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danmooncake
post Feb 3 2017, 11:39 PM

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Wow... here we go. Market up due to job numbers. Even oil also up. Going to do another break out test at $55 soon.

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Baker Hughes: Total rigs up to 729 from 712. Oil up to 583 from 566
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post Feb 6 2017, 11:51 PM

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Ahh.. another week of range play again. It's almost there but back down one more time. sad.gif
Going to sell the forward options again to pocket the premium.
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post Feb 7 2017, 06:06 PM

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AMD is still shooting to the moon. Been trying to take my eyes off of it ever since I sold it off after the last earnings but damn, the train doesn't seem to be stoppable.

GILD earnings later & NVDA on 9th. This is an exciting week for me.

BTW, has anyone use Halifax Investment Service that's based in Aussie before? The commission was very tempting but I can't seem to locate much info / review about them online. sad.gif
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post Feb 7 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 7 2017, 08:49 AM)
Ram

So far, I have not experience any withholding tax from US authorities investing in stocks. 
Have you signed the W BEN8 forms ?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 7 2017, 11:14 AM)
If you have send in the W BEN8 forms to declare that you are not a US citizen, etc, you should not be subjected to US taxes due to the tax treaty with Malaysia.
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/internation...rs/tax-treaties
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/internation...x-treaty-tables
http://www.knowthymoney.com/2011/07/how-to...-malaysian.html
My MIS....Malaysia does NOT have a tax treaty with US, therefore the W BEN8 declaration form.
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I think it's better to move our discussion to here. According to people here, US stocks will kean 30% with holding tax regardless you fill the WBEN8 form. That's why people use Ireland as a proxy as Ireland only kena 15% tax.

Also it's shown here that SGans will also kena charge the 30% tax.
http://www.turtleinvestor.net/get-to-know-...ithholding-tax/

Anyone here can conform that Malaysians will kena 30% with holding tax even if they fill up the WBEN8 forms?
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post Feb 7 2017, 10:53 PM

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wow. US , europe and Hang Seng r flying high. i think it is going to break the traditional february jink. looking good now.
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post Feb 7 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 7 2017, 10:53 PM)
wow. US , europe and Hang Seng r flying high. i think it is going to break the traditional february jink. looking good now.
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some years, correction came april. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Feb 7 2017, 06:06 PM)
AMD is still shooting to the moon. Been trying to take my eyes off of it ever since I sold it off after the last earnings but damn, the train doesn't seem to be stoppable.

GILD earnings later & NVDA on 9th. This is an exciting week for me.

BTW, has anyone use Halifax Investment Service that's based in Aussie before? The commission was very tempting but I can't seem to locate much info / review about them online. sad.gif
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Are you holding GILD ?


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Dollar index can't seem to hold on to gains and a potential head and shoulder is developing.

Also Atlanta Fed 1Q GDP down from 3.4% to 2.7%.
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post Feb 8 2017, 04:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 7 2017, 09:25 PM)
I think it's better to move our discussion to here. According to people here, US stocks will kean 30% with holding tax regardless you fill the WBEN8 form.  That's why people use Ireland as a proxy as Ireland only kena 15% tax.

Also it's shown here that SGans will also kena charge the 30% tax.
http://www.turtleinvestor.net/get-to-know-...ithholding-tax/

Anyone here can conform that Malaysians will kena 30% with holding tax even if they fill up the WBEN8 forms?
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Ramjade, I think that 30% withholding is for DIVIDENDs distribution. Not, capital gains right?
They should not withhold anything for capital gains for non-citizens.
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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Feb 8 2017, 01:24 AM)
Are you holding GILD ?
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Yes sir, I am. Any insider news that you might possess? smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2017, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Feb 8 2017, 04:41 AM)
Yes sir, I am. Any insider news that you might possess? smile.gif
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Looks like triple bottom for GILD. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 8 2017, 04:42 AM)
Looks like triple bottom for GILD.   biggrin.gif
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Hahaha... that's pharma for you. Most of the time, if the trials passed the paper then they're gonna be green for some time.

I'm not very well versed with TA but I thought I'm seeing triple top instead of triple bottom? biggrin.gif

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post Feb 8 2017, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Feb 8 2017, 04:47 AM)
Hahaha... that's pharma for you. Most of the time, if the trials passed the paper then they're gonna be green for some time.

I'm not very well versed with TA but I thought I'm seeing triple top instead of triple bottom? biggrin.gif
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Correction:
If I zoom out 6 months, I'm seeing quintuple bottoms here. It hits the lows around 5 times already.
71.75, 70.93, 70.38, 71.30, 69.30.

It seems to be under accumulation around here.. it may still take a while for it to rally higher,
the long term buyers will step back in if it can get back above 200ma line (it is declining now).
The yield around 3%+ will get good support.

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post Feb 8 2017, 06:16 AM

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$GILD earnings report:
[+] better than expected earning
[-] sales of Hep C drugs went down 35% YoY
[-] projections of total sales for 2017 also went down

As a result, stock price plunged around 4% in after-hours trading.
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post Feb 8 2017, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 8 2017, 04:41 AM)
Ramjade, I think that 30% withholding is for DIVIDENDs distribution. Not, capital gains right?
They should not withhold anything for capital gains for non-citizens.
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I said everything traded on the US market will kena the 30% tax on dividend, but prophetjul no as long as one submitted the WBEN8 form. So I am confused.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 8 2017, 08:02 AM)
I said everything traded on the US market will kena the 30% tax on dividend, but prophetjul no as long as one submitted the WBEN8 form. So I am confused.
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You are correct. The WBEN8 just give you the status of foreign status, therefore not subject to capital gain but IS subject
to flat rate of 30% tax/withholding on DIVIDENDS.

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But, if you have a lot of dividends and should not be taxed as high as 30%, then,
it is possible to claim them back by filing 1080NR by April 15th of each year.
The taxable rate is still subject to your total income (that's your dividends) for the filing status.
Best check with a US tax law accountant.


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post Feb 8 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 8 2017, 01:53 PM)
You are correct. The WBEN8 just give you the status of foreign status, therefore not subject to capital gain but IS subject
to flat rate of 30% tax/withholding on DIVIDENDS.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


But, if you have a lot of dividends and should not be taxed as high as 30%, then,
it is possible to claim them back by filing 1080NR by April 15th of each year.
The taxable rate is still subject to your total income (that's your dividends) for the filing status.
Best check with a US tax law accountant.
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So complicated.
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post Feb 8 2017, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Feb 8 2017, 04:41 AM)
Yes sir, I am. Any insider news that you might possess? smile.gif
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No insider news.

63.5 is going to be an important level

If it can capture the 70 level again then I think it will go sideways.

I assume that it will only start moving back up once the acquire a company since their cash is already up to 32bil.


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post Feb 8 2017, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Feb 8 2017, 10:42 PM)
No insider news.

63.5 is going to be an important level

If it can capture the 70 level again then I think it will go sideways.

I assume that it will only start moving back up once the acquire a company since their cash is already up to 32bil.
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Yea, that's what people are speculating right now. However, most of the time, proposing an acquisition will further push the price down but I guess a lot of hedge fund managers are probably eyeing GILD at this very moment so perhaps it might go the other way around.

Averaged down again at $67.

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