Some people are sensitive about being flame.. for example if you did not post a complete thread to sell things :

Item A
Price : Offer me

Then if people offer low low.. you will say, WTF so low I better keep it to myself!

It's actually own fault.

I suspect some people created a new account to make ridiculous offers...can't really point them out but most of the stupid offers are from newbies which just register or a few months old...i just ignore them and thats the best practice....You may feel hurt but you can treat this people as "mentally challenged people" coming to disturb ur shop so just ask them to get lost/don't layan

i disagree. when someone says OFFER ME, he / she is expecting REASONABLE offers. it's a totally fair approach.

it's the people who OFFERED that's being ridiculous. if only they have a bit of brain and think for themselves.........."would i sell it at that price? if i won't, why da heck am i asking people to sell me at that price?!??!"

You may PM the Admins should you notice forummers having duplicate accounts

a real fine example of people flaming the thread starter...i am involve but i cant help it,see who is being ridicilious here....it just cant be help it but in your case i think u re offering just a little bit overpriced...so no need to flames so hard...it still is acceptable for your price,but some ppl are hmmm...really cekik darah

click the word below...


flame on

This post has been edited by kaiser_falco: Jan 19 2007, 06:33 PM

The answe to such problems is always simple but never practiced.

Just tell kacau'ing fella to bugger off if he/she can find better price and report. Easy but sometimes, egoism has to prevail, right eh goldfries?

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This post has been edited by banKarl: May 12 2022, 09:58 AM

If you're happy about anything, with the mods or how things are run here, you can always start a thread here, Main Site/Forum Feedback and Helpdesk to give your feedback. I'm sure the Forum Admin will take note of this.

I have nothing against newbies personally and it's wrong to have the perception that it's not safe to deal with newbies because newbies need to start from somewhere to build up their successful trade list so if everyone is shying away from newbies, how are they supposed to sell here? For a start, you should do COD or something to build up people's confidence in you. I know it's a teething problem for you but I'm sure you'll be able to overcome it somehow. So, I hereby wish you all the best.

it's a simple question of trust really. With so many scam cases coming notably from low level posters who are barely seen or noticed, it makes alot of people wary of newbie's doing sales here. Look at trade disputes and you'll see barely a day goes by without someone making a ruckus about a deal gone bad. Trust is a very subjective issues especially after that jackass Shahrilwan conned lots of LYN'ers not only once but 3 times over.

With all that sort of nonsense going on, do you think someone with no known track record would be trusted easily. My only advice to you is to prve yourself by merit. Everyone has to start from somewhere at it's tough these days as the trading traffic increases greatly everyday over at LYN. So if you want to persevere, no harming doing so as respect is gained and you'll have better rep.

Correct no?

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This post has been edited by banKarl: May 12 2022, 09:59 AM

you can always hit the button for Staff's / Admin's attention should you have any dissatisfaction.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=373416&hl=
read on
actually i think giving comment is good if the seller put unreasonable price.. this can prevent sui yu from kena trap n later make complaint here n there XD
u wana sell what price as u like, forum based platform is not suitable unless u willing to listen to their comment
wana sell high price? go lelong.com.my or the likes
im sure nobody will give comment there..

Giving comments or feedback is always good. But my point is, shouldn't it be polite enough & appropriate so that it doesn't spoil the seller's thread?

I'm selling my item & I have full control over it in terms of price etc. I can sell any price that i wish to. As a buyer, you like you buy, otherwise bye-bye from my thread. Another option is to PM me regarding the unreasonable price or post a comment at my thread in a good manner. Once I feel that the my sales has no response from buyer, I will change my mind, either to lower the price or not to sell.

Would you like if I say to you, "hey you are wasting LYN time here. Why not you think properly before posting something here. You really don't think at all," etc...
or will you agree to sell your expensive phone (e.g mine N70) for just RM650-RM700?

You should accept the fact that buyer is not always right.

This post has been edited by ViRaViRa: Jan 20 2007, 12:42 AM

that thread is ridiculous. 1 post is sufficient.

we don't need 20 idiots posting the same thing, and some are just LOL and emoticons. damn brainless goons.

i here by point you to http://forum.lowyat.net/GarageSales

**Trade Zone Rules & Regulations**

1. Lowyat.NET is not responsible for any transactions conducted here.
2. No test/survey of market allowed within this forum as well as its subforums.
3. Do kindly include the THREAD TAGS and [WTB]/[WTS] tags when opening a thread. Failure to do so may result in immediate deletion of the particular thread.
4. Traders MUST be able to deliver the merchandise as promised; in terms of the delivery period, merchandise's contents, merchandise's condition and et cetera.
5. Thread starters may 'bump' their threads using the bump button. You may not bump another person's thread. Any post made with the intention of bringing your thread up the page will be punishable by a 3 day suspension.
6. Refrain from jeopardizing sales unnecessarily. However, you are encouraged to raise an alarm if you strongly believe a potential fraud is about to take place. Alternatively, report the post.
7. The sale of any item in our PROHIBITED ITEMS list is punishable by a lengthy suspension.
8. The creation of multiple topics for similar items will result in deletion of all the topics and a warning/suspension.
9. The tag is given out to members who have proven thus far to be genuine reliable honest traders. However, this tag is NOT a guarantee of a safe transaction and can be revoked at any time.
10. The tag means an unsolved issue has been reported against a member at the Dispute Resolution Forum. Dealing with members with Dispute tags is not recommended.

now........READ!!! and point out which part of this R&R is against / biased. c'mon, tell me..... WHICH part is saying that LYN is against n00bies?

all that LYN ever did was to caution users to be careful of newbie accounts as they as accounts are easily made to conduct con activities.

biased? NO. it's FACT. it's informing the public of how con activities can happen. it's to make people more cautious. and whoever deals with safe trader / vip / seniors without caution clearly shows the lack common sense to do trades in the first place.


awww so noble to you that you're helping saving "waterfish". IMO "waterfish" are "waterfish" simply because they lack common sense when it comes to hunting goods in the first place.

and like i said earlier, unreasonable price is not a problem. it's their goods, how much they want to sell is their business. they got no business then it's their problem, eventually they'll have to lower the price.

but you guys (LYN forummers) should in the first place maintain a proper conduct by NOT spamming unnecessarily.

6. Refrain from jeopardizing sales unnecessarily. However, you are encouraged to raise an alarm if you strongly believe a potential fraud is about to take place. Alternatively, report the post.

READ. sure we encourage open style. but we don't encourage spamming. do you see the difference?

you're allowed to give feedback should you find the price too high. (i personally think you're better off doing on PM) but to have 20++ fellas posting the same thing and ridiculing the threadstarter, that just shows you people lack of forum etiquette.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 20 2007, 12:54 AM

as quoted above, unlike those ebay/lelong, flame on expensive item is unpreventable.. as for fair trade, if u catch a sui yu to get ur expensive item, do u think it is fair for them not knowing anything?
like i said, dont want comment? go ahead to lelong.com.my or ebay..
about pm'ing,
like the below situation;
A selling something at expensive price
i pm him that the price is expensive n ignored by A
at the same time, some noob/waterfish think that item is good buy n kena bait
at last that noob/waterfish will kena.. if u r the noob/waterfish, do u like to buy excessively expensive stuff? no i dont.. hence,i always post flame message like most forumer did coz if we dont do that, then who will?

if think positively,
if A sells something expensive
i let him noe that the price is not approriate
he follow guidance for actual market price (secondhand or 1sthand)
newbie/noob see that he actually follow the market price
more will be interested.. dont u think this is much betteR?

might b my imagination but i do think like that
juz look at my item, all post at market or below market price, im more than willing to accept comment on my selling price n i do aware im in a forum trading place, not a special trading place like ebay/lelong

edited: no, im not spamming at all
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Jan 20 2007, 01:35 AM

Ok, let's look at your item http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=395122&hl=
[wts] SonyEricsson Z530i with FREEBIES!, ORIGINAL THORUS set
- Used set remaining 8 months warranty...

I can get a new Thorus set for about that price.....so how can you explain this.

Fortunately you have closed coz no response after bumping the next day. (So, it was active for a whole day)

U may tell that it was a mistake posting bla bla bla....but then why did you open such thread at the first place? It can't be a mistake coz as I see you seems to know market price very well...
or did you thought that this is lelong or e-bay that ppl won't give comments?

SO,ARE YOU FAIR ENOUGH NOW???

This post has been edited by ViRaViRa: Jan 20 2007, 01:44 AM

u r wrong my friend.. see what i included in my sale
and check what is included in new phone
nothing, juz phone, manual, charger
n im quite sure u cant get ori price for RM500
btw, the sales is cancel coz my friend change his mind, any problem with that?

edited : rough pricing
http://www.mobile88.com/mobilegallery/prev...t=24&path=40,24

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Jan 20 2007, 01:55 AM

But used is still used right? That was the same situation for me. Try go to lelong & search for the same phone, Rm2xx still couldn't sell. Why?

So, you have overpriced it?
BTW, the refrence price is for new set....is yours new?

Yah, I agree that that thread is closed but why would you want to open it at the first place with high price? Expecting for waterfish? Of course not....it's because you are selling the phone & you are the one who decide the price - agree?
If you are able to sell it you will be happy, otherwise you will close the thread or lower the price - agree?

So, why is it right when you do it but wrong when other's does the same?

Well, sorry if i was rude. This is just a discussion. Thanks for your opinion

This post has been edited by ViRaViRa: Jan 20 2007, 02:00 AM

brainless? im just amuse that therez sum clown whoz selling his stuff at such rate and also therez ppl flaming with sumthg which is farny. sorry that my 'LOL' did annoy u so much "smart arse".

and so, again ur saying those "water fish" is dumb enuff to purchase the item? nt everyone is dat free to look up for each and ever single info regarding the item he/she is goin to purchase. and yet again u call dis kind of ppl dumb? ur so smart eh?

by calling others dumb and brainless, do u consider urself 1 of them?

willing seller? yes
willing buyer? yes
cunning seller? yes
stupid buyer? yes
con case? no

that's how i see it. it may be unethical but i firmly believe people have the rights to price anything at any price they want.

sure, you think people have freedom to post. i think people have freedom to set a price.



however.......your FREEDOM to post is subjected to the FORUM rules for NO-SPAMMING

5. Refrain from jeopardizing sales unnecessarily. However, you are encouraged to raise an alarm if you strongly believe a potential fraud is about to take place. Alternatively, report the post.


if you were the one who did LOL post. then you annoy me, just as much as the rest of the spam i see. you guys just seem to be clicker-happy.

and please refer to the above. if your going to part with you $$$ i'd expect you to exercise some logic to do a bit of research and ask around.

how is it they're not dumb when they simply part with their $$$? no time to do research is just an excuse. ok fine, so maybe there was an emergency and the buyer decides to over-pay. it's still fair......willing buyer.

perhaps you should think about how do "waterfish" come into existence.

look, willing seller + willing buyer = everyone happy.........until the buyer realizes how much he overpaid. then what do you think he'll think? "damn i'm stupid, i didn't check the prices first." that's what the fella will think.




after reading my posts and posting such a comment, i'm surprised you're still asking me whether i consider myself one of them when it's bleeding obvious that i AM not one of them (waterfish.......dumb buyers).

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jan 20 2007, 02:11 AM