I have just chatted with my friend from TM and he revealed that TM is now testing a new technology called VDSL2 Vectoring. With this new technology, existing copper cables throughout nationwide will be capable to reach 100 Mbps. This new technology has already taken place in Europe and US.

VDSL2 Vectoring is noise-canceling technology. It cuts out all of the noise, or interference, among the VDSL2 lines in a bundle. With no interference, every VDSL2 line can operate at peak speeds, as if it were the only line in the bundle.

So we are looking at new Streamyx plans with 30, 50 or even 100Mbps!

No amount of VDSL2 tech can win against our aging copperline infrastructure.

Mostly it's still fine, just noise problem. Last I heard they will retain the existing million of kilometres of copper and their R&D still testing this VDSL2 vectoring still, in lab stage they are able to fetch few hundred mbps over vdsl2-vectoring technology. They're also considering G.Fast as future enhancement (500mbps theoritical speed). However, distance is still a problem, its effective distance only few hundred meters compared to adsl, which is 500m, and 250M for g.fast vdsl.

This video may interest you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLgH990P9co (watch around minute 40 for ADSL updates)
Even our Unifi may have some upgrades soon from GPON (2.5/1.25gbps dl/ul) to TWDMPON (40/10gbps dl/ul)

This post has been edited by nymerine: May 18 2016, 02:21 AM

Depends on our copper quality right? My line attenuation 8.3, hope can get high speed on vdsl2.



http://www.speedguide.net/dsl_speed_calc.php

when this technology will be implant ? 2-3 years more

similar to G.Fast,some Israelis succeed to get 750Mbps over copper using G.Fast.

http://www.sckipio.com/ultrafast-broadband...on-at-ces-2016/

This post has been edited by Xefron: May 18 2016, 08:12 AM

This should be for phase 3 or phase 4 HSBB. Now we're in phase 2. For SUBB I assume.
Phase 1 - 2010 - 2015
Phase 2 - 2015 - 2020
Phase 3 - 2020 - 2025
and so on..

Yes, this is planned for future enhancement for TM after vdsl2-vectoring. Not sure how are they going to deal with distance problem..

the challenge is how to tackle brownfield areas compared to greenfields which are easier.

Well I guess there's a reason it's still in trial in R&D .

The technology has been available for sometime. Like most say the problem is signal attenuation (due to degradation and distance). Also there is high cost involved in upgrading existing DSL equipment. Not to mention the further you are away from the exchange, the weaker your signal gets because it depends on active equipment. You might get better download speeds but upload speeds are still going to be pretty low.

It is a pretty good idea if TM is willing to invest in the new equipments involved.

good news la.. also along the road i drove.. i always see tm tech doing works dunno upgrade the copperline or fix issue..hope in 10 years time my kg can rach 10mb..

Probably for a long term plan they will do that, from the slides, vdsl and adsl requires totally different infrastructure. Our current MSAN cabinet seems no longer needed, those are not cheap either.

Probably laying cables to MSAN cables or government building. It was mention in the video that they did lay cable directly to hospital if they ask, no question asked or cost quoted.

TM used VDSL copper system for unifi for a long time and it won't be streamyx.

so unifi high rise will get this features

Yes only high rise building. But still remember it is copper not fiber. Speed may be different with Fiber internet.

It's always VDSL for high rise for UniFi

This tech intended to replace current streamyx adsl

my place (5 storey apartment) use 100% fiber

Exactly! TM plan to use this VDSL2 Vectoring to replace current outdated ADSL ! Existing copper infrastructure is already there. US did the same thing...

TM NOT TO COVER ALL HIGH BUILDING IN MALAYSIA WITH FTTH SYSTEM .. MORE BUDGET IS NEED TO DO THIS ...
SO IMPLANT NEW VDSL TECHNOLOGY THAT SPEED CAN UP TO 100MBPS UNDER VDSL