If you mean the steering wheel height, it is adjustable

Put the gear on, release brake, the car hold about 3 seconds before u press accelerate pedal. Never try very steep hill, just try at some normal fly over bridge, I also try reverse situation and it worked. will try hha when go tian hou temple coming cny.


Yes, sometime need to turn the key twice to start the engine, try to wait a second or two after you put in the key and turn on engine.

For manual Persona, apparently we have no choice but to live with the power drop issue. The only thing that Proton can do, if 70% of Manual persona would make a petition to change the ECU setting then they will consider. For right now, we have to accustomed ourself with the issue. The engineer were very helpful, one of the powertrain engineer named Raon/Ron. Explain the situation very throughfully. Eventhough 50% of the time I didn't understand the term use to explain the thing, but I appreciate the effort that the proton put to explain the user like this.

I don't know whether to feel sad or not, I doubt we can gather 70% of Manual Persona owner to address this issue.

p/s: I even asked whether the new Persona will be equipped with the new GDI engine. Seems like they'll only equip the new engine for the facelift. Turbo VVT also scrap from the plan. No plan for production.

This post has been edited by Boss262: Nov 11 2016, 07:23 PM

Indeed so , don't think we will be able to gather > 70% even if all MT owner from this forum signed the petition . That being said , not harm trying too .
Any idea does Iriz 1.6 MT have the same power drop issue ? As I was told by the SC that that's update for MT Iriz but not Persona MT when I ask to reflash the ECU .

Apparently the power drop issue in Iriz is minimal compare to persona. Something related with gear ratio didn't understand.

If something about gear ratio, I can assure that this car has rather short gear ratio for the first 4 gears, it should be accelerate real Quick compared to other MT variant. The rpm for the first 4 gears is even higher compared to other MT car I have drove before such as iswara 1.3, myvi 1.3, nissan sunny 1.3

Today I switched to my iswara and myvi I suddenly realize these car are so responsive compared to persona, and I become driving aggresively because I've used to persona throttle respond which require me to pedal more for power compared to those cars I've mentioned

This is the Gear ratio for our current Persona 2016 . Notice the drop between each gear .


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This is the % of RPM drop per gear .

This post has been edited by Jetz212: Nov 11 2016, 10:27 PM


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The rust is normal if being left unattended after some splash of water

Even Mazda CX3 having this rust

Yes the gear ratio is pretty similar or same with Iriz. It has pretty short(higher number) 1-4th gear ratio, so these gears cruise at higher RPM which result in better pick up. Compared to other similar MT car, Even Myvi 1.3 has longer(lower number) 1-4th gear ratio which result in lower RPM at the same speed.

The unordinary gear ratio for this car would be the 5th gear which is quite far different with 4th gear compared to similar MT cars which require you to rev more at 4th gear before gear change to 5th gear

Of course the speed vs rpm not just depending on the gear ratio only, there's other factors like diameter of the tire and final gear ratios counts too

you can view this blog for more detailed on Gear ratio and RPM calculation by one of the infamous forumer in Inspira thread
K3nnYkl82 mintak borrow link for research purpose
http://lynspira.blogspot.my/2014/05/gear-ratio.html

Apparently the true power delivery were beyond 4K rpm and above. these were told by their power train engineer. Although I maybe quoting them wrong, they can always welcome to create new account and explain here. They said this kind of setting are for comfort, tested on many different setting while in the making. This setting were the best, I don't know why though. Maybe we're the rare case that didn't enjoy this kind of set back.

Likely you quote them correctly . As the 1st 2 gear for Persona is shorter(higher numbers) than average , 3.636 vs 3.5 and 2.045 vs 1.9 .
We would need higher RPM to achieve the same speed compare to similar cars . Not sure how is this more comfortable though .

This post has been edited by Jetz212: Nov 11 2016, 11:23 PM

If any one of you who want detail explanation, might as well email the protonwecare. They will take your request very seriously zero5177.

Thanks for the details, I think I may want to hear more on what they wanna express with this kind of gear ratio setup... mayb like what I expected, Spirited drive + comfort in one setup... whatever limiting them is the lack of a 6 speed MT to spread those ratio more evenly

Who knows... mayb 6 spd MT is overkill for this car as well

No problem! Cheers

Maybe in the future proton will release ecu vvt tuning/mapping update kot to increase the pickup hp of the mt trans ratio. However even the cvt variant also were tuned to be a 'polite' car for fuel saving city drive. It wont be as sporty as the inspira or satria which tuned for aggressive driving.
Recommended a cheap and cool upgrade here, try looks for peugeot footrest and tirol pedal at lazada for around rm40 each set. No drilling required, just screw on. It will made the pedal easier to press and looks very cool. Available for mt too!

yeap going to email them for the issues, did mentioned to the SC for 1st service, and they said is find wit the power

i rmb u have minimize the power drop issue at rawang SC right? the problem came back again?


This post has been edited by Chinifity: Nov 12 2016, 02:15 AM

Yeah, I guess it's just temporary solution. I have no clue whether the engine oil play major role on this issue or not, keep hearing the engineer kept suggesting on using Syntium 7000.

Syntium series sucks.. Period

Went to COSE for service
Those memo list to check on persona includes
-Fuel lid
-The assy thing the SA said is fuel hose.

I tried to address my rattling issue and wind noise, they say I need to left the car here for research team to check on weekday. I denied because I need to use the car.

Any of you actually had wind noise or rattling noise fixed at weekend?