banKarl, I guess you shouldn't be bothered about those special tags awarded to certain forumers or even those safe trader tags, they don't mean anything lah, it's not like you're being given a Datuk title from the King. I'm tagless but so what, I can still trade here with no problems. Building up your reputation is not about knowing or having ties with the big shots in LYN or having a 10,000 post count or has became a senior member a decade ago. This does not matter. As a forumer, you can contribute to the forum, like for example, if someone is having problems with their hardware, you can volunteer to help them stey-by-step and you can also mix around with other members in any discussions. Be part of the family but don't spam lah. However, if you're just merely posting sales threads here, I guess nobody will know you and you're still be a newbie even after a year or two. Anyway for a start, if you're willing to do COD, who will doubt you in the first place since for COD, the buyer has nothing to loose so I don't think that the newbie thing is a problem for you but if there are people disturbing you because you're a newbie, the Report button is always there for you but use it wisely and don't abuse it.

Goldfries is right, if the seller sells their products at cut throat prices, they are to be blamed if they can't sell them here so we shouldn't worry about that. Sometimes, some forumers are not giving comments but more like messing around because if they're giving a friendly comment, they should do it in a proper manner, don't post comments which can affect one's sales. This is no different from hijacking somebody's sales thread.

imperialrealcs, you're not complete right about Lelong, no doubt it is an auction site but there are sellers offering buy it now option and the prices are sometimes cheaper. I won't disclose the details here (I'm safeguarding the interests of other sellers here) but when you're free, you can go and compare it yourself, I managed to get a few good deals from that site. Anyway, just be fair to the sellers in LYN, if you're expecting to buy something at half price just because that's all you got in your pocket, I guess it's better to keep quiet than to mess up someone's sales thread hoping desperately that the seller will lower his or her price. That's not how it's done here. If one person do this, the next person will do it, the next thing you know, the whole community will do the same thing, in the end, the whole forum will be in a mess with people flaming each other. It won't do any good to the forum in the long run.

Existing or new members should be educated to do the right thing and flaming each other is chidlish and also a waste of time, bandwidth and storage space of the forum here.

again, check it out what is provided
coz u say can get new rm500 ma, then i let u c the current market price lo
im not expecting for waterfish.. besides, its not me who decide the selling price lol
all item by me mostly are nego and at low price.. check out my other item as well
i told him that the price is unreasonable n he refuse to sell at any lower price hence the thread are close?

im certainly agree with u

jeopardizing sales or not is very subjective.. i hope any admin can give more advice since mod cant really decide anything.. besides, why we wana waste time to write those crap even we noe ur selling price are high? because we dont want to be waterfish, so as other people so informing in that manner is actually helping buyer to decide.. besides, not everyone unethical as u

u get me wrong.. i didnt say lelong are all expensive.. i juz say if dont wana let people comment on ur selling price, go ahead to lelong n put the price as expensive as u 1 and if u r registered member, u can even close the QnA feature

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Jan 20 2007, 02:16 AM

1 thg for sure, the very moment when i click da "add reply" button after i typed LOL i did laugh, unlike u.

by calling others dumb wud make u smarter, be it. continue on with da way u handle da garage sales.

reading lowyat.net is already a way of research, and if every jokers like u would delete da appropriate price sum1 posted up as a ref, ur just wasting da buyers time to go and search for it.

LOL.

unethical? look at you guys, you're a bunch of spam-goons and you got the cheek to call me unethical?you're not even ethical on the forum in the first place.

and there's no reason for you people to spam. 1 post is enough.

if that 1 post can't save a waterfish, do you think spamming the thread with 20 repeated stuff will save the waterfish?

what does saving a waterfish mean so much to you that you people have to spam the LYN servers with a plethora of posts that drone the same message? 1 post is enough.




and so? you spammed. anti-spam hammer comes!!!



my opinion.



FYI if we only do magic tricks on them re-runs.


This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 20 2007, 02:18 AM

im not talking about 1 post is enough thingy.. im talking bout the urge to post flame on highly priced item..because im 1 of the waterfish once upon a time n i hope nobody is being a waterfish expecially when buying stuff from me or any other thread.. am i wrong having such mentality? or must i learn to adapt ur mentality?

i agree, someone is willing to sell another willing to buy. Bose hifi is selling for RM10K, 9 out of 10 who is into hifi will tell u not to buy a Bose. Is it worth it ? i think it's up to you to evaluate it.

a typical example, 100 CDR for RM 80 but 1 CDR for RM 1. It's no wrong or right in this case. Mathematically, it should be RM 0.80 for 1. But in real life, this just don't happen.

no time to do research is a lame excuse, but guess what, ppl still eat it. Even the mod accept it my friend who traded here is one of the good example where buyer doesn't do research. I guess they do not walk what they talk.

well i cant stop u from bein the way u r, even if u wanted to delete the others and left ony 1 to save the "waterfish" shouldnt u choose the 1 could really save da fellow?out of all msges u choosed the flamer which made me "LOL"ed. hahaha

once beaten, twice shy. live and learn.

and why were you a waterfish? tell me. tell us. WHY?

lastly..... why would you want to post a flame when you have the choice to post in a polite manner than informs others?

before you say other unethical - how about making yourself ethical in the first place? a sense of maintaining proper conduct on TZ would be appreciated.

i'm not saying it is good for people to wait for waterfish, but it not wrong for them to do so. and if you wish to save waterfish, by all means it's great. just don't over-do it.


however you missed the fact the final post was MINE and my post is obvious enough to indicate that the price is HIGH.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 20 2007, 02:27 AM

thatz y, its best if sum1 could save da day rite?

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This post has been edited by banKarl: May 12 2022, 10:00 AM

you are one joker, u posted RM200 for a 1GB RAM as a reference, tomorrow it might be RM180 or RM 230 (yes it RAM price did go up b4, it's not always down). So now u tell me, i still sell for RM200 because the reference say so ? u might as well do not have the bloody reference if the price is not going to be used and accurate ? are you stupid enough to buy the RAM at RM 300 when everywhere else is selling for RM 230 ?

takut benda takut, having tags isnt everythg . if u wanna voice out just do so.
i've traded alot here and yet i dun even have a trade list. its just a waste of time for me yet nt for others. if ure afraid of them so much, u work hard like them and get 1 for urself.

and hey, ure da guy talking bout newbies should be treated better and bla bla bla. u cant blame others bein prejudise i guess, lotta troublemaker in dis zone were newbies. so just be patient and get use to da way of lyn.

like duh - i don't have the habit of quoting the portions i don't need.

and now you have problem with me bringing up R&R?

i already explained to you why newbies are treated differently. i think that settles the matter already.

yup. correct.

don't blame the tagged people for irrational fears cooked-up by paranoid minds.

heck look at the helpdesk / feedback area, look at the TZ Resource Center. how many newbies have voiced up - any action taken? NO.......unless they are in violation of R&R.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 20 2007, 02:34 AM

im a waterfish because im noob? dont check the latest price etc? but u cant expect everyone to do so
polite manner as in? over do as in? maintaining proper conduct?
i've listed everything crucial in the sales thread (as given template).. what more do u need?
talking about unethical, why uglyvamp still hold his safe trader tag? care to look into that topic? (off topic)

no such thing, my friend who got a green tag got hit by a Safe Trader. And that fellow is still having his Safe Trader when he 'doesn't have time to do his research'. The best part, mod still thinks he's a safe trader. So contradict to wat goldfries posted just now.

lol, if u dun knw anythg, i guess its better if u keep ur opinion to urself. anyway,
ref doesnt mean u have to follow it exactly, its just a suggestion. well if u wanted to follow go ahead, if not be it. and i dun knw y are u comparing sumthg which is totally irrelavent to da topic. im a 3rd party here, which is C. A is selling sumthg at price which no body wud even dare to bargain, which is B. and here comes C to tell dis fellow da appropriate price which is wat most lyn selling. saving both buyer and sellers time. however therez the 4th party rite now, party D which is skolding and deleting all other post which could help.

man wat a world. hahaha, are u the 4th party? party D?

ahh. so now you want to spoonfeed people. good for you.

it's a common mistake. i makes people smarter. you know that.



how about.....

dear sir, i find that your price is pretty high as the current market rate is far lower than the price you've set.

i think you should consider changing your price to a more appropriate range.

thank you, sorry to bother you.




flaming, spamming, posting nonsense. re-runs / repeats. balbalbla. aiyah all that i mentioned earlier.




no idea. i'm not the one who awards tags. you can go find out with whoever that's handling tags.


sorry. care to explain? you have problem, bring it up at the TZ-DRC.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 20 2007, 02:40 AM

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This post has been edited by banKarl: May 12 2022, 10:01 AM

no i don't have a problem, just pity him, btw, he got fedup with this forum and left for good.

Yes yes I know you are giving all those things. But 2nd hand is 2nd hand + there's nth great abt those extra freebies.
Did I said RM500? R u sure? I said "about that" which means RM5xx. New set = Rm5xx & your set = RM500? Isn't that overpriced?
& moreover you have put the word "firm" there next to the price. So, this is in what category, low price or negotiable?

"i told him that the price is unreasonable n he refuse to sell at any lower price hence the thread are close?" (extract from your quote)
Well, I guess you didn't get my point. WHY DO YOU WANA OPEN SUCH SALES THREAD AT THE FIRST PLACE? You should know that it's unreasonable & tell him that you cant/will not open such thread.....but u did open..y? coz you wana give a try - agree? So, how can you flame others when you do the same?

Ok, i also saw your other thread. I'm interested with your Asus P4V8X-X & Bluetooth Dongle v1.2 (NEW). Can you sell them for RM 0.50 each???