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Discussion David Beckham To L.A. Galaxy, What is the reason...you vote!

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post Jan 15 2007, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(thteh86 @ Jan 15 2007, 05:16 PM)
Giggs is around 34 now and is still one of the best players in Man Utd. Cantona was still great when he was 31, Zidane retired last year and i think it was 35. David Ginola still runs around despite being 30+ last time. Figo and Steve Macca did well when they were 31. Besides that, Zola, Nedved, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Gary Mccallister did well past their 30s, and they did extremely well too

Give me any of the above, I'd choose them over Beckham.

A 20 year old Beckham and a 20 year old Cristiano Ronaldo, I'd still choose Cristiano Ronaldo.
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I agree with irenic. With CR and Beck both have diff character, both are best at what they do. But whether beck is bad or not he's geeting more than our annual salaries put together. laugh.gif 5% from his salary would be enough for me whistling.gif
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:18 PM

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Becks and Christiano, seriously, I'll go for Becks... Christiano, he's only good in dribbling and maybe shooting... But still, Becks got more goal than him and more assist...
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(wanz_delpiero @ Jan 15 2007, 02:52 PM)
then y he been dropped in RM squad..the latest news is he will out for whole season for that squad....
i rather said cristiano is better when make the cross
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i am not a big fan of DB...but i haf to admit dat his crossin is superb
guess u din watch much football don u?
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:23 PM

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I don't think he had much choice. Madrid won't use him. He won't play for any other club in England other than MU. Italians don't want him or didn't offer a good enough financial package. Better teams like Inter and Lyon don't need him.

In the end, he benefits more going to the US.
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:26 PM

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U guys are making football sounds like crossing > everything. Come on.. laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:31 PM

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SHOW ME THE MONEY
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:36 PM

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my vote is he doesnt want to goes against his beloved manutd in another team's jersey sad.gif
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(duarnt @ Jan 15 2007, 12:31 PM)
Obviously because of money deal. For a 30+ player to get that kind of offer is rare. I dont blame him if he just admitted it. Life time offer. All other reason i think quite BS to me.
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It's not rare; it's a one in the lifetime offer. Even if ronaldinho were to move there, i doubt he'll get as much as becks.
The amount they pay him in a week is able to pay for 6 ballacks in a week. damn!!
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(akRia @ Jan 15 2007, 07:36 PM)
my vote is he doesnt want to goes against his beloved manutd in another team's jersey sad.gif
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if dats da case he wouldnt have signed for real as well coz they stand a chance being drawn together in da champions league. i agree becks might not b da best footballer in da world, but he certainly has made football popular n dats a fact. ask any chick who david beckham is, they're sure to know... ask them who darren fletcher is, they'll b like "WHO?"
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QUOTE(wanz_delpiero @ Jan 15 2007, 02:52 PM)
then y he been dropped in RM squad..the latest news is he will out for whole season for that squad....
i rather said cristiano is better when make the cross
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rolleyes.gif you are funny,stick too much to newspaper i suppose,go buy manutd's treble vcd in speedy and you will know why he is a superb player,his crossing can consider as one of the top among the top player,his longpass accuracy,freekick,i suppose he is the favourite right midfielder all target man likes.

QUOTE(Hevrn @ Jan 15 2007, 07:49 PM)
if dats da case he wouldnt have signed for real as well coz they stand a chance being drawn together in da champions league. i agree becks might not b da best footballer in da world, but he certainly has made football popular n dats a fact. ask any chick who david beckham is, they're sure to know... ask them who darren fletcher is, they'll b like "WHO?"
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DB is a pro football if he have to play against manutd in CL i believe he will play like a pro,i believe he is a footballer who really play with his heart for manutd,this is just like someday when real madrid doesnt need raul anymore,as roma don need totti,unless they have no choice or else i believe they will not play for other team in the same league

This post has been edited by akRia: Jan 15 2007, 07:56 PM
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post Jan 15 2007, 08:15 PM

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Because he wants back his No 7 in LA ?
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post Jan 15 2007, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jan 15 2007, 08:15 PM)
Because he wants back his No 7 in LA ?
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isn't that too far just to get the number on the back of his shirt? laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2007, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 15 2007, 05:42 PM)
yeah, but if not mistaken, he didnt include "he cant pass" in his statement smile.gif
some players peak early, some player not.. some player last longer and some player not. not true ? look at this :

stan collymore : once said as the biggest striker england could have..

fowler: very good goalscorer at his young age, but look at what happened to him when he is over 28yrs old.

raul gonzalez : become a legend at very young age.. look at him now..overshadow by his past

figo : he reached his peak at 28yrs old and he only last around 5 yrs at top his game.

macca: he's very good when he is at liverpool, at younger age. bought by madrid and never been as good as he is (but still above then ok) and many said he's done nothing in england shirt.

zidane : come on, u cant compare this very rare player with others footballer.

roberto carlos: u got to be joking he is very good until now.. he can run, but he keeps giving free goal to opponent  doh.gif

ginola & cantona : also at top of his game at around 5-6 years only..

beckham's peak was during 1997/1998 season, the year before wcup 98. at that time he was only 22yrs old. he lasted until i could say his 2nd season at RM. which was during 2003/2004.. so he is at top of his game for around 6 years as well. so he is like others too tongue.gif

maybe many would say his best was during treble season, where he assisted so many goal but for me his best was during his last season at man u where he scored 18 goals and still be top assist in EPL.

i used to buy many man u mags during in schools and i remembered top coaches said that why he needs to dribble if he can pass from 50 yards out, and still reach the same destination..

so that means, many agrees with his class and talent... just that now his best is over, same like others (fowler, raul, collymore who?)
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common, where's nedved? laugh.gif tongue.gif

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:32 PM

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SAF even said that becks loved Man U so much and he understand why becks wouldnt signed for other EPL club.. when he said that, and from martin o' neill, steve coppell and Sam (bolton's manager) statements that becks is still good to play for EPL club, that means there are clubs who wanna sign him..
Even AC milan wanna sign him.

i guess beckham reason might be true. he said that if he goes to USA at 34 yrs old (if he signs 2 yrs extention with RM) people will said he goes there purely for money, bcoz at that time surely he is sucker than now biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Jan 15 2007, 09:27 PM)
common, where's nedved? laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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sorry, i dunno much bout nedved coz i dont follow serie A as deep as i follow EPL and La Liga. All i know is Man U was interested in signing nedved once (during his lazio time), and nedved is a very important player to Czech.

argh this reply automatically make a double post from me : blush.gif

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:45 PM

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Anyway, why does ManU sell becks to RM in the first place?
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post Jan 15 2007, 09:46 PM

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poor capello, after he knew he will lost beckham he revealed has revealed that David Beckham will not play for the club again after agreeing to sign for Los Angeles Galaxy.

Capello said: "Beckham will train with the team but he won't play."

HATE CAPELLO, i love real madrid, but i hope RM will lose everything this season of his attitude. but this is good for david beckham from d view of MONEY. even he juz go training with other team mates, he will still get his salary.

user posted image look at capello's face... looks like a noob and loser.
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post Jan 15 2007, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Jan 15 2007, 07:18 PM)
Becks and Christiano, seriously, I'll go for Becks... Christiano, he's only good in dribbling and maybe shooting... But still, Becks got more goal than him and more assist...
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As i said both are good at what they do. CR with his dribble, pace, shooting and DB with his accurate pass and dead ball specialist. That what make football the best sport in the world.
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QUOTE(duarnt @ Jan 15 2007, 10:44 PM)
As i said both are good at what they do. CR with his dribble, pace, shooting and DB with his accurate pass and dead ball specialist. That what make football the best sport in the world.
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agree with u!!
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post Jan 15 2007, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 15 2007, 05:42 PM)
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beckham's peak was during 1997/1998 season, the year before wcup 98. at that time he was only 22yrs old. he lasted until i could say his 2nd season at RM. which was during 2003/2004.. so he is at top of his game for around 6 years as well. so he is like others too tongue.gif

maybe many would say his best was during treble season, where he assisted so many goal but for me his best was during his last season at man u where he scored 18 goals and still be top assist in EPL.
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He only got 12 goals(6 league) and 12 assists(9 league). Solskjaer got 15 goals(9 league) and 8 assists(8 league). Dunno how true is that.. don't shoot the messenger. tongue.gif Ole started on the wing a lot that season, SAF played Scholes behind Ruud mostly.
Becks: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8880&cc=4716
Ole: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8863&cc=4716

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Jan 15 2007, 07:18 PM)
Becks and Christiano, seriously, I'll go for Becks... Christiano, he's only good in dribbling and maybe shooting... But still, Becks got more goal than him and more assist...
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You're comparing Beckham when he was at his peak to Ronaldo who is just starting. Not really fair heh. Also in every season he's been here except this season, he only started to play well after Christmas. Last season got the the rape thing and the loss of his father at the start of the season, but after Chrismas, he was back to his usual self. This season step up even more. Best winger in the league, even last season when he didnt perform for half a season. People may say other wingers are more effective, but compare their(or other midfielders) stats(goals, assists) to Ronaldo, and almost all don't look as good. Of course stats don't tell everything, but it helps. Best young player at the WC... should've been him really.

QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Jan 15 2007, 09:45 PM)
Anyway, why does ManU sell becks to RM in the first place?
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The boot incident, his relationship with SAF surely not good after that heh. Contract only got 2 years left. And one Ole Solskjaer who took his place in Beck's last season in the big games. Beckham that time was the captain of England.. got to his head a bit after that trying to play centrally when he should play out wide more. Ole's crosses and play from the right was more dangerous that season IMO, more of a goal threat. Too bad in post Beckham era, Ole got injured halfway in that 1st season and never recovered until last year. That's why people say we still miss Becks in those early Ronaldo years. Also we were chasing Ronaldinho at the end of that season. Almost got him, but Brazilians with Barca can't be separated I guess. But then we got C.Ronaldo in, and a season after that got Rooney. Happier in the longer run I say.

That title winning season was magic. 4231. Those 3 that play behind Ruud really was everywhere, able to change positions at will and still be effective. The game againts Newcastle.. Ahh. Injuries and suspension to the not so clever Rio really mess things up after that, also that penalty Ruud missed. Untouchables, we could've and should've prevent that heh.

QUOTE(thteh86 @ Jan 15 2007, 02:55 PM)
Ronaldinho can cross a ball, maybe not as good as Beckham, but he's a lot more effective than Beckham

Zidane can cross a ball better than Beckham at times, other than just crossing, passing, deadball situations, he creates chances with his runs and his visions

Jermain Pennant, was one of the best crossers in the premiership last season, with pace and flair. Was one of the most promising players bought by Arsene Wenger.

Joaquin, one of the best wingers. Deadly crossings, great pace, dribbling ability and vision.

Ryan Giggs, crossings are good with pace....flair, leadership and also not to forget, his dribbling abilities despite of his age.

Aaron Lennon, an agile youngster who is tipped to be the next England's 1st choice winger who has the pace plus dribbling ability. Although his crossings aren't as good as any of the players above, but nevertherless...I'd take him anytime than Becks for the England Squad

Shaun Wright-Phillips, his crossings are deadly and so is his pace, which made Chelsea willing to pay so much for him eventhough they could've just sign Becks.

There're also the likes of Steven Gerrard, Arjen Robben, Michael Carrick, Xabi Alonso, Rosicky, Fabregas, Totti, Nedved, Quaresma, Diego, Messi.....etc

There're just so many players who can be a better option than Becks, no wonder Real weren't keen to sign him a new contract.
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Pennant? Not a patch on Beckham, even when Becks is past his best. Beckham got more than his crossing, but crossing and vision is his main weapon, and also a lot of heart and running. Tireless. Right now maybe the majority of those players you mention are better, but a few years ago, there was not many better that him on the right midfield/wing, and certainly not many better at what he does... create goals.

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