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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V16 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Jul 13 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Jul 13 2016, 04:27 PM)
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wanna use just for a year -> nvidia.
wanna use much longer -> amd.


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Yup. Another thing I nto consideration is if primarily gaming then stick with AMD but if multitaksing then nVidia


Got these from the other thread, I am trying understand both statements.

Would appreciate some help.
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i guess what they mean is nvidia only focus the latest game optimizations for latest gen like Pascal, so they less focused on optimizations for previous gen, whereas amd GCN architecture can improve some of the older gen cards performance via drivers so they are not so left out. some people still on 280x see nice performance boost in DOOM vulkan for example, for a rather old card it's still cheaper and better than GTX 960 in many games. cant say the same for GTX 770.

multitasking? i think this is referring to CPU instead?
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post Jul 13 2016, 05:11 PM

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sory spam here..

the latest driver problematic?

my backup card i brought Asus GTX550TI have smoke up.. jilake.. jin keluar berasap... after updating the latest driver... here the ss.



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bye.gif need start hunt again backup gpu crap
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post Jul 13 2016, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 13 2016, 05:01 PM)
there is so much hidden meaning, when Nvidia says like GTX 980 reference, is it dx11 performance only or overall, or VR only. it can also be near 980 like perf, or 980 equivalent perf. if it is 980 reference perf for the reference 1060 model which means aftermarket OC can possible reach >980 reference/OC? biggrin.gif
Bottomline : never ever accept a brand's claims at face value. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 13 2016, 05:17 PM)
Bottomline : never ever accept a brand's claims at face value. biggrin.gif
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ya i will believe when i see actual benchmark from reviewer and not leaked stuff! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Jul 13 2016, 04:27 PM)
Got these from the other thread, I am trying understand both statements.

Would appreciate some help.
aihhh BS la. I use both AMD and Nvidia cards through years, never encountered such.

One can claim AMD has whatever DX12 boost and optimization but seriously, how far can you go when your card is limited? R9 380X? R9 390? That's GTX 970 level performance. No matter what optimization you get you're still behind that of a GTX 1070.

It's not difficult to understand. Technology is there, but technology can only go as far as your hardware limitation.

If technology is so good then RX 480 already can perform like GTX 1070.

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post Jul 13 2016, 05:29 PM

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i think is the development of vulkan/dx12 too slow tongue.gif opengl is not good on AMD, dx11 also subpar compared to Nvidia.

Nvidia chose to spend effort on optimizing it's DX11/OpenGL driver. AMD spent on hardware technologies like Async that can be leveraged in consoles.
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QUOTE(tlts @ Jul 13 2016, 09:15 AM)
heard etech say gtx 1060 amp selling price is rm 1399.. any 1 can comfirm this
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where you heard about it ? their facebook page ?

QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 13 2016, 10:13 AM)
Just trying to rank the cards with the cheapest retail price seen now since most hv been revealed.  Plz correct me if there are wrong info

970 RM999 zotac
1060RM1399? ?
980RM1500??
980tiRM1800zotac
1070RM1999palit/gigabyte
1080RM2959palit jetstream
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nice info
skylinelover put in 1st page thanks biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 13 2016, 04:33 PM)
Coz nvidia performance improves so much with every generation?

AMD...
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QUOTE(meons @ Jul 13 2016, 05:11 PM)
sory spam here..

the latest driver problematic?

my backup card i brought  Asus GTX550TI  have smoke  up.. jilake.. jin keluar berasap... after updating the latest driver...  here the ss.
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bye.gif need start hunt again  backup gpu crap
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use 368.69 driver ?
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AMD's problem is either too far ahead (their technology is actually very good) or too far behind. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 13 2016, 05:38 PM)
where you heard about it ? their facebook page ?
nice info
skylinelover put in 1st page thanks biggrin.gif
wait for AMD vega laugh.gif
use 368.69 driver ?
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at hardware recomend there
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QUOTE(tlts @ Jul 13 2016, 05:39 PM)
at hardware recomend there
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saw it
not sure true or not
let me pm them and ask biggrin.gif
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[quote=svfn,Jul 13 2016, 05:08 PM]
Got these from the other thread, I am trying understand both statements.

Would appreciate some help.
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[/quote]

i guess what they mean is nvidia only focus the latest game optimizations for latest gen like Pascal, so they less focused on optimizations for previous gen, whereas amd GCN architecture can improve some of the older gen cards performance via drivers so they are not so left out. some people still on 280x see nice performance boost in DOOM vulkan for example, for a rather old card it's still cheaper and better than GTX 960 in many games. cant say the same for GTX 770.

multitasking? i think this is referring to CPU instead?
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[/quote]

Frankly, the more I read the more confused I get.

[quote=goldfries,Jul 13 2016, 05:19 PM]
aihhh BS la. I use both AMD and Nvidia cards through years, never encountered such.

One can claim AMD has whatever DX12 boost and optimization but seriously, how far can you go when your card is limited? R9 380X? R9 390? That's GTX 970 level performance. No matter what optimization you get you're still behind that of a GTX 1070.

It's not difficult to understand. Technology is there, but technology can only go as far as your hardware limitation.

If technology is so good then RX 480 already can perform like GTX 1070.
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[/quote]

Exactly my thoughts also. RX480 is performing around GTX970 performance and about the same price as GTX1060 and slightly higher than a GTX970 or same price (I also forgot).

Too much information. I am just going to follow stringfellow's advice and play more games as I have plenty of backlog games anyways.

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Yup, life is so simple. Got money? Buy the best you can afford and go enjoy your games. I also have many games to play. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Jul 13 2016, 07:01 PM)
Frankly, the more I read the more confused I get.
it is simple. just buy whichever you can afford that gives you best performance now, and dont look back lol.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 13 2016, 07:04 PM)
Yup, life is so simple. Got money? Buy the best you can afford and go enjoy your games. I also have many games to play. biggrin.gif
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Get Street Fighter V and lets rumble.

QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 13 2016, 07:05 PM)
it is simple. just buy whichever you can afford that gives you best performance now, and dont look back lol.
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Yes, definitely.

I am still waiting for Zotac GTX1080 / GTX 1070 AMP Extreme or Inno3D GTX1080 iChill X4.

If I get anything other than that, I am sure I will mod it and it will cost me another RM300 again and voiding the warranty again.


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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 13 2016, 05:38 PM)
nice info
skylinelover put in 1st page thanks biggrin.gif
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Haha will do after balik rumah

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post Jul 13 2016, 07:21 PM

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Yes, play them games folks. Play'em like they are meant to be.

I am now able to enjoy Witcher 3 with my 2560x1080 monitor like never before. Consistent 60FPS (slight dip to 58) even in Novigrad. happy.gif

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post Jul 13 2016, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 13 2016, 05:38 PM)
where you heard about it ? their facebook page ?
nice info
skylinelover put in 1st page thanks biggrin.gif
wait for AMD vega laugh.gif
use 368.69 driver ?
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yap ..368.69
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post Jul 13 2016, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 04:17 PM)
For its price damn good. Got some seller sells at rm2060 in garage sale.
Was looking for this until some forumer mention aboit gemfive raya12 voucher. Palit gamerock after voucher only rm1847. Pulled the trigger and its on its way already.
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They just send out ? It suppose to reach me today but I'm not at home.

QUOTE(svfn @ Jul 13 2016, 05:08 PM)
i guess what they mean is nvidia only focus the latest game optimizations for latest gen like Pascal, so they less focused on optimizations for previous gen, whereas amd GCN architecture can improve some of the older gen cards performance via drivers so they are not so left out. some people still on 280x see nice performance boost in DOOM vulkan for example, for a rather old card it's still cheaper and better than GTX 960 in many games. cant say the same for GTX 770.

multitasking? i think this is referring to CPU instead?
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What I read is, their card's FLOP performance are higher than nVidia's similar priced card. AMD's DX11 driver are bad, thus performance increase in DX12 are alot, when DX12 drive unlock the potentials. nVidia DX11 performance are optimize nicely already, thus no much room to improve in DX12/Vulcan.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 13 2016, 07:04 PM)
Yup, life is so simple. Got money? Buy the best you can afford and go enjoy your games. I also have many games to play. biggrin.gif
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Ya, that's the best recommendation.
When friend ask me to quote spec for new computer, basically I finish most h/w spec then throw the rest of the budget into graphic card.
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 13 2016, 08:31 PM)
They just send out ? It suppose to reach me today but I'm not at home.
What I read is, their card's FLOP performance are higher than nVidia's similar priced card. AMD's DX11 driver are bad, thus performance increase in DX12 are alot, when DX12 drive unlock the potentials. nVidia DX11 performance are optimize nicely already, thus no much room to improve in DX12/Vulcan.
Ya, that's the best recommendation.
When friend ask me to quote spec for new computer, basically I finish most h/w spec then throw the rest of the budget into graphic card.
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They sent yesterday but not reach yet maybe tomorrow.
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QUOTE(Topet @ Jul 13 2016, 08:36 PM)
They sent yesterday but not reach yet maybe tomorrow.
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Abit sad when I found out our 1070 Gamerock not PE one biggrin.gif PE OCed additional 1XX core and 2XX memory bye.gif but for the price I'm happy laugh.gif

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