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 Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V2, Turbo still kicking yo!

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bryangia
post Jul 29 2016, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 29 2016, 12:56 PM)
I using petrol ron97 but will change to 95 after the next pump
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Dude, Consider to keep it with RON97 to minimize the carbon deposit on intake valve? DI engine need extra care.
In Malaysia, RON95 is euro 2 grade, and RON97 is euro4 grade, meaning RON97 is much more cleaner.
Below is some link for the reason behind.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/intake_valve...gdi_engines.htm
http://thechronicleherald.ca/wheelsnews/13...irect-injection

This post has been edited by bryangia: Jul 29 2016, 01:50 PM
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post Jul 29 2016, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Sanity @ Jul 29 2016, 01:01 PM)
Mine avg 9km/l...jam all the way to office and back home. distance probably 7 to 8 km. oil life sucks too...800km mileage and oil life is 8400km
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Yeah me too avg about 9km/l only, daily jam bumper to bumper to office and back home. Oil life drop 2x faster vs actual mileage. Meaning have to change engine oil every 5000km or less shakehead.gif
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post Jul 29 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jul 29 2016, 01:00 PM)
Haha,

Tis is kinda sticky point.. abt how useless is burning a higher octane fuel when a cheaper lower one suffices..
But in my experiences.. 97 gives a little better FC [ I hv experimented n it gvs me a 1 to 2% better mileage - of cos it is not worth it to fill up wif 97 for FC alone..]
Oso, l read tat de petrol companies add better 'cleaners/additive' to their more 'expensive' fuel [kinda makes sense] n for de direct injection turbo Civic especially, itll help in keeping de engine cleaner [note tat .. the 'ang-mohs' recommend a 'catch-tank' - injen's de name to help tis - but tis voids warranty la.. ]

Me no expert - jus sharing wat l have read
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Oh, it is not the "knocking" thing concerns or the Fuel consumption concern, is about the cleanliness of the fuel to minimize the carbon deposit on the intake valve. For "knocking" concern, if I remember correctly, the manual is recommend RON91 or above?

RON95 is euro 2 grade while RON97 is euro 4 grade, meaning RON97 is cleaner. To take good care of the DI engine, cleaner gasoline will be better to minimize the carbon deposit.
With Turbo DI engine, I will get RON97. smile.gif

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post Jul 29 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(bryangia @ Jul 29 2016, 01:48 PM)
Dude, Consider to keep it with RON97 to minimize the carbon deposit on intake valve? DI engine need extra care.
In Malaysia, RON95 is euro 2 grade, and RON97 is euro4 grade, meaning RON97 is much more cleaner.
Below is some link for the reason behind.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/intake_valve...gdi_engines.htm
http://thechronicleherald.ca/wheelsnews/13...irect-injection
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Yes. If really pump RON 95, go for BHP with euro 3-4 grade. I always pump BHP RON 95.

"During the launch of Infiniti Advanced2X petrol, available in both the RON95 and RON97, James Khoo, BHPetrol's retail and supply director revealed that the sulphur content in BHPetrol's fuel are on average 75 percent lower than the Euro 2M standard mandated by Malaysian authorities.

James said the actual sulphur content may differ slightly from one shipment to another, but they will never exceed 200 ppm (parts per million), which is still well below the Euro 2M standard of 500 ppm.

On certain shipments, they may even go as low as 12 ppm, which is already approaching the Euro 5 standard of 10 ppm"

http://www.mai.org.my/ver1/index.php?optio...ble-at-bhpetrol

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post Jul 29 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(berann @ Jul 29 2016, 01:57 PM)
Yes. If really pump RON 95, go for BHP with euro 3-4 grade. I always pump BHP RON 95.

"During the launch of Infiniti Advanced2X petrol, available in both the RON95 and RON97, James Khoo, BHPetrol's retail and supply director revealed that the sulphur content in BHPetrol's fuel are on average 75 percent lower than the Euro 2M standard mandated by Malaysian authorities.

James said the actual sulphur content may differ slightly from one shipment to another, but they will never exceed 200 ppm (parts per million), which is still well below the Euro 2M standard of 500 ppm.

On certain shipments, they may even go as low as 12 ppm, which is already approaching the Euro 5 standard of 10 ppm"

http://www.mai.org.my/ver1/index.php?optio...ble-at-bhpetrol
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Yeah...not sure when Malaysia can have Euro 5 standard or above like other country.... still waiting.... lol
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post Jul 29 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(bryangia @ Jul 29 2016, 01:56 PM)
Oh, it is not the "knocking" thing concerns or the Fuel consumption concern, is about the cleanliness of the fuel to minimize the carbon deposit on the intake valve. For "knocking" concern, if I remember correctly, the manual is recommend RON91 or above?

RON95 is euro 2 grade while RON97 is euro 4 grade, meaning RON97 is cleaner. To take good care of the DI engine, cleaner gasoline will be better to minimize the carbon deposit.
With Turbo DI engine, I will get RON97. smile.gif
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Hey bro,

I am a convert of better fuel.. of cos when times are hard n every little bit counts .. its hard to pump 97 .., Difference can be quite a lot for a tankful..
BHP not very convenient for Penangite as minimal stations ..

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post Jul 29 2016, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jul 29 2016, 02:02 PM)
Hey bro,

I am a convert of better fuel.. of cos when times are hard n every little bit counts .. its hard to pump 97 .., Difference can be quite a lot for a tankful..
BHP not very convenient for Penangite as minimal stations ..

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totally understand bro !!! just some sharing... smile.gif
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post Jul 29 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(bryangia @ Jul 29 2016, 02:01 PM)
Yeah...not sure when Malaysia can have Euro 5 standard or above like other country.... still waiting.... lol
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LOL,

Dont hold your breath .. Bolehland politics more side the big companies than us Rakyat.. l tink govt give until 202-sumting kut for de petrol companies to come up wif new less polluting fuel..
BHP is doing on its own accord [ or at least l tink its cos they buy from Sgp n tis is de lowest fuel they have.. ]

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post Jul 29 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(bryangia @ Jul 29 2016, 01:48 PM)
Dude, Consider to keep it with RON97 to minimize the carbon deposit on intake valve? DI engine need extra care.
In Malaysia, RON95 is euro 2 grade, and RON97 is euro4 grade, meaning RON97 is much more cleaner.
Below is some link for the reason behind.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/intake_valve...gdi_engines.htm
http://thechronicleherald.ca/wheelsnews/13...irect-injection
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i remember there was a debate about 95vs97 in v1 thread and there's slightly difference with pumping 95
correct me if i'm wrong

many people go for bhp/shelll but i always go for petron because of the membership points and sometime got a free gift
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 29 2016, 02:20 PM)
i remember there was a debate about 95vs97 in v1 thread and there's slightly difference with pumping 95
correct me if i'm wrong

many people go for bhp/shelll but i always go for petron because of the membership points and sometime got a free gift
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IMO,

Shell fuel suxs.. BHP is not bad but l fill wif Caltex.. it gvs me de best FC..

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post Jul 29 2016, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jul 29 2016, 02:24 PM)
IMO,

Shell fuel suxs.. BHP is not bad but l fill wif Caltex.. it gvs me de best FC..

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bhp/caltex is good with ron95 but no difference with all ron97 IINM

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post Jul 29 2016, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(berann @ Jul 29 2016, 01:50 PM)
Yeah me too avg about 9km/l only, daily jam bumper to bumper to office and back home. Oil life drop 2x faster vs actual mileage. Meaning have to change engine oil every 5000km or less  shakehead.gif
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Wow glad I found someone the same...many people are boasting the fuel efficiency of 12-20km/litre and good oil life have worried me.

I actually looked at is from this point, my current monthly usage is about 800-1000km and oil life consumption is about 1600 to 2000km....so servicing is also about 5 to 6 months haha

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post Jul 29 2016, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sanity @ Jul 29 2016, 02:32 PM)
Wow glad I found someone the same...many people are boasting the fuel efficiency of 12-20km/litre and good oil life have made me worry
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no bro, always been saying i got lousy-ish fc. 100% city driving, getting average of 10.5-11.2 km/l on the meter (actual should be +- 10%) with eco mode on during jams (does not much)

car should also be somewhat broken in, coming close to 1300kms now
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QUOTE(hamrog @ Jul 29 2016, 02:42 PM)
no bro, always been saying i got lousy-ish fc. 100% city driving, getting average of 10.5-11.2 km/l on the meter (actual should be +- 10%) with eco mode on during jams (does not much)

car should also be somewhat broken in, coming close to 1300kms now
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Your city driving is bumper to bumper? my avg speed since I took my car is 18 to 20 km/h lol
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post Jul 29 2016, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Sanity @ Jul 29 2016, 02:48 PM)
Your city driving is bumper to bumper? my avg speed since I took my car is 18 to 20 km/h lol
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I think I can break down my trip to office and back to be
20% bumper to bumper
50% around 40-60kmh
30% around 20-40kmh
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QUOTE(bryangia @ Jul 29 2016, 01:56 PM)
Oh, it is not the "knocking" thing concerns or the Fuel consumption concern, is about the cleanliness of the fuel to minimize the carbon deposit on the intake valve. For "knocking" concern, if I remember correctly, the manual is recommend RON91 or above?

RON95 is euro 2 grade while RON97 is euro 4 grade, meaning RON97 is cleaner. To take good care of the DI engine, cleaner gasoline will be better to minimize the carbon deposit.
With Turbo DI engine, I will get RON97. smile.gif
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Agreed. Anyway, its to protect the catalytic converter too. I will pump only RON97 until RON95 is EURO4M in 2018

QUOTE(bryangia @ Jul 29 2016, 02:01 PM)
Yeah...not sure when Malaysia can have Euro 5 standard or above like other country.... still waiting.... lol
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http://<paul.tan.website.address/2015/12/02/euro-5-petrol-gazetted-to-arrive-in-2025-diesel-in-2020/

Now - Diesel EURO5 (at some stations), RON97 EURO4M, RON95 EURO2M
By 1 October 2018 - all fuel is EURO4M compliant (RON95, RON97)
By 1 September 2025 - all fuel is EURO5 compliant
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i set auto light sensitivity to min but no difference with default setting. anyone experienced this?
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post Jul 29 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 29 2016, 03:52 PM)
i set auto light sensitivity to min but no difference with default setting. anyone experienced this?
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On tis,

I do believe the pros outweigh the cons in tis .. l mean nvr ever suffering a dead battery cos forgot to off de head lites is sooo usefull...
So ya .. u do lose sum kms per ltr when it comes on when its a bit light..

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jul 29 2016, 03:52 PM)
i set auto light sensitivity to min but no difference with default setting. anyone experienced this?
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Mind to share how to set auto headlight sensitivity to min. ? by HU?
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QUOTE(Prop.Observer @ Jul 29 2016, 04:03 PM)
Mind to share how to set auto headlight sensitivity to min. ? by HU?
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