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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V16 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Jul 14 2016, 08:42 AM

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[quote=adilz,Jul 13 2016, 11:21 PM]
i guess what they mean is nvidia only focus the latest game optimizations for latest gen like Pascal, so they less focused on optimizations for previous gen, whereas amd GCN architecture can improve some of the older gen cards performance via drivers so they are not so left out. some people still on 280x see nice performance boost in DOOM vulkan for example, for a rather old card it's still cheaper and better than GTX 960 in many games. cant say the same for GTX 770.

multitasking? i think this is referring to CPU instead?
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation. That really helps.

Also the Youtube link you provided was not working. Let me try:


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post Jul 14 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 14 2016, 01:48 AM)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4qte...up_reflections/

SMAA
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TSSAA
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But the AA quality is  thumbup.gif
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i also found more sources on it



Doom 4 AA selection
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FXAA
SMAA
TAA (1TX)
FXAA (1TX)
SMAA (1TX)
TSSAA (8TX)

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That list you're seeing is a list of different technologies for anti-aliasing the game. They're by no means exclusive to DOOM.

Different technologies perform anti-aliasing in different ways and thus achieve different results.
Usually the game lists them in order of less processing power consumption to more processing power consumption. The technology in the top is the one that requires less processing power and the one in the bottom is the one that requires the most processing power.
Generally the less processing power an anti-aliasing technology uses the less aliasing it reduces and/or introduces more blur or other defects in the image. The more processing power it uses the more aliasing it reduces without introducing many defects to the image.

There are, however, a few exceptions to theses generic rules. I just gave them to use as a rule of thumb when you don't know what they mean.

Now let's go over a few of the technologies you mentioned:

FXAA - Fast approximate anti-aliasing - developed by Nvidia.
Pros: does not require large amounts of computing power and includes all pixels of the screen (even those showing transparent elements).
Cons: textures may not appear as sharp and must be applied before rendering the HUD elements
SMAA - Subpixel Morphological Anti-Aliasing - it's a more efficient implementation of the traditional MLAA (Morphological Anti-Aliasing).
TAA - Temporal Anti-Aliasing - a technique to prevent temporal aliasing which is caused by framrates being too low in comparison with moving objects in a scene.
TSSAA - Temporal Super Sampling Anti-Aliasing - same as TAA but uses supersampling to achieve better visual results.
All of these technologies come in varying strengths indicated by their multiplier. The multiplier is the number with the TX in front of if. in TSSAA (8TX) the 8TX is the multiplier.
The higher the number the more processing power it will require and the better the results it will achieve.


http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/...they-impact-per


as far as i know in nvidia control panel you set


texturing filtering to High Quality.

16x anistropic leave it to application settings, this one you can max out without much FPS penalty.

triple buffering enabled if your using a monitor capped at 60hz, otherwise when using vsync it will be capped at 30fps rather than 60fps. I tend to enable vsync in nvidia control panel, rather than the actual application (based on my experience with diablo 3, where using ingame vsync still had tearing, whereas doing it from nvidia control panel worked fine)

power management adaptive. But creating an application profile i set to maximum performance for when that game is playing.

Ambient occulusion i only enable it for games that support in application that have it e.g. star craft legacy of the void.


this guide shows you how to use nvidia inspector. but basically you can enable some of the more best quality aa using it at the cost of fps penalty. but maybe with a 1080 it will be able to take the hit especially for 1080? hmm.gif




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post Jul 14 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 08:49 PM)
Unfortunately they didn't bring the PE version...as you said for the price. Who cares right, can't wait...luckily i don't buy rx480...
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i did send a enquiry to Palit distributor in msia... regarding 1070 gamerock PE.

all below what they replied;
- dont bring now because price too high.
- around rm2409.
- package is GTX 1070 Gamerock Premium Edition with G Panel.
- and also limited supply from PALIT.
- we try bring in on August.

- or.. buy GTX1080 jetstream ... rm2.9k++ sweat.gif

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QUOTE(craxors @ Jul 14 2016, 10:25 AM)
i did send a enquiry to Palit distributor in msia... regarding 1070 gamerock PE.

all below what they replied;
- dont bring now because price too high.
- around rm2409.
- package is GTX 1070 Gamerock Premium Edition with G Panel.
- and also limited supply from PALIT.
- we try bring in on August.

- or.. buy GTX1080 jetstream ... rm2.9k++  sweat.gif

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G panel...same like G spot I guess. I don't know...
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post Jul 14 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(craxors @ Jul 14 2016, 10:25 AM)
G-panel apa use?  hmm.gif
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that gpanel seems unnecessary. theres software like techpower up GPU-Z that does similar but on your monitor bruce.gif

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Jul 13 2016, 04:27 PM)
Got these from the other thread, I am trying understand both statements.

Would appreciate some help.
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Haha I think the reason why Yottabyte said that is because AMD cards 2-3 generations old (7000 and 200 series) are having up to 30% boost in an update just few days ago.

IMO it's not because AMD has very good support for older cards, but more like their old cards were design for an API like Dx12 and Vulkan. A little too ahead of their time for their own good.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 14 2016, 01:48 PM)
that gpanel seems unnecessary. theres software like techpower up GPU-Z that does similar but on your monitor  bruce.gif
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Useful for those like to show off, case modder or hardcore fans biggrin.gif
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Useful for those like to show off, case modder or hardcore fans  biggrin.gif
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the only thing i got kinda like a gpanel, is to control my fan speed for my water cooling. so when i want it quiet i can turn the knob to lower or max out my fans smile.gif

thats the only module i got for my rig


PS: interestingly the Asus 1080 Strix OC has fan headers hmm.gif

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received 2nd reply from them... as below...

- 1070 gamerock PE short supply worldwide.
- cant do on august.
- wait future update.

does this mean spore also face shortage issue for this model?

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QUOTE(craxors @ Jul 14 2016, 03:25 PM)
received 2nd reply from them... as below...

- 1070 gamerock PE short supply worldwide.
- cant do on august.
- wait future update.

does this mean spore also face shortage issue for this model?

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Can wait for ti version like this... Hahaha
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QUOTE(antaras @ Jul 13 2016, 07:21 PM)
Yes, play them games folks. Play'em like they are meant to be.

I am now able to enjoy Witcher 3 with my 2560x1080 monitor like never before. Consistent 60FPS (slight dip to 58) even in Novigrad. happy.gif
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Hi bro,

Wanna ask since your specs are same with, do u play GTA V? mind to share FPS?

Thinking of my cpu bottleneck the gpu laugh.gif

Anyway I'm using Strix OC GTX1070, boost to 20xxmhz, i5 3750k @ 4.2ghz but got FPS around 30-40 @ 1440p, old game shouldn't it be more FPS? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(napster2142 @ Jul 14 2016, 04:09 PM)
Hi bro,

Wanna ask since your specs are same with, do u play GTA V? mind to share FPS?

Thinking of my cpu bottleneck the gpu laugh.gif

Anyway I'm using Strix OC GTX1070, boost to 20xxmhz, i5 3750k @ 4.2ghz but got FPS around 30-40 @ 1440p, old game shouldn't it be more FPS? whistling.gif
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Cant say old game will get more fps. Crysis 3 still difficult to drive with high resolution cry.gif I think Crysis in 4K will be below 60fps sweat.gif
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QUOTE(napster2142 @ Jul 14 2016, 04:09 PM)
Hi bro,

Wanna ask since your specs are same with, do u play GTA V? mind to share FPS?

Thinking of my cpu bottleneck the gpu laugh.gif

Anyway I'm using Strix OC GTX1070, boost to 20xxmhz, i5 3750k @ 4.2ghz but got FPS around 30-40 @ 1440p, old game shouldn't it be more FPS? whistling.gif
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Most reviews had between 75-100 fps for GTA V at 1440p. So if you're getting 30-40fps, its either your GPU screaming for a CPU upgrade or something wrong with some settings. Or try running the game with both your CPU and GPU at stock speed (no OC) and see if there's a difference

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 14 2016, 04:32 PM)
Cant say old game will get more fps. Crysis 3 still difficult to drive with high resolution  cry.gif  I think Crysis in 4K will be below 60fps  sweat.gif
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I thought 1440p already become a standard gamer res so old title would be no problem laugh.gif

yeah i did saw some review that this card can run 4k smooth on med-high settings

QUOTE(adilz @ Jul 14 2016, 04:34 PM)
Most reviews had between 75-100 fps for GTA V at 1440p.  So if you're getting 30-40fps,  its either your GPU screaming for a CPU upgrade or something wrong with some settings. Or try running the game with both your CPU and GPU at stock speed (no OC) and see if there's a difference
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i just recognized that if i drop msaa to x4, i can enable NVIDIA txaa and my fps now in between 65-75 fps, thats okay for now blush.gif

i will ignore if my gpu literally screaming for CPU upgrade laugh.gif cpu upgrade will cost a lot considering need to buy mobo and ram also sweat.gif

bold part : my 1st run all stock, FPS hardly to pass 35 fps that time and some scene will drop below 30 (msaa x8), OC helps a lot

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QUOTE(napster2142 @ Jul 14 2016, 04:45 PM)
I thought 1440p already become a standard gamer res so old title would be no problem laugh.gif

yeah i did saw some review that this card can run 4k smooth on med-high settings
i just recognized that if i drop msaa to x4, i can enable NVIDIA txaa and my fps now in between 65-75 fps, thats okay for now   blush.gif 

i will ignore if my gpu literally screaming for CPU upgrade  laugh.gif  cpu upgrade will cost a lot considering need to buy mobo and ram also sweat.gif

bold part : my 1st run all stock, FPS hardly to pass 35 fps that time and some scene will drop below 30 (msaa x8), OC helps a lot
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Ahhh 65-75 fps is more like it and within range a very good range for your setup. Those reviewers benchmark using crazy 8-Core 5960X CPUs anyway. So your OC also okay. Just asking to because I learned first hand that sometime overclocking your CPU too high can have negative effect.

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