card can go 19% faster vs reference, yes its cherry pick, deal with it.
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 03:49 PM)
This is why you are feeding companies like nvidia for nothing, all this while GPUs like Titan, GTX 780, and even the almost obsolete GTX 980 runs perfectly fine but for some unknown reason you will see it starts to fall out as time goes by.

I would have agree with you that technology demands better cards and new games need better cards for that sole reason I agree.

But not to the extent when you can clearly see NVIDIA gimp their cards like GTX TITAN until the lose to ATI 7950 which was launched two YEARS EARLIER.

Dude I am not NVIDIA or AMD fans, but after all the reading and reviews, we can clearly see NVIDIA does not appreciate their loyal customers. You expect to fork out RM3k every year just for a graphics card? you mad ? I dont know about those who think money grows on trees, but for me I expect my hard earned cash to be worthwhile, not just becoming obsolete after 3 years.

But thats just me, its up to you if you want to keep on throwing money just because NVIDIA forced you to do, for me, I am a happy camper with AMD cards for now.
Oh and the Gameworks argument, it might be plausible if its was 2-3 years ago, but considering that AMD already control the console market and they are providing and open source platforms for free to all developers, you can expect fewer gameworks titles in the future, even NVIDIA supporters knows this and they hate gameworks A LOT.

Up to you to consider which is which.
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to add salt to that, even big developers like ubisoft seeks for AMD help to implement dx12 on watch doge2, not to forget firaxis with their civilization 6.
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 04:04 PM)
And all I can see AMD RX 480 have smooth game play with 60 fps..

Kesian those who bought GTX 970 ohmy.gif  To think it was launched 2 years ago.
Take a look at the rival of GTX 970, the R9 390x Once a rival, and now dominate in the same game.

Just like RX 480, max 60 fps frame compared to GTX 970 around 40-50 fps (maybe more if they turn off v syc)

See why I dont buy NVIDIA?
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thats only apply if games using lots of compute processing (remedy loves to make lots of graphic experiment), however it considered bad port by alot of people, but still no fix for it from the developers on nvidia end.
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 04:08 PM)
The toaster started throttling at 1360MHz.
http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-nitro-rx-4...card-review/10/

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Go ahead do the comparison.
Vanilla and overclocked Sapphire Nitro+ RX480 (same overclocked result @ 1360MHz)



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showing skeptical youtube channel with only few views, not even showing they have that card. LOL.

oh look, the gpu clock is stuck at 1359.8mhz. Much throttling ehhh?
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Jul 26 2016, 04:32 PM)
not everyone buy and change/upgrade card often.

majority user is those that buy and use for years
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someone on the thread says must change graphic card every-time there is a new release, its like im currently enjoying my games at 90fps, ooowaiii the new graphic card is 1.7x faster, must buy,now can enjoy games at 153fps (on the backend using crap TN 60hz monitor)

to me, as long as there is no game as revolutionary as the first crysis, there is no need to purchase a new graphic card unless the fps counter drop so badly or there is needful feature on the graphic card (e.g hevc decoder)
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Jul 26 2016, 04:37 PM)
Semua jgn gaduh , come buy my palit Jetsteam gtx1070 RM1720  rclxms.gif kill rx480 that cost 2k
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(TendouJigoku @ Jul 26 2016, 04:40 PM)
For real? Oh man, I already purchased the i7-6700k processor. Only left for me to purchase are the mobo and casing (optional). Guess I'll settle with Skylake. sad.gif
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well 6700k is still a good buy, IPC improvement for kaby lake most likely 5% at most, just the IGPU improvement will be large.
the engineering sample for kaby lake 7700k is 4.2ghz, same as skylake 6700k
http://wccftech.com/intel-kaby-lake-core-i...00k-cpu-leaked/

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post Jul 26 2016, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 04:49 PM)
We all know AMD has an edge on Vulkan.
It's either we see new improvement from nVidia on Vulkan or we see Vulkan die like Glide.
Either way, still early to judge on relevance of Vulkan.

Moreover, puny market share of AMD anyway. It's not like moving the market anyway.
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ironically in developers event, nvidia are the one that keeps promoting vulkan mentioning its open source/multi platform, meanwhile amd just smile at the back, and promoting dx12 instead biggrin.gif
amd know that big developers will stick with DX12 for now, because alot of tools only working on directx API, better documented and better supported by microsoft.
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post Jul 26 2016, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 04:56 PM)
If Vulkan is a big thing, then we should see some improvement on Vulkan then.
It's common sense to stay relevance for a market leader.

Whether AMD smiles or not, developers will need to decide it's major share audience they are targeting or puny group they are aiming at.
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its development costs and users base are the main factor.
whats the point implementing open source API if it takes alot of works/manhours to make it run well.

but vulkan are still big in smartphone scene anyway, better than opengl es, that apple metal api can also throw to dustbin as well.
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post Jul 26 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2016, 04:58 PM)
Don't bring consoles to master race market.
It's not relevant.

With console, AMD is going downhill.
Look at its debt and performance over the years. Hefty price paid.
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ironically, semi-custom business that help amd to gain little profit last quarter. If possible AMD could charge more from sony, microsoft (or maybe nintendo), for their next APU with polaris architecture.
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post Jul 26 2016, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(kingsora @ Jul 26 2016, 05:00 PM)
Which is comparable to my old gtx 770?

1080, 1070 or 1060?
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none, not even gtx1050 sad.gif

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