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 [Offcial] Perodua Alza MPV Club V4, Car One Moment, MPV The Next

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post Nov 11 2016, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(xavier1782 @ Nov 9 2016, 11:35 PM)
Hi guys, im thinking of getting a Alza SE. came here to read some comments and review. Kind off taken away when reading the 1st page about common issues. Need some reassurance from current users. Thanks.
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The common issues are captured here and brought forward from the previous thread.

I have 1st gen version Alza, clocking 5 year now this month with 120k km.
No major issues so far and maintenance is very affordable (*outside)

1. Tyres = currently 4th set (with the 1st set ori tyres running <10k)
2. brake pads = front change 3 times, rear 1 time
3. absorbers = 1 time at 80k km
4. Change atf every 20k or 30k km
5. Normal service every 7-10k km, depending what oil using.
6. water pump = changed at 70k due to bearing sound and slight leaking.
7. Coolant = changed 1 time at 80k (DIY)
8. Battery = 3rd unit now, normally changed every 2 years.
9. Buzzer wiring - flooding the driver side floor, DIY checking.. will check next round as raining season now.
10. wheel alignment + balancing every 8-10k.
11. cabin filter - changed every year.
12. light bulbs - 3 pcs so far if remembered correctly (using Osram/Philips/Bosch)
13. Engine V belt - changed during the water pump changed.

Engine - stock with hotbits extractor.
Body - front strut bar, pivot voltage stabilizer, grounding
Body - sound proofing on doors, roof and side sills. wheel arch bitumen sprays.
Rim - changed rims as ori 2 rims bengkok.





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post Nov 11 2016, 06:10 PM

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hi, may i know perodua alza use what grade of engine oil?
semi 10w40 or 10w30? or otherwise?

p/s:asking on behalf of friend
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post Nov 12 2016, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Nov 11 2016, 03:31 PM)
The common issues are captured here and brought forward from the previous thread.

I have 1st gen version Alza, clocking 5 year now this month with 120k km.
No major issues so far and maintenance is very affordable (*outside)

1. Tyres = currently 4th set (with the 1st set ori tyres running <10k)
2. brake pads = front change 3 times, rear 1 time
3. absorbers = 1 time at 80k km
4. Change atf every 20k or 30k km
5. Normal service every 7-10k km, depending what oil using.
6. water pump = changed at 70k due to bearing sound and slight leaking.
7. Coolant = changed 1 time at 80k (DIY)
8. Battery = 3rd unit now, normally changed every 2 years.
9. Buzzer wiring - flooding the driver side floor, DIY checking.. will check next round as raining season now.
10. wheel alignment + balancing every 8-10k.
11. cabin filter - changed every year. 
12. light bulbs - 3 pcs so far if remembered correctly (using Osram/Philips/Bosch)
13. Engine V belt - changed during the water pump changed.

Engine - stock with hotbits extractor.
Body - front strut bar, pivot voltage stabilizer, grounding
Body - sound proofing on doors, roof and side sills.  wheel arch bitumen sprays.
Rim - changed rims as ori 2 rims bengkok.
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Hey bro, does your hotbits extractor give you too much of FC difference compared to your ori with catalytic ?
I'm very tempted to change it but worried my already fuel sipping engine ( 7.8 l to 100 km ) gonna sip more fuel.

QUOTE(IceBikers @ Nov 11 2016, 07:10 PM)
hi, may i know perodua alza use what grade of engine oil?
semi 10w40 or 10w30? or otherwise?

p/s:asking on behalf of friend
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SC recommended 5w/30 semi synthetic SM/CF for Alza.

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post Nov 12 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(lonelylilpig @ Nov 12 2016, 08:46 AM)
Hey bro, does your hotbits extractor give you too much of FC difference compared to your ori with catalytic ?
I'm very tempted to change it but worried my already fuel sipping engine ( 7.8 l to 100 km ) gonna sip more fuel. 

SC recommended 5w/30 semi synthetic SM/CF for Alza.
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7.8l per 100km quite good dah...to save fuel, just ease off yr right foot and good maintenance.

I put in extractor as need better push. I did not track of this helps..but some said yes some not. FC depends on how u drive eventually
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post Nov 14 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(lonelylilpig @ Nov 12 2016, 08:46 AM)
Hey bro, does your hotbits extractor give you too much of FC difference compared to your ori with catalytic ?
I'm very tempted to change it but worried my already fuel sipping engine ( 7.8 l to 100 km ) gonna sip more fuel. 

SC recommended 5w/30 semi synthetic SM/CF for Alza.
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thanks, but if using 10w30, shud be fine right ?
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I would like to ask, usually what is the lifespan of a tire? measured in mileage?

what's the price for replacing tire currently?
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Nov 14 2016, 12:23 PM)
I would like to ask, usually what is the lifespan of a tire? measured in mileage?

what's the price for replacing tire currently?
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I personally think that it depends on many facts too.

1. Tyre compound - hard or soft. some models have softer compound where it quieter but wear off faster. Grip is better tho. Harder compound last longer and much noisier. The noise level also depends on the 'flower' design. Ones with big big 'flower' is noisier.
2. how it is maintained - proper inflation, rotation as well as alignment.
3. how you drive... if u drift always.. heheheh

average you can measure it by years or mileage (whichever come first).

Mileage - 40k to 60k.
Period - 4 years - some car less drive, clocking 10k km total but the tires already 4-5 years.. best to change as it is old. Some tires burst when go on hiways are due to old age too.

Just my views.
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anyone in here change their brake system ( caliper and disc rotor) to different car model system...example Honda odyssey? my alza brake really suxz...even change to brembo disc rotor and trw pad...i still feel the brake not really that "makan"..
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QUOTE(crazeeclan @ Nov 14 2016, 02:12 PM)
anyone in here change their brake system ( caliper and disc rotor) to different car model system...example Honda odyssey? my alza brake really suxz...even change to brembo disc rotor and trw pad...i still feel the brake not really that "makan"..
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Try change brake pedal hose to steel braided, it will not improve "makan" but it will improve brake pedal feel, easier to manipulate brake pressure.

Also try flushing brake fluid and adjust rear brake shoe to make it more "makan"
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QUOTE(cleaner @ Nov 14 2016, 09:55 PM)
Try change brake pedal hose to steel braided, it will not improve  "makan" but it will improve brake pedal feel, easier to manipulate brake pressure.

Also try flushing brake fluid and adjust rear brake shoe to make it more "makan"
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i have a bad experience with metal braided hose on my previous car... the joint actually snap off..btw im not using those china brand...im using P** RS that time....

Already flush...after flush still the same...i always adjust my rear brake everytime i service my car...roughly about 2 month( 8000km) once.

This post has been edited by crazeeclan: Nov 15 2016, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(crazeeclan @ Nov 14 2016, 02:12 PM)
anyone in here change their brake system ( caliper and disc rotor) to different car model system...example Honda odyssey? my alza brake really suxz...even change to brembo disc rotor and trw pad...i still feel the brake not really that "makan"..
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QUOTE(cleaner @ Nov 14 2016, 09:55 PM)
Try change brake pedal hose to steel braided, it will not improve  "makan" but it will improve brake pedal feel, easier to manipulate brake pressure.

Also try flushing brake fluid and adjust rear brake shoe to make it more "makan"
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QUOTE(crazeeclan @ Nov 15 2016, 08:29 AM)
i have a bad experience with metal braided hose on my previous car... the joint actually snap off..btw im not using those china brand...im using P** RS that time....

Already flush...after flush still the same...i always adjust my rear brake everytime i service my car...roughly about 2 month( 8000km) once.
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Steel Braided hose.. it actually improve the braking (feel) to be less spongy-ness. As our normal rubber hose would expand when brake pedal is pressed. My friend changed it to steel braided hose on his persona (some local well known brand), not sure it is P** RS or AR******.

It looks nice on hand and he changed it plus branded brake fluid. Ended hell, where the hose 'leaking' one after another. Even though they provide 1-1 change on the 'defective' hose, it kena again, just within 1-2 month time and he kena xcident where the leaking made no pressure on the pump.
Habis fluid tu, he brake and no brake at all, avoided banging into a bike, but ended up into another car.

After we check thru the hose, it is a total design flaw. They said can change 1-1, fxxx them la. Go back to original and he just change to a better pad and new disc (TRW, i think).

Brake hose is key item to jaga too, where during alignment or balancing, go look at the hose to see the condition of the hose (cracks etc).

Since most of us has 100k mileage or >4-5 years car, best to have a frequent check on the hose during service too. Drive safe.
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post Nov 15 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Nov 12 2016, 10:12 AM)
7.8l per 100km quite good dah...to save fuel, just ease off yr right foot and good maintenance.

I put in extractor as need better push. I did not track of this helps..but some said yes some not. FC depends on how u drive eventually
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I see ... after i fitted vios injectors if i run with ori air filter FC can be like 7.3L per 100km .
If i put on my K&N then jialat , smooth highway 120kph can get 7.6 - 7.8 , once jam 8.3 ...... hahaha

QUOTE(IceBikers @ Nov 14 2016, 09:45 AM)
thanks, but if using 10w30, shud be fine right ?
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Yes you may use 10w/30 as it is still same 30 rating. But you have to factor in the type of oil you're using ( Mineral base or Semi-Mineral base or Fully Synthetic base ) to determine your service intervals.
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QUOTE(crazeeclan @ Nov 14 2016, 03:12 PM)
anyone in here change their brake system ( caliper and disc rotor) to different car model system...example Honda odyssey? my alza brake really suxz...even change to brembo disc rotor and trw pad...i still feel the brake not really that "makan"..
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Bro , Alza is well known to have less efficient braking grip due to the nature Auto Transmission.
If you want to get shorter braking distance, try equip with a good set of brake pads and brake disc then flush your brake system with a better brake fluid.
Make sure your rear brakes is adjusted about every 10k km. You can perform self rear brake adjustment by yourself by fully stepping your foot brake then apply full pressure on your brakes. Repeat few times and test and see your brake pedal feel is firmer.
A good set of tyres will help stopping distance as well.
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QUOTE(lonelylilpig @ Nov 15 2016, 10:15 AM)
Bro , Alza is well known to have less efficient braking grip due to the nature Auto Transmission.
If you want to get shorter braking distance, try equip with a good set of brake pads and brake disc then flush your brake system with a better brake fluid.
Make sure your rear brakes is adjusted about every 10k km. You can perform self rear brake adjustment by yourself by fully stepping your foot brake then apply full pressure on your brakes. Repeat few times and test and see your brake pedal feel is firmer.
A good set of tyres will help stopping distance as well.
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Ya.. I do agree, the manual transmission Alza has better grip. Not sure it is due to the ABS. The non ABS better grip.

I know the feel of brake not makan, especically downhill. Press all still jalan.. hahahhaa

Changing the disc and pads does help. Brake fluid should as long as we change the the same spec kua.

The self adjustment, have not try it..thanks for the tips.

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Nov 14 2016, 12:23 PM)
I would like to ask, usually what is the lifespan of a tire? measured in mileage?

what's the price for replacing tire currently?
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depending brand and spec. Also how your daily route.

for safety & budget I always trust Michelin XM2. About RM200 - 225/ pcs 185/60/R15
I change to XM2 during 20,000KM. 2nd change when clock 100,000Km this April 16. I don't feel much different change for old XM2 to new XM2, meaning the product quality quite balance. Not like some brand only good before 20%~30% use ..after that doh.gif
My friend's Alza XM2 still using after 100,000KM mileage, because he mainly drive highway.

Recently found another options. BF Goodrich tyre, 100 years US brand now under Michelin. Model : Advantage T/A Drive
Another friend's Alza just change it 195/55/15 RM600 1 set. Special offer by a shop in Bangi. Tested grip very good and worth the price.
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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Nov 15 2016, 09:55 AM)
Steel Braided hose.. it actually improve the braking (feel) to be less spongy-ness.  As our normal rubber hose would expand when brake pedal is pressed.  My friend changed it to steel braided hose on his persona (some local well known brand), not sure it is P** RS or AR******.

It looks nice on hand and he changed it plus branded brake fluid.  Ended hell, where the hose 'leaking' one after another.  Even though they provide 1-1 change on the 'defective' hose, it kena again, just within 1-2 month time and he kena xcident where the leaking made no pressure on the pump.
Habis fluid tu, he brake and no brake at all, avoided banging into a bike, but ended up into another car.

After we check thru the hose, it is a total design flaw.  They said can change 1-1, fxxx them la.  Go back to original and he just change to a better pad and new disc (TRW, i think).

Brake hose is key item to jaga too, where during alignment or balancing, go look at the hose to see the condition of the hose (cracks etc).

Since most of us has 100k mileage or >4-5 years car, best to have a frequent check on the hose during service too. Drive safe.
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mine also sleaking after using for around 3 month...then change 1 to 1 ...then once i hard brake...the joint part snap out....i have to pull my handbrake to stop my car....
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QUOTE(lonelylilpig @ Nov 15 2016, 10:15 AM)
Bro , Alza is well known to have less efficient braking grip due to the nature Auto Transmission.
If you want to get shorter braking distance, try equip with a good set of brake pads and brake disc then flush your brake system with a better brake fluid.
Make sure your rear brakes is adjusted about every 10k km. You can perform self rear brake adjustment by yourself by fully stepping your foot brake then apply full pressure on your brakes. Repeat few times and test and see your brake pedal feel is firmer.
A good set of tyres will help stopping distance as well.
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im using brembo disc rotor and trw pad...and still the same....im using195.50.16 Continental CPC2 tyre...

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Nov 10 2016, 01:30 PM)
Before pass my alza to my friend, already clock 190k km, maintenance wise

1. Change all 4 tyre 3 times
2. Change front brake pad 3 times
3. Change full set absorber with mounting at 100k km
4. Change atf every 20k or 30k km
5. Normal service every 10k km
6. Numerous times change headlight and foglamp bulb before installing voltage stabilizer and grounding cable
7. Change floorboard carpet due to water seep in from buzzer wiring

Iinm my alza dont have any other big issue

To improve wind noise and sound insulation, me do

1. Install door sound proofing
2. Install extra rubber weatherstrip at all 4 door

Satisfy with my alza during my usage eventhough cannot compare with my opel zafira becoz different segment
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QUOTE(tankx3 @ Nov 11 2016, 01:34 PM)
I'm facelift SE user. Now 83+k km
1st set tyre till about 73k km
Change one fog lamp bulb and one headlight bulb (able to claim from sc ?)
Two sets of brake pads from outside sc.
Rattling solved quite early, now no more
Middle row seat adjustment lever screw came out twice. Now ok.
No modification. All is fine till now smile.gif
Service and price is acceptable.
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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Nov 11 2016, 02:31 PM)
The common issues are captured here and brought forward from the previous thread.

I have 1st gen version Alza, clocking 5 year now this month with 120k km.
No major issues so far and maintenance is very affordable (*outside)

1. Tyres = currently 4th set (with the 1st set ori tyres running <10k)
2. brake pads = front change 3 times, rear 1 time
3. absorbers = 1 time at 80k km
4. Change atf every 20k or 30k km
5. Normal service every 7-10k km, depending what oil using.
6. water pump = changed at 70k due to bearing sound and slight leaking.
7. Coolant = changed 1 time at 80k (DIY)
8. Battery = 3rd unit now, normally changed every 2 years.
9. Buzzer wiring - flooding the driver side floor, DIY checking.. will check next round as raining season now.
10. wheel alignment + balancing every 8-10k.
11. cabin filter - changed every year. 
12. light bulbs - 3 pcs so far if remembered correctly (using Osram/Philips/Bosch)
13. Engine V belt - changed during the water pump changed.

Engine - stock with hotbits extractor.
Body - front strut bar, pivot voltage stabilizer, grounding
Body - sound proofing on doors, roof and side sills.  wheel arch bitumen sprays.
Rim - changed rims as ori 2 rims bengkok.
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Thanks guys for the feedback. Now i cant decide whether to get White or Silver. My fear for white is after a while it gets yellowish ? true ?
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post Nov 15 2016, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(xavier1782 @ Nov 15 2016, 12:30 PM)
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Thanks guys for the feedback. Now i cant decide whether to get White or Silver. My fear for white is after a while it gets yellowish ? true ?
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Solid white would if not jaga frequently. Silver would be the easiest to maintain of all colors.

All paint just need some proper cleaning/washing, for maintain, just waxing (with polishing if needed) at least every 3-6 mths if can.
Nowadays, many ease to use water wax which just spray, apply and wipe off.

Now I am testing nano rapid coating which is imported. non-permanent type. Applied on my bike where it shines, now have to see whether it last 2 months.
Not very expensive, about RM50-60 a bottle.
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post Nov 15 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Nov 15 2016, 12:05 PM)
Ya.. I do agree, the manual transmission Alza has better grip.  Not sure it is due to the ABS.  The non ABS better grip.

I know the feel of brake not makan, especically downhill.  Press all still jalan.. hahahhaa

Changing the disc and pads does help.  Brake fluid should as long as we change the the same spec kua.

The self adjustment, have not try it..thanks for the tips.
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Bro, one way for me to know Alza Transmission is the culprit to bad braking is if u put N ( not really recommend to repeatedly doing it la, i duno whats the real consequences ) u tend to brake grip harder than if your engage in D .

Parking brake automatically adjust by itself when brake shoes wear off bit by bit, so usually I would forcefully adjust it more or i just jack up my rear end DIY adjust my brake shoes .... hahaha

For brake fluid, yes Daihatsu and Toyota brake systems tend to recommend DOT 3. In many books it says ABS usually recommends the usage of DOT 4 ( eventhough SC says do not know what will happen if change to DOT 4 ) so i have replace mine to DOT 4 and it has firmer brake pedal feel.

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