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Discussion David Beckham To L.A. Galaxy, What is the reason...you vote!

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Wan
post Jan 15 2007, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 15 2007, 05:42 PM)
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beckham's peak was during 1997/1998 season, the year before wcup 98. at that time he was only 22yrs old. he lasted until i could say his 2nd season at RM. which was during 2003/2004.. so he is at top of his game for around 6 years as well. so he is like others too tongue.gif

maybe many would say his best was during treble season, where he assisted so many goal but for me his best was during his last season at man u where he scored 18 goals and still be top assist in EPL.
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He only got 12 goals(6 league) and 12 assists(9 league). Solskjaer got 15 goals(9 league) and 8 assists(8 league). Dunno how true is that.. don't shoot the messenger. tongue.gif Ole started on the wing a lot that season, SAF played Scholes behind Ruud mostly.
Becks: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8880&cc=4716
Ole: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8863&cc=4716

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Jan 15 2007, 07:18 PM)
Becks and Christiano, seriously, I'll go for Becks... Christiano, he's only good in dribbling and maybe shooting... But still, Becks got more goal than him and more assist...
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You're comparing Beckham when he was at his peak to Ronaldo who is just starting. Not really fair heh. Also in every season he's been here except this season, he only started to play well after Christmas. Last season got the the rape thing and the loss of his father at the start of the season, but after Chrismas, he was back to his usual self. This season step up even more. Best winger in the league, even last season when he didnt perform for half a season. People may say other wingers are more effective, but compare their(or other midfielders) stats(goals, assists) to Ronaldo, and almost all don't look as good. Of course stats don't tell everything, but it helps. Best young player at the WC... should've been him really.

QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Jan 15 2007, 09:45 PM)
Anyway, why does ManU sell becks to RM in the first place?
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The boot incident, his relationship with SAF surely not good after that heh. Contract only got 2 years left. And one Ole Solskjaer who took his place in Beck's last season in the big games. Beckham that time was the captain of England.. got to his head a bit after that trying to play centrally when he should play out wide more. Ole's crosses and play from the right was more dangerous that season IMO, more of a goal threat. Too bad in post Beckham era, Ole got injured halfway in that 1st season and never recovered until last year. That's why people say we still miss Becks in those early Ronaldo years. Also we were chasing Ronaldinho at the end of that season. Almost got him, but Brazilians with Barca can't be separated I guess. But then we got C.Ronaldo in, and a season after that got Rooney. Happier in the longer run I say.

That title winning season was magic. 4231. Those 3 that play behind Ruud really was everywhere, able to change positions at will and still be effective. The game againts Newcastle.. Ahh. Injuries and suspension to the not so clever Rio really mess things up after that, also that penalty Ruud missed. Untouchables, we could've and should've prevent that heh.

QUOTE(thteh86 @ Jan 15 2007, 02:55 PM)
Ronaldinho can cross a ball, maybe not as good as Beckham, but he's a lot more effective than Beckham

Zidane can cross a ball better than Beckham at times, other than just crossing, passing, deadball situations, he creates chances with his runs and his visions

Jermain Pennant, was one of the best crossers in the premiership last season, with pace and flair. Was one of the most promising players bought by Arsene Wenger.

Joaquin, one of the best wingers. Deadly crossings, great pace, dribbling ability and vision.

Ryan Giggs, crossings are good with pace....flair, leadership and also not to forget, his dribbling abilities despite of his age.

Aaron Lennon, an agile youngster who is tipped to be the next England's 1st choice winger who has the pace plus dribbling ability. Although his crossings aren't as good as any of the players above, but nevertherless...I'd take him anytime than Becks for the England Squad

Shaun Wright-Phillips, his crossings are deadly and so is his pace, which made Chelsea willing to pay so much for him eventhough they could've just sign Becks.

There're also the likes of Steven Gerrard, Arjen Robben, Michael Carrick, Xabi Alonso, Rosicky, Fabregas, Totti, Nedved, Quaresma, Diego, Messi.....etc

There're just so many players who can be a better option than Becks, no wonder Real weren't keen to sign him a new contract.
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Pennant? Not a patch on Beckham, even when Becks is past his best. Beckham got more than his crossing, but crossing and vision is his main weapon, and also a lot of heart and running. Tireless. Right now maybe the majority of those players you mention are better, but a few years ago, there was not many better that him on the right midfield/wing, and certainly not many better at what he does... create goals.

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post Jan 15 2007, 11:28 PM

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Just need to support my Ole argument should someone question what I just said. biggrin.gif

Let's be fair here, Beckham was a great player. Maybe not on the same scale as Zidane or Ronaldinho, but he was great. Those assists he got was no fluke. He made them every season, lots of 'em. You need a bit of vision to spot people. And for a winger, he scored a lot too. Yeah he may not have the dribbling ability of a Giggs, the control of a Zidane or the flair of those kinda players, but he was something else from them. He's just effective, more effective than them I say. His performance and stats back him up.

CR though could be on those higher level type if he keep on playing the way he is atm. Just hope nobody steal him from us in 2-4 years time. He loves Barca & Real, and knowing how Real works, there would be lots of strories in their papers(MarcA?) in the not too distant future.
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post Jan 16 2007, 02:52 AM

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Players are free to talk to anyone in their last 6 months of contract right? Atleast in CM 01/02 its that way. tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 16 2007, 03:39 AM)
yeah he is free but at 31 yrs old didnt he learnt sthing called manner?  cool.gif

@wan, just some confusion..  i read both in soccernet and realmadrid official website praising beckham for being the top assist in La Liga in his first 3 seasons there, but from the link u gave, in the first and 2nd season in RM, he didnt make any assist at all .

and even in 2001/2002 season during his MU time, his assist is also 0.

and as far as i can remember, he never failed to assist a goal in a season.
i tried hard to find any stats bout it and i remembered OPTA which alwiz provide stats for EPL but i fail to find any..
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Soccernet's stats are a bit crazy heh, EPL still okay, outsite mostly wrong. Don't think they follow them much, except for goals maybe. 01/02, probably lazy to update them. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2007, 03:43 PM

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Noone here knows what goes on behind the scenes. I wouldn't trust what those people said. Egos... heh.

Richest? They can always sell their training ground to make money. tongue.gif Without Beckham also people already know the them. Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Raul, record CL winners, the club name already famous.. not hard to attract people. Not sure how people would like Capello's style though. Kinda boring. Results are more important with him I guess heh.
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post Jan 16 2007, 10:36 PM

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Like most old players, they're not as good compared to when they were younger. biggrin.gif Its natural. The game's not really changed that much.
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jan 20 2007, 03:41 PM)
a normal player...he gets 9/10 for football satisfaction but only 3/10 for salary satisfaction...
But for becks...he got 10/10 for money and 6/10 for football... its still worth it ^^
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Won a lot in his career. Played for ManUtd and Real Madrid at his peak. How many players can say that? Someone have to be really stupid to turn down 250m. It's not like he's still at his peak, his form already dipped in the last 2-3 years.

Everyone have atleast 7-8/10 salary satisfaction. tongue.gif Money talks...

 

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