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 Exact software, is this a good company?

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k_hok
post Mar 5 2007, 09:36 AM

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I'm neutral, but telling the truth.
It has got the best environment/equipment for u, but it has got the worst manager telling you to follow their shit-plan.

It has got some of the best smart ideas, but it has got a lot dumb head seniors & managers who scrap it (they understand only "IF i do not understand it THEN it's a piece of junk END IF").

It has got the best process/procedure for software development but it has got the No-Ball'est manager to deliver junk code (well they are hired just to say "Yes it can be done" or "Yes it's a brilliant idea" + some tail-shaking to their bosses)

If u wan a place to get ready for retirement, and if you can talk well, and if you have a good brush, and if you do smoke and finally if you wana work in KLCC, your skill in software engineering doesnt matter, go ahead and you'll probably hv a great future.

Conclusion, great company + superb dump manager (in KLCC) = God Bless U

Trust me, this is the geniune (120%) experience of me, no xtra but ony less (only the most important problem here). Thing like bonus, i dun reali giv a shit (IF it's a great place to work) thumbup.gif




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post Mar 5 2007, 09:44 AM

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hahaha...the more posts here, the more meeting's they will have abt this topic
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post Mar 6 2007, 01:21 PM

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My friend is still working in this company. He mention that those manager that got promoted or hired all of them work in this company less than 5 years. So do you wan to work in a company where your boss only have less than 5 years in this company, that do not know much thing? I also wonder why, maybe because those manager are good in one thing - talk(cakap - cakap kosong).
zeeshah24
post Mar 9 2007, 11:25 AM

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Hi,
How much the minimum pay they offer for software engineer/application developer?
Is there any bonus? usual working time?
I got a interview call!!!I have 3 yrs workin exp.
Appriciate ur answers for my Question.

eviltofu
post Mar 9 2007, 06:56 PM

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Had a chat with some exact staff. Said that they hv an issue with deadwood managers. Actually, they are more like clerks - just there to do admin for their staff. that is why doing re-org. plan to bring in outsiders to "execute" the "order 66" and to revamp the org.

dunno how true or not lah... onli hear ppl talk niah.

This post has been edited by eviltofu: Mar 9 2007, 07:01 PM
annabelle83
post Mar 12 2007, 03:06 PM

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yea..i do agree that overall exact is a good co la...but then it is still lacking in mgmnt compared 2 oth bigger cos la...a lot of managers only look at things on the surface side...and moreover the chances of moving forwared and being promoted is slim....it is only a suitable place for gaining some training and basic working experience..
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post Mar 12 2007, 03:57 PM

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I have a few friends working inside there b4. They are ex-exactian. (I do not work inside)

One of them told me that. In Exact your work routine is the same everyday. according to him it is kinda boring. There is less challenge here.

Another senior friend is planing to leave soon. I'm not sure when he will leave, but from his expression, he is not very happy to intro me to go into this company. He told me last year a lot of restructuring inside exact. Some departments are very busy/overloaded. Some are very free and have nothing to do. Things change so much and a lot of people moving out from exact. He suggest that it is not a good idea to stay here long. but if you want to have experience as a stepping stone, it may well worth it.

He is the one who reference me for the interview, one thing it caught me surprise that the interviewer claim VB6 is Object-Oriented blink.gif Do they really know VB6?

Newcomers may find things to learn from the beginning, and of cos, strike your salary expectation as high as you think you worth it.


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post Mar 12 2007, 09:05 PM

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Woo seem like many thing happen in Exact. Seriously i was thinking to join in. But when i send the resume they reject mine as i don't have enough experience. They said at least 3 years experience. That is bad for me as that time i only got 1 year. I never been to a MNC company and i wanted to try as have some nightmare in the private company.

Based on what billytong said, OMG the interviewer said that VB6 is OO? Then what is .NET. But anywhere if got chance i think i also want to try out Exact. Now i also looking for MNC company, is there any?
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post Mar 13 2007, 09:05 PM

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My friend who worked there told me the new manager always mention he buy burger for Bill Gates, typical shoe polisher! Also don't know what is so proud about that.

He also always mentioned alot about Microsoft, but already quit from there. Maybe Microsoft fire him, so no choice but come work there!

hungheykwun
post Mar 14 2007, 11:37 AM

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me last time apply to work there, they wanted 2 years experience sqlserver & vb. i have 2 years experience sql server & vb lar but they say i dont qualify now they wan me also i tak mau them..haha
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post Mar 14 2007, 03:29 PM

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I also apply before but not success. Hahaha
Exact is a good stepping stone for your salary increment( try ask as high as possible when u in).
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post Mar 15 2007, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ Mar 14 2007, 03:29 PM)
I also apply before but not success. Hahaha
Exact is a good stepping stone for your salary increment( try ask as high as possible when u in).
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Hi,
I have applied for software engineer, awaiting for the 2nd round interview...
Howmuch can offer the salary(lebih.. kurang)

startanew
post Mar 15 2007, 10:32 AM

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Your current salary +RM 1000 ^^...
i got through 3rd interview...waiting for my Head Hunter for any status in my application
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post Mar 17 2007, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(sabbai_sabbai @ Mar 13 2007, 09:05 PM)
My friend who worked there told me the new manager always mention he buy burger for Bill Gates, typical shoe polisher! Also don't know what is so proud about that.

He also always mentioned alot about Microsoft, but already quit from there. Maybe Microsoft fire him, so no choice but come work there!
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Ya, 100% shoe polisher. Shame on him. Buy burger only ? May be he not done enought so get fired by Microsoft. If he willing to lick Bill Gates's ass, he should still be in Microsoft now. He need to seriously consider this. But then, He now at the right place to strengthen his shoe polishing skill.
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post Mar 17 2007, 01:54 AM

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I read all replies here, and found out that some bad-news about the new manager. Is he from Microsoft? Besides, does anyone know his background, of course besides the "shoe polisher", as per replies here. tongue.gif
eviltofu
post Mar 17 2007, 08:09 AM

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the fella from andersen con era (waaaay b4 accenture)... then at mic as country mgr for some oth asian region.
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post Mar 17 2007, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ts1 @ Jan 13 2007, 12:45 AM)
exact downsize frm 100 to 50 employees...ppl inside thinking of leaving...u wan to go in?
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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Feb 15 2007, 12:04 PM)
Wrong.

Exact:

High salary, if you requested at starting
Higher salary staff get higher increment
Lower salary staff remain the same and no matter how hard they work, no one know
Gosok kasut the most important thing, manager like you, give you high rating
Lot of politic issue
Structure always change
When come to review, compare senior staff and junior staff (How can compare like that)...
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ex staff?

QUOTE(startanew @ Mar 15 2007, 10:32 AM)
Your current salary +RM 1000 ^^...
i got through 3rd interview...waiting for my Head Hunter for any status in my application
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wat is ur status now?
startanew
post Mar 17 2007, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Drifter @ Mar 17 2007, 04:56 PM)
wat  is ur status now?
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i heard they going to hire me from my head hunter, haven yet finalize the package for me yet..but most likely less than wht i put in my expectaion (+1000)(my hh told me the expectation too high)..
but i already accepted another offer which has better prospect n enviroment..so i wont be going to Exact..

cheers


SUSDrifter
post Mar 18 2007, 10:22 AM

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1k++ is for wat post?
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post Mar 19 2007, 11:01 AM

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wah exact software so bad liau??

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