our copper infrastructure is beyond help la....demmit.
just dont waste anymore more in RnD on this sh!t vdsl vectoring
go on for full fibre......in long terms it save even more
VDSL2 Vectoring by TM, New technology that make copper 100mbps
VDSL2 Vectoring by TM, New technology that make copper 100mbps
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Jul 3 2016, 07:52 PM
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our copper infrastructure is beyond help la....demmit.
just dont waste anymore more in RnD on this sh!t vdsl vectoring go on for full fibre......in long terms it save even more |
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Jul 3 2016, 08:13 PM
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Jul 3 2016, 09:35 PM
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Jul 3 2016, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(mztang52 @ Jul 3 2016, 08:13 PM) Save cost mah. Fiber is cheaper than copper nowThis post has been edited by sHawTY: Jul 3 2016, 10:15 PM |
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Jul 3 2016, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jul 3 2016, 10:35 PM) Long run still waste a lot. They just need to pull the fiber optic cable to the dslam. All those previous phone line from your house to their dslam is fixed, cost saved. If they need to pull the fiber optic cable for everyone in Malaysia with the population of 30 million houses or more, they may facing bankrupt because one feet of fiber optic cable costs RM10.Be4 unifi....streamyx were using adsl which is copper base. Copper means is prone to thief. This reason alone is enough to use fiber |
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Jul 3 2016, 10:34 PM
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Jul 3 2016, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 3 2016, 10:14 PM) QUOTE(mztang52 @ Jul 3 2016, 10:33 PM) They just need to pull the fiber optic cable to the dslam. All those previous phone line from your house to their dslam is fixed, cost saved. If they need to pull the fiber optic cable for everyone in Malaysia with the population of 30 million houses or more, they may facing bankrupt because one feet of fiber optic cable costs RM10. owh2..... |
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Jul 3 2016, 10:54 PM
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Jul 4 2016, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(Eralus @ Jul 4 2016, 03:13 AM) Yes i can confirm TM already start this VDSL or what they call it Yup. We know VDSL uses copper and fiber. VDSL-Very high bit rate digital subscriber line.From what the contractor told me can get speed up to 30mbps for rural area,they now upgrading box in my area,some more they say its combination of fiber and copper,from outsife to tm box is fiber,while box to house using copper My area is kuala langat |
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Jul 4 2016, 07:32 AM
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Jul 4 2016, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jul 3 2016, 07:52 PM) our copper infrastructure is beyond help la....demmit. just dont waste anymore more in RnD on this sh!t vdsl vectoring go on for full fibre......in long terms it save even more QUOTE(mztang52 @ Jul 3 2016, 08:13 PM) QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jul 3 2016, 09:35 PM) Long run still waste a lot. This technology will be used to retain usability of current copper cables throughout Malaysia, Fibre still will be rolled out in major cities and towns. This is for last mile connectivity.Be4 unifi....streamyx were using adsl which is copper base. Copper means is prone to thief. This reason alone is enough to use fiber QUOTE(Eralus @ Jul 4 2016, 02:13 AM) Yes i can confirm TM already start this VDSL or what they call it I believe this one is the old VDSL? VDSL2 Vectoring can go multiply that speed by 10 times. (theoritically)From what the contractor told me can get speed up to 30mbps for rural area,they now upgrading box in my area,some more they say its combination of fiber and copper,from outsife to tm box is fiber,while box to house using copper My area is kuala langat QUOTE(mztang52 @ Jul 4 2016, 07:21 AM) QUOTE(DellMalaysia @ Jul 4 2016, 07:32 AM) We're consumer country, unless we're the one who invent those technology, we might able to use it first hand. In this case no, we just taking the current technology, try it in lab and release it to the consumer. |
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Jul 4 2016, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(hashtag2016 @ Jul 1 2016, 09:05 PM) pls don't dream up for that, unless your area is already been pre-defined as UNIFI area in their "dictionary". Well, I already have Unifi, I hope more people get fibre. But who knows, as you all have pointed out, this country ain't the most... er, sensible, one. |
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Aug 22 2016, 05:17 PM
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vdsl speed is quite badly affected by noise. vdsl vectoring would help but dont expect much when tm puts 1 dslam for >6km of houses...
Fibre to the cabinet was present in countries like singapore since the early 2000s... and their copper was cat5e (seriously) for adsl.... sigh... This post has been edited by miloaisdino: Aug 22 2016, 05:18 PM |
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Dec 13 2016, 06:00 PM
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I wonder why they still opt for this technology when the G.fast is already started to be rolled out in other countries.
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Dec 13 2016, 07:27 PM
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if u are live in condo maybe you can install fibre line by management
if in rural area only may use this technology VDSL2 Vectoring |
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Dec 13 2016, 11:32 PM
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Dec 15 2016, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(mztang52 @ Jul 3 2016, 10:33 PM) They just need to pull the fiber optic cable to the dslam. All those previous phone line from your house to their dslam is fixed, cost saved. If they need to pull the fiber optic cable for everyone in Malaysia with the population of 30 million houses or more, they may facing bankrupt because one feet of fiber optic cable costs RM10. You think it's so easy, bro? By just connecting the DSLAM to fibre backhaul? The network equipments for VDSL and ADSL are totally different. You have to do some equipments change at the last mile too! |
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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Dec 15 2016, 10:43 AM) You think it's so easy, bro? By just connecting the DSLAM to fibre backhaul? The network equipments for VDSL and ADSL are totally different. You have to do some equipments change at the last mile too! Futhermore the price of the new equipment are expensive as all are imported from outside and our ringgit value is dropping. |
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Dec 15 2016, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Dec 15 2016, 10:43 AM) You think it's so easy, bro? By just connecting the DSLAM to fibre backhaul? The network equipments for VDSL and ADSL are totally different. You have to do some equipments change at the last mile too! Yes, I know. Different technology uses different equipments. Takkan lah you drive a BMW with a Toyota engine, right? |
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