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> Which is worth to get AMD or nVidia, AIB RX 480 vs GTX 1060, AMD Pricing Chat

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post Jul 26 2016, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Jul 26 2016, 01:29 PM)
i dont think anyone win for this 480 vs 1060

for current game d11, it would be 1060
for future dx12 game would go for 480

so neither win
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Still early to judge. It depends on game titles.
Don't jump your gun.

With such puny market share, doubt the debt-ridden low class will have market standard and impact after all.
The low class has itself cornered at sub-MYR1k segment.
The concern is whether the low class can survive another let-down by Zen and Vega.
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post Jul 26 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 26 2016, 01:34 PM)
which ever win , 980 owners lose biggrin.gif
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390x and Fury X bleed at the corner.
But no one cares.
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post Jul 26 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 26 2016, 02:10 PM)
garage sale.. palit gtx 1060 is rm1349....
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Free shipping by Gbros.
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post Jul 26 2016, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 26 2016, 02:09 PM)
I browse garage sale.. pre-order sapphire nitro rx 470 (8gb) also more than 1k...
What kind of pricing is this...
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RX470 @ MYR1159 --> Assuming overclocked GTX960 performance doh.gif
RX460 @ MYR699 --> Assuming overclocked GTX950 performance (it's niche 75W market. Potential market for RX460 until we see GTX1050 to slaughter both RX470/460)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4012429



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post Jul 26 2016, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 26 2016, 02:32 PM)
aib rx 460 for 700...
seems good... need to check it spec first,,,
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It's USD99 card.
It's a low end card, by today's standard.

The only advantage is, it should be able to run without any power connector (75w).
It's a niche market.

And it's MYR700 on our shelf. More than 50% higher than suggested price of AMD.
KNN low class will remain KNN.

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post Jul 26 2016, 02:43 PM

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RX460.
See it for yourself, the low-class-ness of the low class.

Look at the old school KNN "Zalman fan" design.
It's like traveling in time machine back to Year 2000.

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post Jul 26 2016, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 02:57 PM)
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GTX1060 FE only available on nVidia online shop.
We don't get FE in our market.

With 14-15% more OC headroom of GTX1060 put into consideration. (vs 3% OC headroom of RX480)

3Dmark Time Spy. nVidia wins.
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RoTR. nVidia wins.
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Hitman. AMD wins.
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Total War. nVidia wins.
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Ashes of Singularity. nVidia wins.
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Doom (Vulkan). AMD wins.

DX12 score, nVidia 4 : AMD 2.
So how? rclxs0.gif

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post Jul 26 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2016, 03:24 PM)
comparing custom gtx1060 with reference rx480 thats low,
and since when draw=win.  hmm.gif
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There is no refence GTX1060, unless you want to buy online from nVidia website.

Draw 404.
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 03:27 PM)
Seriously? U compare aftermarket GTX 1060 with aftermarket cooler with ref RX480?

laugh.gif  laugh.gif

And people already starting to see RX480 with aftermarket coolers matching the R9 390x, aftermarket GTX 1060 still struggling to compete with REF RX 480 in DX12 laugh.gif
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3rd time I mentioned, no reference GTX1060 card.

Sedapnya syiok sendiri.
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(SourLemons @ Jul 26 2016, 03:29 PM)
which shop can buy graphics card without cc surcharge ah
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2016, 03:31 PM)
and from the benchmark graph that you show for total war were as below and since when 74 is lower than 73/72. That's not total win.
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also there are custom gtx1060 that following reference design except for the aluminum premium cover that F.E have.
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I already put there.

It's your problem if you don't read.

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With 14-15% more OC headroom of GTX1060 put into consideration. (vs 3% OC headroom of RX480)

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post Jul 26 2016, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2016, 03:40 PM)
so your ignoring computerbase graph showing performance uplift from factory oc custom AIB model and extra headroom depending on silicon lottery? okay, okay.
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Go ahead add 8% (over reference card). laugh.gif
nVidia still leads (with 18% OC headroom over reference card). rclxs0.gif

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post Jul 26 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2016, 03:53 PM)
math failed?
reference (100%) ->(8% performance uplift)-> nitro x+ (108% from reference) ->(6% more headroom by increasing power limit, oc to the max with 1.15v voltage) nitro x+ OC max (1.08x1.06 = 114.48%)

so totaling of 14.48% extra performance vs reference and you still saying only 3% headroom? how about other people who managed to make their card run at 1415mhz (computerbase 4gb oc nitro+) or 1400mhz (jagatoc reference binned rx480), those headroom become even larger, thats not even including voltage bypass that is possible just by using afterburner. I know efficiency will be affected with the OC, but that OC headroom are there if the users want to take advantage of it.

even ANUS claim their card can go 19% faster vs reference, yes its cherry pick, deal with it.
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The toaster started throttling at 1360MHz.
http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-nitro-rx-4...card-review/10/

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Go ahead do the comparison.
Vanilla and overclocked Sapphire Nitro+ RX480 (same overclocked result @ 1360MHz)



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post Jul 26 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 26 2016, 03:53 PM)
math failed?
reference (100%) ->(8% performance uplift)-> nitro x+ (108% from reference) ->(6% more headroom by increasing power limit, oc to the max with 1.15v voltage) nitro x+ OC max (1.08x1.06 = 114.48%)

so totaling of 14.48% extra performance vs reference and you still saying only 3% headroom? how about other people who managed to make their card run at 1415mhz (computerbase 4gb oc nitro+) or 1400mhz (jagatoc reference binned rx480), those headroom become even larger, thats not even including voltage bypass that is possible just by using afterburner. I know efficiency will be affected with the OC, but that OC headroom are there if the users want to take advantage of it.

even ANUS claim their card can go 19% faster vs reference, yes its cherry pick, deal with it.
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You save couple hundreds from buying a GTX1070 @ MYR1.7K.
You just gotta deal with it. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 04:04 PM)
And all I can see AMD RX 480 have smooth game play with 60 fps..

Kesian those who bought GTX 970 ohmy.gif  To think it was launched 2 years ago.
Take a look at the rival of GTX 970, the R9 390x Once a rival, and now dominate in the same game.

Just like RX 480, max 60 fps frame compared to GTX 970 around 40-50 fps (maybe more if they turn off v syc)

See why I dont buy NVIDIA?
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GTX970 is indeed launched almost 2 years ago.
R9 390x launched 1 year ago.

Only the low class thinks the newer card should perform slower than old cards.
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 04:16 PM)
So no more GTX 1060? Wanna kill your own card for what?

Why not cancel GTX 1060 and straight away but GTX 1070? can SLI some more?
Mcm mana mau support NVIDIA nih? laugh.gif
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No, that Asus RX480 Strix showed by zerorating was selling at MYR2075.
Deswai I said we might as well get GTX1070 at cheaper rate.
https://www.lowyat.net/2016/110111/asus-gef...s-from-rm-1479/

Wait... you mean you are one of the sohai who is willing to pay MYR2075 for Asus RX480 Strix.

khelben you have a potential sohai candidate here.
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Jul 26 2016, 04:25 PM)
wow... rx 480 strix is rm2075.. super duper expensive
but surprisingly, same price with gtx 1060 strix
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MYR2075 is the conservative price.
Could be more expensive. Considering the RX480 is more expensive than GTX1060 in our market. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Jul 26 2016, 04:37 PM)
Semua jgn gaduh , come buy my palit Jetsteam gtx1070 RM1720  rclxms.gif kill rx480 that cost 2k
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4013367&hl=
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Utilize your card.

Turn on DSR and start gaming at 4K with your 1080p monitor. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2016, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jul 26 2016, 04:45 PM)
That doesnt justify the 20fps difference  laugh.gif
It aint BS when it has been proven.
oh come see ALeUNe
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GTX TITAN launch year: 2013
ATI 7950 launch year: 2011

And better yet, losing to 3 gb card
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LOL No point to talk now calling people names?

Did I say anything about buying RX 480?

Real mature kid.

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We all know AMD has an edge on Vulkan.
It's either we see new improvement from nVidia on Vulkan or we see Vulkan die like Glide.
Either way, still early to judge on relevance of Vulkan.

Moreover, puny market share of AMD anyway. It's not like moving the market anyway.
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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Jul 26 2016, 04:51 PM)
Once go to 4k cant downgrade b to 1080p jo . Xmau , it is a bait  devil.gif
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Just follow the setting on the screen. No worries, it's 1080p devil.gif

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