dunno la ... u go count la .. 11000kv BL motor at 3.7v .. main gear dunno how many teeth .. pinion is 16t ... so cannot count ... hahahaahahahaaa

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Added on June 17, 2009, 11:09 am

aiyoo boss ... just put here la what price u slash
no need to go look all over the place like orang buta only ... hehehehe

let him trash it kow kow until the tail motor die 1st laa ...
coz the upgrade costs to brushless tail is around usd35 ... u add that up with the current one oso almost the same price liau ... plus u get it sooner than end of JULY .. hehehehe

i still juggling btwn 4#3 or another 4g3 ..

Since for the Neon FP and Compy 300 V2 also need TX and RX, so it will cost aroundrm1.2k.... , i think out of my bugget already..........

Esky honeybee is FP too but currently is hard to find for this model.....i wana find some is more simple to fly and cheap to repair as i still beginner level.......

I found that in this forum, the walkera 4G3 and 4#3B is the most popular....... i think the 4#3B is good to fly for indoor but someone said can fly for outdoor as well????true? For the walkera 4#3B will out the full brushless , what he different? Need all the sifu here before decide buy which heli .....

Upgrade to Mode 2 liao lor... Much more easier to control...
HBFP2 original is Mode 1 so is harder to learn...
But due to is using Tail motor so it abit hard to control...
You need to always fight with the tail even when hovering...
Unless your setting is damn chun lar... but the tail will still drift sometimes...

So for beginner is best to start with FP heli...
But the 4#3B is too small for my liking...
That y bought this HBFP2... simple to repair... easy to crash  ...
cheap part... mostly need CA only to repair... 

Also upgradeable to use belt driven rear rotor...
Brushless and HH Gyro capable...
Guru Z Neon FP frame can get locally...
So basically good heli to start with...
Hahahahahaha.... 

So fast out of stock liao arrr....then no choice lor.....must go for full brushless liao.....

hover in the house is asking for it one lorr using the hbfp ...
but cliffang can hover his 450 in ROOM worr ... i oso hover my 4g3 in room lately .. hahaahahaa

btw .. i just finished assembling my 450 pro head ... too many parts laaa ... then have to locktite locktite which is the part i dont like
tomoro prolly do the tail

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Added on June 19, 2009, 7:48 amgot one more place to call for the wire ... google search malaysia oso that name turned up for 1st few pages of the search engine ... they must have what i want la then but dunno whether they are manufacturer or retailer

hover in the house is asking for it one lorr using the hbfp ...
but cliffang can hover his 450 in ROOM worr ... i oso hover my 4g3 in room lately .. hahaahahaa

btw .. i just finished assembling my 450 pro head ... too many parts laaa ... then have to locktite locktite which is the part i dont like
tomoro prolly do the tail

time for standalone gyro liau ... hahahahaa

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Added on June 19, 2009, 10:47 am

3M double sided tape is oso very good i have heard ... u used to strap velcro to the gyro one ah ??
i suppose the strap will transfer vibrations to the heli that causes gyro crazee abit laa

who said cannot ??
dump the 4n1 ... use a futaba/spektrum/etc rx .. kowtim ... hahahahahahaa

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Added on June 19, 2009, 11:15 am

good ... saved rm400 liau can go get the miniature heli .. hehehehe

u using the align esc with built BEC 35a ah ??? what servos u using ??

hows the performance of the mg14 ?? good ??
i might have to buy some to keep as replacement for the align stock ones .. hahahha

the ds410m from align alot of ppl complain in the internet ... intermittent failure sometimes or so it seems la
those intermittent failures are enuff to cause u to drop to ground liau lorr .. hahahaha

but apparently it only applies to ppl using 450 pro so far .. some say it is becoz of the frame of the 450 pro so tight that alot/most ppl forced the servos in and over tighten them worngly ... that causes the binding within the servo itself due to stress on the servo casing ... and thats the thing that causes servo failure for the ds410m in the 450 pro

now u know how much i read and why i am taking my own sweet time to build the 450 pro ??? hahahahahahaa

its about the same standard according to internet .. only thing is the hitec performance and reliability is proven .. for the align performance but reliability issue ...
so far ppl put it in the pro and no complaints yet
maybe the casing of the hitec can take stress better

i will just try with the stock align ones 1st laa .. i will to fit in the servos as best as i can without compressing or stressing the casings ... see if they hold up in reliability or not ... if they do then its the installation thing liau

i cannot afford la weiii ... now still sourcing for the wires ... no flight time is damm kow depressing
just now whack the sim until heli oso cannot stand me liau ... hahahaaha
my orientations in ff bf inverted ff are getting very good in the sim .. real life i suppose there is still panic and fear of crashing that affects the pilot laaa

i just cannot catch the timing to do piro flips laa .. looks nice but the rudder damm kow slow in the sim unlike in real life
i have bumped up my physics in sim to 120% since long ago ... maybe i need to bump it up another 10% just to make sure old man reflexes like mine still works properly .. hehehehe

u are re-builder ma ... so enjoy rebuilding lorr .. i enjoy FLYING !! hahahahahaa

then she will say why not every nite go for 2 ROUNDS then go sleep ?? huahahahahaaa

my console collecting dust .. PC games are better for me ...

not only no time for heli .. no time for anything liau coz u will be dead exhausted during the day and bz servicing during the nite
later u scared until dont dare to go home then u know .. hahahahaahaha

dont hover hover in room la since u already know how to fly ... take it out and let it loose !!!

pics of my rewound 2.9g outrunner .. my 1st ever rewind
quality of the rewind is not as good la of coz ... but everything works .. hehehe

It seems like lately u spent a lot of time flying your 4g3. No need bring your fm or kids go walk walk meh?

I feel very itchy to get my 4#3b...... I feel very sian flying my coaxial heli liao.....

me not engineer la ... i used to want to be an engineer when i was small .. went to U and did 2 yrs of engineering but end up i came out accountant ... hahahahaha

i take the time to go read and search etc etc ... after i get all the info and materials i need then i try lorr ... the effort is a must in order to make things work

btw .. this morning after seeing my hovering the 4g3 .. fx20v said i could hover the 450 easily liau laa .. hahahahaa

actually if u eye-ing the 4g3 ... the one uniqueXme selling with less than 10 flights is worth it la .. the conversion to BL tail is only usd35 P&P from walkera themselves

eerrr ... is this how everything should go if i wanna spektrum my 4G3 ??

i am still short on info .. info on ppl who spektrum their 4g3 are few and scattered all over
plus me newbie in the hobby .. makes things even worse
then thing that makes me wanna spektrum the 4g3 is becoz #1 i can use my dx7 with it .. #2 HH gyro ... hahahahahaaa

cliffang ... since u are in the hobby longer i would assume u are more familiar with the way the electronics work on heli

would the servos of the 4g3 work with a spektrum receiver ??
spektrum receiver voltage will be bumped up to 5v or so using voltage step up module
the output of the receiver to the servos are what voltages ?? 5v ?? i dunno if the servos of the 4G3 can take 5v ..

hmm ... like this i wait for u to get your 4g3 or 4#3 and convert to spektrum/JR (they are the same sheet anyways)
then i follow .. dont wanna go the next step without full info la me .. hehehe

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Added on June 22, 2009, 9:33 am

ya .. will take video soon and put up ... damm tired and lazee liau after last 2 days .. hahahaaha