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post Jun 11 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(XPAWNED01 @ Jun 11 2016, 02:54 PM)
dan peraman dalam english ialah?
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non-intoxicating

less than 0.01 alchohol content.

1% etahnol content.

these are part of JAKIM spec.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 11 2016, 01:24 PM)
Kelantanese drink Tuak...

you can see it being sold as soon as you arrive in Ismail Petra airport...  biggrin.gif

but Kelantan Tuak is for sissies compared to tuak made in Sarawak.... that tuak makes you grow hairs on your balls....  laugh.gif

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If tuak can grow hair on balls..

What about Langkau?
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 02:54 PM)
Err I don't even remember I talk to you before....perasan betul ko ni
Just saw your current posting saying less peram won't have alcohol
Kandungan alcohol tuak ni macam shandy.....
Biasa kalau peram lama dia akan jadi cuka....my grandfather used to make it
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kau bukan islam apa kau tau pasal halal n haram.

pegi baca guidline JAKIM dulu on alcohol Content.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 03:38 PM)
Wowow ko ni suka kafirkan orang bila dah malu...bila tak berpengetahuan terus kafirkan lain......bodoh gila
Tapi biasa lah orang macam ko ni
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sudah2 la dupe.

nampak sangat kau ni dupe mana hala suka bash islam.

alchohol content JAKIM pun tak tau suka2 cakap any fermentation process yield non-halal air nira, tapai n etc.


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post Jun 11 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:09 PM)
Something like not more than 0.5% alcohol content is not considered haram.

Alcohol is not what is haram, things that make you drunk is haram.tapai and tuak are not made in a big factory so the alcohol content may vary.
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if the drinks got alcohol even 1% but Moslem drink it still tak mabuk consider halal? like Shandy drinks?

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post Jun 11 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(zaini900 @ Jun 11 2016, 03:41 PM)
sudah2 la dupe.

nampak sangat kau ni dupe mana hala suka bash islam.

alchohol content JAKIM pun tak tau suka2 cakap any fermentation process yield non-halal air nira, tapai n etc.
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Semoga Allah tempatkan kau di kalangan orang2 bodo ni neraka.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 11 2016, 03:44 PM)
Bila aku bash Islam?!?!?
Aku bash Muslim macam ko ni je....I dare you to show my post bashing Islam....
FYI....
Islam = Muslim but Muslim /=Islam

You want to talk about <1% alcohol as fine?would you eat food cook with cooking wine?
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sebab soalan kau macam tak terpelajar.

any muslim with proper education would know basic halal and haram.

tak payah aku cari pon post kau, tiap kali thread bait islam kau yang lebih2 tanya soalan provoke.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:49 PM

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Double standard bigots. Die die dun admit got alcohol.
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:47 PM)
if the drinks got alcohol even 1% but Moslem drink it still tak mabuk consider halal? like Shandy drinks?

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This one grey area. Some say can some say can't. Cant because the alcohol is from the production of beer and not a natural process or by product of making shandy.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:54 PM

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Pelik tak ada pula isu "mengakibatkan kekeliruan terhadap keimanan dan kedaulatan"
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:52 PM)
This one grey area. Some say can some say can't. Cant because the alcohol is from the production of beer and not a natural process or by product of making shandy.
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People will probably die from diabetes first before getting drunk on Shandy.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:57 PM

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Meanwhile ayam rilek buka puasa dekat a&w minum root beer.
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post Jun 11 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 11 2016, 03:55 PM)
People will probably die from diabetes first before getting drunk on Shandy.
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Heh that's what JAKIM people told me when I visited their office
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 11 2016, 03:52 PM)
This one grey area. Some say can some say can't. Cant because the alcohol is from the production of beer and not a natural process or by product of making shandy.
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yeah we should look back at the purpose of the foods processing/making, if it really means to "mabuk" thn it definitely falls onto haram thingy.....

so Meat cooks with Wine, Tapai and Air Nira wont fall into this category
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Someone even doin the experiment

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[KAGET] Air Nira yang Halal itu ternyata mengandung Alkohol Sangat Tinggi
Masih menyangkut trit ane sebelumnya tentang TAPAI/TAPE yang menjadi kudapan khas bangsa kita sehari-hari yang ternyata MENGANDUNG ALKOHOL setara Bir..............

Hari ini ane ingin menyampaikan satu fakta mengagetkan lagi tentang Air Nira....... Ternyata Air Nira yang diHALALkan di negara Bagian Kelantan dan dikonsumsi oleh sebagian besar masyrakat Indonesia di pedesaan, mengandung Alkohol yang Sangat Tinggi, setara Wine dan Whisky............

Tanpa perlu proses fermentasi khusus, Air Nira akan mengalami Fermentasi Spontan dan menghasilkan alkohol dalam kadar yang sangat tinggi melebihi Tapai/Tape. Dengan dicampurkan zat tertentu, maka hasil fermentasi akan menghasilkan Alkohol 2x lipat lebih tinggi dan mengandung alkohol setara Whisky...............

Ini ane sampaikan data hasil penelitian kadar alkohol dalam air Nira terhitung mulai dari Jam penyadapan pertama.............

0 Jam 0%
5 Jam 7,49%
10 Jam 7,5%
15 jam 7,9%
20 jam 9,56%

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post Jun 11 2016, 04:01 PM

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post Jun 11 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jun 11 2016, 03:58 PM)
yeah we should look back at the purpose of the foods processing/making, if it really means to "mabuk" thn it definitely falls onto haram thingy.....

so Meat cooks with Wine, Tapai and Air Nira wont fall into this category
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Hmm... I wonder if that kind of cooked food can make people mabok?
Since ethanol is the one responsible for mabokness...

It should have evaporated during cooking process (ethanol boiling point 78 degrees celcius)... so no more ethanol... no more mabok~
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 11 2016, 04:16 PM)
Hmm... I wonder if that kind of cooked food can make people mabok?
Since ethanol is the one responsible for mabokness...

It should have evaporated during cooking process (ethanol boiling point 78 degrees celcius)... so no more ethanol... no more mabok~
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Scientifically the ethanol binding will loosen and consequently evaporated during cookin process at certain tempreture and time...... but thosse thing just too technical for certain Religious law maker , it's not clear and written on holy book, take short-cut route....haraaam
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post Jun 11 2016, 04:28 PM

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Have anyone tried drinking boiled beer/ wine/ whisky before?
How does it change the taste and their effect to cause mabokness?

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