X50

Want reliability, buy new car.

< 90K X50 Exec
< 80K Ativa AV

Do go and test drive.

Is Toyota Safety Sense important ? Extra 6K under V spec

Forester cannot do KL - Malacca comfortably?
4 cars in one house. For you and wifey only ?

When u see certain "Editions", they trying to prolonged old Model sales before new model launches. In CR-V case likely next year. CX-5 also quite old also they keep giving minor touchups ?

Anyway, do test drive all three with whole family, see if you can live with certain function eg footbrakes.

A 7 yr old Dsegment sedan is safer than a 17 yr old Bsegment sedan in a 20km (urban?) setting if solely talking about size. Then might as well get a second hand 4x4 truck.

Else can check out the latest safety techs recently introduced if you are mainly using in a city environment eg ADAS features in a brand new SUV close to your 60K budget.

Can also test drive the Ativa as another option sitting between the Vios and Persona budget wise. Although a SUV, it is an excellent city car and can do occasional interstate safely.

Would definitely avoid Bezza the worst handling car in Bolehland unless die die go for low FC sedan.

Can you use the new Bukit Kukus highway instead ? The Paya Terubong hill road gradient can be up to 20+ % so top priority would be torque, handling, brakes. Can disregard poor handling cars like Myvi, Bezza, Axia.

I would search for a second hand Iriz 1.6 manual else new Iriz 1.6 auto. Alternative would be new Saga manual upgrade to bigger rims for better grip.

Second hand Honda, Toyota with possible higher maintenance, will let others feedback.

Handling vs fuel consumption. Personally would choose better handling protons for the winding hilly roads on a daily basis.
But if you are experienced driver not driving rapidly, any Perodua can still do the job.

Iriz would have the better torque/weight ratio than
Persona (which is also 470mm longer hence not that nimble),

Saga is cheaper, 120kg lighter than Persona and still available new w manual gearbox for better control on the hills.

Unless your car knowledge already sufficient to handle used car, better get new where the service center can handle any problems under warranty.

If driving mostly in city, Perodua models with better fuel consumption is usually the choice over Protons handling capabilities at higher speeds on highways.

Persona has a more comfortable interior and larger space, Ativa has height and superior safety systems, only you can decide after test drive if worth paying extra 11K for Ativa H or 7K for Ativa X.

If budget is tight, and mostly slow drive ard KL ,
a new Bezza 1.3 X is only 43K
If 60-70K is not an issue, Ativa is best for handling slight floods, bad weather in KL

These low boost turbos in everyday cars are not for performance and should not be challenging to maintain. If you looking at uncommon and fuel consumption, Almera > Vios & City. The concern is TanChong which u can read about in any forums.

Alternative options (not necessary better) are SUVs like X70 which will give u plenty of space, performance at the expense of fuel consumption.

Top up a bit, the current HR-V 1.8E @104K is an excellent highway cruiser before the new model comes in with 1.5l at 120+K

Nothing better to do than to post one liners ?

What are you looking for in your new SUV (does it even need to be another SUV?)

If you looking for better handling, there are the Subarus.
Reliability - Corolla Cross
Space - CRV
Acceleration - X70

Since mileage hit 40+KM/ year better get new?
Unless u know Tiguan or X1 common issues and know where to fix them quickly or have spare vehicle..

Myself purchased a secondhand HRV last year, it has been great.

Just that Contis usually have a higher total cost of ownership rather than just initial purchase cost so need to do sufficient research.

For power, how about turbo engines, but new units for reliability

Proton Iriz is slow moving, should have ready stock depending on branch. Nippy great handling comfortable 4 seater.

If you really considering the 2012 Almera, might as well go after the existing Alza for better space and value (both terrible handling as bad as the Bezza but ok for sedate town drives)

Other Perodua models, Persona, Saga suspect longer wait list.

Leg room is less than Myvi. But the seats are much more comfortable. And we talking about 2 at the rear (4 seater) ya.

Then go try Bezza rear seats. LOL

If u talking about leg space for your boys, then
Myvi > Bezza > Persona/ Iriz > Saga

I was talking about overall seat comfort as a plus point for Iriz as Lieblingsmonster was urgently looking for a new car.

Different topic ya

Did u book the Persona premium or executive in March ?

How much to rent the loaner for another 1-3 monrhs after June ?

My thoughts,
Stick to getting Persona cos by June already wait 5 months.
Perhaps write an appeal letter to the Proton outlet u ordered. At least in black and white, get their acknowledgement.

Rather than abandon this order and go get a second hand car that might give problems difficult to solve.

Current loaner finish in June, rent another car for 1-2 more months? Perhaps some friends or relatives with spare car. Pay them

Underneath the ct200h is actually the same Prius mechanicals.

The extra cost is for the branding and higher fittings. If you appreciate them, then can consider. If you just after the mechanicals a Prius would make more sense.